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Questionable Questing

Bob is bob
Bob is bob
I'm eating this up for Quest sequel imagination fuel
Andy333
Andy333
Building up rival power bases is something everyone does in the game of thrones. lol. But yeah Jon does love Robert, you can definitely feel it despite how strained it gets. He's like an old cranky father whose son is gay. He still loves him, he just can't possibly understand that lifestyle choice or be entirely okay with it.
Andy333
Andy333
But if you want sequel bait, Jon having a son who either really drinks the kool aid of this new age of degeneracy is evil, the Seven is the way, and doesn't having his father's personal relationship with Robert to temper him, could make for an interesting villain. Or if you want to go the opposite and have him fall into the degeneracy, again some nice drama and political fallout either way.
Andy333
Andy333
Maybe have some of the remenets of that Septon rebellion link up in the Vale and while not receive any official patronage, they do get protection and the time to really fester into an even bigger problem in the future.
Bob is bob
Bob is bob
So. You never read that time Lyanna fucked and imprgnated Lysa with a kid in revenge for John not liking her trying to mind control him to have a daddy fetish with Lysa
Andy333
Andy333
Well, I wasn't going to bring up the elephant in the room that he was getting cucked. I was going with the pure assumption that sometimes in the future he will get a son, that could act as a good source of drama, and that the exact parentage of that son wouldn't matter so much as how Jon raises him.
Andy333
Andy333
But now that you mentioned it, a wannabe inquisitor who's desperately fighting back against the degeneracy, but is hiding the world's worst case of a daddy and leather fetish is incredibly funny now that I think about it. :V
Andy333
Andy333
Reminds me of Ernst Rohm.
Bob is bob
Bob is bob
Jon doesn't care that one of his son's was fathered by a femboy whore who looked like a prettier Balish and the other was from Lyanna. And the lads don't either. Lyanna's kid hasn't had narrative work done but he's a staunch Sevenist and Valeman

Daddy as in being a Daddy to a submissive girl
Bob is bob
Bob is bob
You comparing my characters to Nazis is not flattering:V
Andy333
Andy333
The guy I was imagining was a villain, and hey a reminder that Westeros like most monarchy's is a firm believer In a heir and a spare so you could easily have another boy, and I was talking about how despite being a Nazi, Ernst Rohn was a flaming homosexual. As in multiple people mentioned it, and the only reason it took so long for him to get killed was because he was a personal friend to Hitler.
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Bob is bob
Hitler kill him?
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Bob is bob
And lime actual close friends?
Andy333
Andy333
Yeah, they were pretty close friends for awhile, of course until they had a pretty nasty falling out which eventually led to his death. Not in a gay way, they were bro's. And yes Hitler did kill him, but he didn't want to.
Andy333
Andy333
But basically, very long history lesson short. When the Nazi's first showed up, they were a very fringe and fanatical organization with a lot of zany characters. And when I say zany, I mean batshit insane because most normal well adjusted people don't join fringe radical political parties like this. And after a coup failed miserably, which was caused by the communist trying one themselves beforehand and also failing.
Andy333
Andy333
Hitler decided to win the election to become Chancellor the democratic way, and as he amassed more power and started making deals with the traditional Prussian Military elite and various business groups, started appealing more towards the mainstream of Germany society, he couldn't have his zany friends saying all the crazy shit and doing all the crazy stuff they had been doing.
Andy333
Andy333
Ernst Rohn, who was a war hero and basically the commander of the proto gang/army of the Nazi movement which would eventually over time evolve into the SS, and who he also did a lot of organizing, recruiting, and brainstorming for the future of it and thus had a significant influence over, started publicly disagreeing with the direction Hitler was taking the party and basically saying he was selling out.
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Bob is bob
What was the falling out?
Andy333
Andy333
Hitler couldn't tolerate that and was already getting a lot of flack from not just his mainstream supporters who thought of Ernst as a thug, but his old supporters like Goring who thought he was too unstable to keep around. So eventually came the night of long knives, which was when Hitler prudged his party not just of traitors but people like Ernest who couldn't be trusted.
Andy333
Andy333
But really the big falling out was over the Prussian elite and the direction the SS was headed. Basically Hitler and a lot of other Germans believed that after the disaster that was World War 1, the Prussian Elites weren't competent and couldn't be trusted, and that Germany needed a brand new army that was separate and free from their influence.
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