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(Partially) fixing the tag system

I'd suggest every variation of male protagonist and female protagonist be merged together. Making it easier to search for stories based on the gender of the character would be amazing.

Ex: Female Protagonist, Female MC, Female Protag, etc. -> Female Protagonist
...

Yes please, do this. I would also appreciate it.
Many times I try to look for stories where the main character is female and I must use at least both Female Protagonist and Female MC separately, to make sure I don't miss what I am looking for...
 
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Game of thrones, Got could be merged under A song of ice and fire. Hotd and house of the dragon might be possible as well. In the end, it's one universe but different timelines, and/or continuities.

Though a tag categorization/hierarchy Would help. Most of the time I think the authors just don't know what to use and just use random stuff. But a structure could focus them a bit.
> 🌐Fandom
>> ⌛Timeline
> 🧑Characters
>> 🖇️Relationships (probably not required)
> Story type (si, oc, AU, dark, humor, crack, etc)
>> Story themes (heroic MC, villain Mc etc) (could be folded in with above )
> Author notes (No beta, Ai generated, Ai beta'd, Ai supported)
> Freeform (aka authors trying to be witty)
As someone with 0 interest in reading anything to do with show canon, please do not merge GoT, HotD, and ASOIAF. All the variations of ASOIAF make perfect sense, but for the love of god not the others.
 
I feel "nier", "neir automata", "nier automata elements", and "nier: automata" can all be merged into just "nier"

Also, what about all the various Warhammer 40k tags?
 
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{yuri harem - lesbian harem} lesbian harem
Honestly, I think it should be yuri harem because that's shorter and easier on mobile.
{kind of a self insert - kind of a self inser - kind off self insert - self insert (I guess?) - self-insert-kinda - sorta self insert - self(?) insert - semi si - semi-si - si is kinda oc - si sorta - si? - sort of si - sorta si thing - non self insert - insert not self - non-self insert - self insert oc - oc/si - oc-si - si oc - si-oc - si/oc - si is an oc - si is basically an oc - si is not an si} si/oc
Also not all self inserts are OCs. Some people insert into canon characters.

Also were possible I think you should try to go for the shortest possible tag.
 
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{mc is in a harem - mc is a harem member - in a harem} mc is a harem member
Your other standardised tags used "protagonist" rather than "MC".
{gender bender mc - gender bending protagonist - gender flipped protagonist - gender swapped protag - genderbent mc - genderbent protagonist - genderbent!mc} genderbending protagonist
As others have noted, needs a split between the "protag is genderswapped (once)" cluster (e.g. Youjo Senki) and the "protag can swap gender" cluster (e.g. Ranma 1/2).
ASOIAF - A song of ice and fire - A song of ice & fire - game of thrones - got - agot.
I think it might be worth maintaining ASOIAF and GOT as separate tags; the writers of the latter did "innovate" substantially.
 
maybe we do need to cut back on the for fun tags a bit tho...

just today I was checking to see if any new non yuri uma musume stories were made (they were some) so I excluded yuri and lesbian tags and added uma musume only to end up reading the first chapter of a story and suspiciously scrolling back to the top to see it was tagged "yonse huri" the whole time.
 
edgerunner
edgerunners
cyberpunk edgerunners
cyberpunk edgerunner and 2077 both
cyberpunk edgerunners au*
cyberpunk au*

*honestly, any tag with a freestanding 'au' in it should just be deleted. They're clutter already covered by using both a 'settingname' and an AU tag.

Edgerunner and 2077 are two different time periods and thus shouldn't be merged.

Honestly, I think it should be yuri harem because that's shorter and easier on mobile.

Also not all self inserts are OCs. Some people insert into Cannon characters.

Also were possible I think you should try to go for the shortest possible tag.

si-oc is a self insert that isn't the author.

Self insert typically means someone from "our" world (In this case the author) getting isekaied into another world, which usualy involves meta knowledge. So a SI-OC would be someone from "our" world, but not the author.


Also canon not cannon. A cannon is a weapon and has nothing to do with something being canonical.
 
warhammer does need a few tags though
warhammer 30K, warhammer 40K, warhammer fantasy, warhammer age of sigmar
I agree, for the people who don't know those all are just completely different things. They might take place in the same verse but in Warhammer the difference between stuff like say 30k and 40k are like day and night
 
I feel "nier", "neir automata", "nier automata elements", and "nier: automata" can all be merged into just "nier"
While Nier and Nier Automata are both games in the same universe, they take place many thousands of years apart. While some of the androids have lived long enough to be in both, many characters have not, also, during the time between the two aliens invade with a machine army (which is still being dealt with in Automata), so a story set in one would be drastically different from the other.
 
Canonised tag suggestions, alongside potential Synonyms to be merged, will be posted in this thread first, pinned in the Suggestions & Bugs subforum, so the userbase has an opportunity (say, 48 hours) to give feedback and object to particular mergers.


General Feedback: Praise the mods!

Seriously, thank you for this. There are a couple different IPs I particularly enjoy whose tag issues I run into frequently and you seem to already have down in your list. Very happy to see them addressed.

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Specific Suggestion
Boku No Hero Academia // My Hero Academia:

mha, bnha

The above two abbreviation tags are pretty common and aren't in the list. 3 pages of bnha, and nine pages of mha. (Lowercase, incidentally, if that matters).

Example Titles:

  • Facimile (MHA AU) uses both 'mha' and 'mha au' as tags.
  • The Defender: BNHA SI uses 'bhna' as a tag.
 
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Quibbling, but I think 'genderbent protagonist' makes it more clear that the protag is, was, or will have their gender changed. Genderbending protagonist feels like genderbending is their superpower.
Seconding this.

there's also "non con" "non-consensual" "non-consent" "rape/non-con elements" "rape" "rape and worse" and probably a bunch more I missed.
I'd agree with the first couple of those, but "rape" does have different connotations (as a tag on this site) than "non-con" and it's various spellings, with "rape" generally referring to more violent actions and "non-con" sometimes being used for actions short of intercourse, consensual non-con/rape play by the characters, and similar.

I think "rape" and "non-con" need to be kept as separate tags.

Genderbending protagonist may as well be merged into trans protagonist. No point splitting hairs, there.
I Strongly disagree with this.

Genderbending refers to characters changing gender, sometimes as part of the story sometimes as an AU element (i.e rule 63 character). Trans character usually means a charactersomething resembling realistic gender issues. This are VERY different things.
And now for actual content- anything to do with alternate universe, IE AU, Alternate universe, divergent timeline, etc
Those tags should get merged
Maybe. There's a good point for keeping AU and it's variants separate from timeline divergence.

Though a tag categorization/hierarchy Would help. Most of the time I think the authors just don't know what to use and just use random stuff. But a structure could focus them a bit.
> 🌐Fandom
>> ⌛Timeline
> 🧑Characters
>> 🖇️Relationships (probably not required)
> Story type (si, oc, AU, dark, humor, crack, etc)
>> Story themes (heroic MC, villain Mc etc) (could be folded in with above )
> Author notes (No beta, Ai generated, Ai beta'd, Ai supported)
> Freeform (aka authors trying to be witty)
This would be nice but probably require a lot more work on the back end than QQ is going to be able to handle any time soon.


Will look into maybe adding 'rape', 'sexual assault', and other stuff like that to that merge list.
Bad idea.
As noted above, while they may legally be the same thing they are not used with the same meaning as tags.
 
I think "rape" and "non-con" need to be kept as separate tags.

I'm def with The Unicorn on this one. There's a big difference in connotation here when these are used. Rape tags almost always mean straight up violent rape, whereas non-con in my experience usually means things like mind control (both heavy and mild), 'to the victor goes the spoils' type of abilities, or similar.

While from a technically accurate standpoint 'rape' and 'non-consensual sex' are essentially the same, in a tags context the tone of stories tagged as such are often wildly different. The former is almost always an indicator of dark or violent stories, whereas the latter tends to be used in lighter, more… hmm, we'll call them 'morally hand-waved' stories.

The various "non-con" tags should probably be merged, but "consensual non-con" and "rape" should stay separate from those, I think.
 
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How do you all think we should handle reincarnation vs drop in Isekai? Honestly, this can be a bit tricky tbh.
 
I dunno of this is exactly what you're asking for, so apologies in advance:

I think there might be a case for merging all of the various AI tags into maybe two? Say, AI Art and AI Writing or something. I've noticed a few different examples of the former; stuff like 'AI art, AI images' and for the latter it definitely feels like 'AI assisted' and 'AI as a beta' are doing the same thing. I've also seen one or two examples of 'LLM' being used.

Aside from those, there are a number of tags using a hash tag for some reason. Like, '#action' or whatever, which means if you search 'action' they don't show up. Is there a way to merge those into the actual tags, or make it so the hash tag gets ignored?
 
Please this would be phenomenal my tag filter is huge and stuff still slips through. I wish y'all the best on wrangling the taggers lol. Maybe a simple tag for gay tags could be "Lgbt('tag')"?
gay
gaylor
gay_porn
yaoi/gay
gay_shota
gay_stuff
gay_sex
gay_protagonist
yuri
toxic_yuri
yuri_goodness
futa/yuri
yuri_kuma
yurification
lesbian
lesbian_ahoy!
lesbian_bdsm
lesbian _mc
bi_curious
bi-protagonist
bi_protagonist
bi_sexual
bisexual_mc
bisexual_content
bisexual_male
it's_a_gundam!
casual_bisexuality
bisexuality
shota
shota_mc
shota_protagonist
femmc
fempov
femslash
femmecest
femmboi
femboy
femboys
femboy_mc
femboy_content
futadom
futasub
futa_on_futa
futa
futa_protagonist
futa_rape
futanari
female_si
femaleprotaganist
female_on_female
gender_bender_mc
genderbent_mc
genderbent_si
feminine_mc
female_protagonist
yuri_and_het
saga_of_tanya_the_evil
tanya_degurechaff
youjo_senki
bisexual_main_character
bisexual_characters
 
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How do you all think we should handle reincarnation vs drop in Isekai? Honestly, this can be a bit tricky tbh.
Those are definitely separate, while the two types of stories share many aspects they are quite distinct and it should be possible to search for one or the other.

I think there might be a case for merging all of the various AI tags into maybe two? Say, AI Art and AI Writing or something.
I disagree. There is a huge difference between "here's a story I had an AI write with a few prompts" and "I had an AI help with a couple of elements in this story".

That said, you're right we could probably merge some of the tags, it's just going to be very controversial how.
 
+laughs at only two posters commenting about harem tags+
Ah, QQ.

But I still gotta ask, why differentiate harem eventually, harem posible, harem likely?
 
To be fair, not every version of Fate is the same.

A Grand Order scenario isn't the same as one set in Fate Stay
Making it so a writer would have to tag the overarching theme first, and then providing the opportunity for additional, subtheme specific tags, could be an idea. Of course, that would likely lead to fics having more tags than they do now, but would allow readers to both broaden and narrow their searches to find the content they actually want to read.
 
There's a lot of Legend of Zelda tags, and I think a lot of other series where there's a ton of really distinct entries have the same problem where some tags are entry-specific but other's aren't, like Ocarina of Time as opposed to the entire series.
 
That said, you're right we could probably merge some of the tags, it's just going to be very controversial how.

Yeah I'm totally willing to be wrong about some examples, it's more of a general vibe based on reading stuff and some author comments I've seen. I've definitely seen authors talking about having to fix prompted content where they're using 'AI as a beta' as their only related tag, so maybe that's just a case of improper tag use? I dunno.
 
i found Yu-Gi-Oh tags to be quite confusing, if you could sort that out I would be grateful
 

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