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  1. Generating non slop ai writing

    I say, quote both of your comments there, a bigger chance for some constructive advises and the threads are similar enough. Honestly, I was going to quote you there, but it's up to you.

  2. Generating non slop ai writing

    So, what are the tips? Good start would be define what this means.

  3. What does "AI Assisted" even mean?

    Anything beyond spell checkers, imo. There's no clear-cut divide, more like spectrum and arbitrary points on this spectrum that people consider to be their line, when the thing stops being human writing. AI assisted is vibe based tag and it depends on the author what it means because of how...

  4. People are using AI but not disclosing it. How do you detect it ?

    I agree that it's why "punishment for not tagging" cannot work, because there's no reliable method of detection without fail-positives. On the individual level, if someone would use such AI detection for filtering, it can work. It only has to be reliable enough. I get the fear over potential...

  5. People are using AI but not disclosing it. How do you detect it ?

    My opinion is this: the thread-creator doesn't own the thread because they started it. The first post is just a starting point and every person that participate is as much co-owner. The thread-creator shouldn't be able to close the thread because they disagree with the direction or because they...

  6. People are using AI but not disclosing it. How do you detect it ?

    I don't think that it matter and it shouldn't matter, imho, but I don't know what's the convention here. The thread is about AI detection and that people don't tag it. Claims that it is impossible to detect AI, or why it is undesirable to tag or demand tagging, are on the topic. The uncivility...

  7. People are using AI but not disclosing it. How do you detect it ?

    What? Dude, you don't have to engage in the thread, nobody is forcing you. I hate this: "I'm not enjoying the conversation so nobody else can talk." I will never understand it.

  8. People are using AI but not disclosing it. How do you detect it ?

    Oh, this is a very good example to show my point! I don't remember if this was you personally, but some comments were saying, "I don't care if authors are harassed or get nasty comments due to use of AI." I don't like the attitude, and my point is: what if threads about AI got that kind of...

  9. People are using AI but not disclosing it. How do you detect it ?

    The AI use was very noticable when I read, so when I heard about the controversy "the author said he uses AI", I was like: "duh? Isn't that obvious?" I like the story, I think it is thought out and the writing is okay, the AI most likely used to rewrite or polish author's drafts. The AI-style...

  10. People are using AI but not disclosing it. How do you detect it ?

    It wasn't about that at all. I think that's unfair to characterize everyone who wants AI tagging as such. I do think there's real danger of witch hunts and we shouldn't dismiss it but lets not go in the other extreme and imply that everyone who wishes for AI tagging wants to engage in the...

  11. People are using AI but not disclosing it. How do you detect it ?

    People's feeling are greatly influenced by what they think they should feel or what they expect, or what's the widespread opinion. That's why people will say that the cheap wine served them in expensive bottle tastes good. Out feelings aren't as objective as one may think. With AI I've heard...

  12. People are using AI but not disclosing it. How do you detect it ?

    I don't consider AI to be plagiarism, so here we differ. Yes, because the papers are explicitly meant to test your abilities, knowledge, and understanding. A little bit. It's literally pretentious and deceitful but also harmless. I have bigger problem with (undisclosed) ghost writers since...

  13. People are using AI but not disclosing it. How do you detect it ?

    Thanks, and hello to you too. I do feel that deepfakes are different matter. Honestly, I don't know. The unethical sounds like a strong word, especially in the context free-of-charge fanfiction. Maybe for authors asking for donations? It does feel more apt in such case, imo.

  14. People are using AI but not disclosing it. How do you detect it ?

    Does most people think that undisclosed AI use is unethical? I doubt, honestly. I wonder what examples of witch hunts over AI are there. * Another idea: "repository of human-made fiction", it can be off-site, likely with voting how much people think a fic is pure. It wouldn't allow for simple...

  15. People are using AI but not disclosing it. How do you detect it ?

    Sidenote: it's irritating how many threads about AI there's already, and that they all converge. It looks like the same conversation is in multiple places and it gets disjointed. I have pretty important question: how many people care about AI in writing? Do we have some inkling? The labeled...

  16. People are using AI but not disclosing it. How do you detect it ?

    Okay. It's just that from the general tone it sounded more like "I don't care because I agree they deserve it" than simple "I don't care". Just explaining my take. No smoke. At the start of ChatGPT craze I've read a short story "Writer looks for readers" or similar title. The premise was...

  17. People are using AI but not disclosing it. How do you detect it ?

    You should joke completely, since both people using and not-using AI would have to just transcribe the words from the screen onto paper. Oh, and I'm sure there's an AI for this.

  18. People are using AI but not disclosing it. How do you detect it ?

    That likely means that problem is unsolvable or nobody is willing to solve it. I would be for trying non-invasive proposals, but it's unlikely they will work. The problem may solve itself or get worse, if the LLMs' writing will get more human-like. Is LLMs writing getting better or did it hit...

  19. People are using AI but not disclosing it. How do you detect it ?

    I think you ignore some posts because they align with what you think. The "hostile attacks" is response to calling people using AI to write "trash", "lazy", "Karens" etc. True or not, it is a hostile attack. Lets not get offended about calling spade a spade. Witch hunts is justified worry...

  20. People are using AI but not disclosing it. How do you detect it ?

    Yes, it's an AI-neutral thread. No, if you want an anti-AI thread, name it explicitly so. I'm not going to adjust to some unstated, assumed rules like "only negative opinions about AI use are acceptable". The thread is called: "People are using AI but not disclosing it. How do you detect it ?"...
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