Mr Zoat
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So it's stuck here, and doesn't want to be, and even though the smart thing to do would be to pretend to be nice so that we would take it away, it attacked us. So… Maybe it knows that it can't get away? And it's just taking a shot because that's all it can do
If true they are in a lot of trouble, because only the innocent can defeat justice.
'sheathe'The naginata smashes through the wall behind me and I don't wait, I just run out, following the naginata. Outside, it's still raining, and my weapon-. It didn't even go that far. That's weird. I sheath my kama, pick up my naginata, and look around very carefully in case my house has caught up with me again.
I think that's the opposite of what its plan is. Iname mentions that it could have pretended to be nice so that they'd take it with, and yet instead it attacked immediately. She reckons that it is somehow trapped on this planet so completely that it can't escape even with their help.Thanks for posting this clip as this seems like what this thing's whole plan is.
Iname is insane, I wouldn't take anything she says with a pinch of salt.I think that's the opposite of what its plan is. Iname mentions that it could have pretended to be nice so that they'd take it with, and yet instead it attacked immediately. She reckons that it is somehow trapped on this planet so completely that it can't escape even with their help.
Iname is insane, I wouldn't take anything she says with a pinch of salt.
The problem with that idea is that her arguments were not sound, because they were based entirely around the assumption that whatever is doing this would want to leave.Being insane does not automatically equal being stupid. Besides, questionnable sanity aside, her arguments were sound, and she was right about the entity lying to her.
Besides, there's plenty of other characters in this story who are insane too, yet still somehow manage to be smart. Even a broken clock can be right twice a day.
She may have thought that it would want to leave because it seems like there's no point in staying.The problem with that idea is that her arguments were not sound, because they were based entirely around the assumption that whatever is doing this would want to leave.
And it was trying to scare me. Trying to make me feel bad about the things it thinks I shouldn't have done. But… Why? And why not on Earth? Is it stuck here? That's the only thing that seems to make sense… But… It should be able to go into the Dream, shouldn't it? Or whatever version of Hell exists here, and get to Earth that way? So it is stuck here?
So it's stuck here, and doesn't want to be, and even though the smart thing to do would be to pretend to be nice so that we would take it away, it attacked us. So… Maybe it knows that it can't get away? And it's just taking a shot because that's all it can do
No, she can't see any reason to stay.She may have thought that it would want to leave because it seems like there's no point in staying.
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So far it hasn't really done or said anything that points to it wanting anything else except torturing people, so her thinking that it doesn't have anything else isn't farfetched.No, she can't see any reason to stay.
That doesn't mean it doesn't have one.
The problem with that idea is that her arguments were not sound, because they were based entirely around the assumption that whatever is doing this would want to leave.
No, she can't see any reason to stay.
That doesn't mean it doesn't have one.
Iname is trying to figure things out, but not strongly committed to her conclusions. If new evidence arrives, she'll update her conclusions on the entity. Personally I lik a character willing to engage in some theorizing. Even if she's wrong, she's at least got a model she can test the entity's future behavior against.
It's funny that the story had to arbitrarily turn off her powers just to make things interesting. Flash level speed with an a killer's mentality is pretty terrifying. She even confirmed that she can vibrate through solid objects just like the Flash. There's a lot of situations where she just flat out wins most fights.
Now you've got me thinking these two working together each thinking they can use the other before getting away scot-free. Honestly speaking, I hope Paul is able to resolve at least one of them in the near future, as I think they can each provide a unique challenge based on their resources and knowledge bases.Had a little thought about the angry Anarky and the murderous Nylor Truggs tonight.
'fact'And that's before we get into the face that some sort of radioactive green goo has bubbled up from the lower levels.
'reacts'So either there's a material here that react to raw magic by becoming radioactive
'Sandro's'The lights in Sandor's eye sockets go out, and his bones collapse ligamentlessly to the floor.
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Yeah, there's not exactly a lot of survivors in the games, either. In fact, the player character (and any alternate protagonists and Co-op partners) are the only persons on Phobos and Deimos who aren't demons or zombies. Makes for acceptable targets, if nothing else.10th December 2022
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"None of 'em?"
Corporal Taggart doesn't look surprised or upset, but there is a little… Disappointment, in his expression.
Well, that's not good. That's most likely a senior demon, such as the Cyberdemon boss.I shake my head. "My scans aren't reliable around this amount of raw magic, but… No. As far as I can tell, there are no survivors. Sandro?"
"I do have a surfeit of dark energy to work with, but other beings are making use of it as well."
And more importantly, how many would be carrying guns? Because I doubt a scientist will be nearly the same threat as a marine in heavy combat armour."Necromancers?"
"That's difficult to say. Technically speaking, commanding a demon to possess a corpse is not necromancy. Corporal Taggart, were you given any idea of how many people were working here?"
I mean, it's not a large moon, and probably not a large base.He shrugs. "Couple thousand. Only about two hundred marines."
Endymion frowns. "The entirety of Deimos has only two hundred soldiers?"
I got the feeling those in charge didn't expect the denizens of hell to react to what they were doing. A lot of them may not even have known that the 'alternate dimension' they were studying was populated."Yeah? Honestly, it always sounded like way too many to me. Two hundred jarheads just to keep a thousand engineers and scientists in line? What were the brass expecting?"
Endymion looks at the corpse of an invisible pinkie which he just finished vivisecting with his sword. "Demons?"
That might make more sense. Remote observation of local movements within Hell via drone overflight could have been a thing."The two hundred wasn't anything like enough, that's my point. It's too many for policing and not enough to stop an invasion."
Mazikeen nods. "He's right. Was the number increased recently? Perhaps your superiors got an inkling that someone wasn't right,"
If the timelines are anything to go by, Earth is having its own demon problems right now.He rolls his eyes at her. "Sure. I'll just call up the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and ask, shall I?"
Endymion frowns. "You mean to say that the government of Earth hasn't been informed?"
Usually not a thing in most sci-fi settings that haven't had a cataclysmic war that united Earth in its backstory. Though it's likely to be formed in the wake of this debacle."I don't think they missed a moon going-." Corporal Taggart frowns in bewilderment. "What d'yah mean 'the government of Earth'? Like… A single government?"
Endymion sighs, looking down for a moment. "No, I suppose that would have been too much to hope for."
That sounds like a rather different sort of Doom WAD. And a very bad time for everyone on the receiving end."America's got the only space program worth talkin' about. But, like I said, a moon's gone missing. Anyone with a space telescope's gunna see it, an' everyone knows that the U.S. is the only country with anything on Deimos. We're the first place anyone's gunna go lookin' for an answer." He thinks for a moment, looking up at the ceiling of the refinery we're standing in. "Mars Command got an update from the platoon they sent, but those chumps all died without sending anything back beyond, you know, 'contact' and 'help help it's claws are up my ass'."
'Hurt floors' are a common feature of Doom levels, be it radioactive goo, boiling blood or crusted-over lava. Usually overcome by hazard suits or god-mode.I look around. Parts of the refinery have the dull brown or grey colour of standard U.A.C. wall panels, but here's a lot of bare stone walls, as well as areas that appear to have been… 'Demonified', with the stone becoming unnaturally smooth and… 'Growing' leering demonic faces. And that's before we get into the fact that some sort of radioactive green goo has bubbled up from the lower levels. It's not a problem for any of us at the moment, but… It's confusing. There isn't a lot of radioactive material on Deimos -at least, there isn't supposed to be- and magic doesn't tend to make things emit gamma radiation. There can be plenty of other exotic results from exposing things to raw magic, but normal ionising radiation? No.
More likely malicious action by demons. They never seem to take damage from the hurt floors, after all.So either there's a material here that react to raw magic by becoming radioactive -which is pretty darn interesting- or the demons just brought a load of highly radioactive liquid here for some reason. Or the humans did, I guess, but that makes even less sense. I could see them bringing radioactive metal for a power plant, but they'd have every reason to make sure that radioactive liquid didn't escape. And humans usually make things fail safe rather than fail deadly, so I doubt that it's simple neglect…
Hopefully after directing some fire at the ground when they see the demons...Endymion thinks for a moment. "When will Mars send reinforcements to Phobos?"
"Ah… They probably won't. There aren't all that many marines up here total. When no one reports back, they'll probably call in a patrol ship. The ship will do a flyby, then they'll send in more marines. Maybe some armour. And they'll have ships so they can just lift off before they get overrun."
So it might be a few"That's a reasonable tactic."
"Problem is, we don't keep ships near Mars, 'cause… Why would we? There's some checking out potential mining sites out-system and some around Earth. Government's not gunna wanna move the ones near Earth, which is probably a good call."
All the local demons. Nothing to stop more from coming through portals. Even if you closed the last one with a delayed nuke or something, they'd just force them open from the Hell side now that it's known they can open them.I nod. "Earth's about as far from Mars as it gets right now. Any ships would take a long time to get here, ignoring the fuel costs."
Corporal Taggart nods. "Right, an' the outer system ships ain't exactly close neither. Probably gunna need a few months t' get there."
Endymion looks puzzled. "But all of the demons are slain."
And with Deimos in Hell proper, they might well be able to serve as a waypoint for Demon forces headed to Phobos or Earth.Mazikeen shakes her head. "They were researching teleportation. We should not assume that the forces of Hell cannot take advantage of any teleportation stations they captured here, or that we missed. Besides, how would Mars know without sending another of their limited quantity of spacecraft?"
Well, that's not good. Time to go speed-run the Cyberdemon. Watch out for rockets!There's a quiet thud as Sandro allows the Baron of Hell we found here to collapse to the ground. "Learn anything?"
"Apparently they were using material extracted from here for some sort of ritual." He strolls closer. "It didn't know what. Oh, and it seems that the 'Eldest' is present on Deimos at the moment, leading the ritual."
And a little poking around might net you plasma guns. No BFG9000 until Episode 3, sadly."Alright. Did it say where?"
He looks at the wall. "No, but given the clear distinction between the two styles of architecture, I don't imagine it will be hard to locate the site. Corporal Taggart, I have a question."
Ha! Amusing that the fantasy-world liche notices that little mainstay of the shooter genre..."Shoot."
"Why are there explosive barrels located in just about every structure we have entered? That would seem like a curious choice for a military structure."
If nothing else, they serve as useful fragmentation grenades. One good shot with a hitscan weapon like the railguns..."No fuckin' clue. I was just here for a Court Martial, remember? They didn't explain the niceties of their interior design scheme."
"Ah. No, I suppose that's reasonable. I just hope that we have time to-."
...Oh, that's just the worst thing that could have happened.
I'd say the Cyberdemon just let lose some kind of anti-magical spell across Deimos. Given that the Rings are technically supernatural, Mazikeen relies a lot on magical power and Sandro is, well, an animate skeleton...Mazikeen doubles over, clutching her mask.
The lights in Sandor's eye sockets go out, and his bones collapse ligamentlessly to the floor.
Someone just turned your god-mode off. Let's hope you weren't at too high a difficulty level before.Endymion shakes his head as if dazed, but appears otherwise unimpeded.
Corporal Taggart looks at us each in turn. "The fuck?"
Seems to be any 'supernatural' technology. I assume the flight system is more 'small jump-jets' than 'anti-gravity motor unit'."I guess that was the ritual." I trigger my armour's flight system, and… Yes, that's still working. Crumbler gauntlets? Ah, no, those aren't. That seems… Arbitrary, but I suppose that's how weird magic rituals go when you don't understand their operating principles. "Corporal, did you leave that backpack where you found it?"
Might want to grab more backpacks, you'll need all the ammo you can carry."Yeah? Why?"
"We're going to need something to put Sandro in, just in case that's something that he can recover from. Mazikeen?"
Probably a good idea to also learn how to use the local medical kits."Yes. Yes."
"I've got a conventional painkiller if you need it. Otherwise…" I walk over to where one of the demon zombies dropped his shotgun. "I've got mundane conventional weapons. Do you know how to use them?"
One thing the games kind of gloss over for everything except the Super Shotgun: Reloading. No magazines, no animations, just a feed from ammo supply straight into weapons... Until you run out of ammo.She snatches it from me, picks up a box of shotgun shells that someone from U.A.C. dropped on the floor at some point, and then starts sliding shells into the magazine tube.
"Good show. Endymion?"
And now it descends into a basic co-op game. Except one player is sticking with melee weapons only (with a sword rather than brass knuckles or chainsaw, at least...)"In my first life, I used magic and the sword. Few people in Japan carry guns. I'll manage better with my sword."
"Okay. Corporal, you take the lead. It looks like we're doing this the conventional way."
I believe it should be the invasion of Earth; as following the normal timeline Doom Guy fights through Phobos in Episode 1, then through Deimos above Hell in Episode 2 to defeat the Cyberdemon, then across the plains of Hell in Episode 3 to defeat the Spider Mastermind.I wonder what the ritual the demons did is for? I'm not very familiar with Doom so I don't know if it's a canon thing, but the group just arrived. I doubt the ritual was specifically aimed towards them to shut off their out-of-context abilities.
'something'?Mazikeen nods. "He's right. Was the number increased recently? Perhaps your superiors got an inkling that someone wasn't right,"
So an almost court marshaled. marine, a consort of Lucifer, a sword weilding magical man, and a partally powered orange latern took a trek across a moon to rescue an redeemed demon while carrying an unconscious lich with them.......Okay. Corporal, you take the lead. It looks like we're doing this the conventional way.
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And that's why you got a 'like' from me.Good call, whoever it was that predicted this would happen near the start of this episode.