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In this case, I'm betting it's mainly honey and garlic's anti-inflammatory properties at work. Oh, don't get me wrong, good nutrition is good nutrition, but only the milk is lacking in actual chemical boosters.

Also... milk has a lot of sugar, itself. Lactose and galactose break down into glucose like everything else.

But, yeah, honey's doing the heavy lifting as a soothing agent, and garlic for its effects on the circulatory system. Your grandmother's recipe is actual medicine. At least as a symptom reliever.
 
TanaNari said:
In this case, I'm betting it's mainly honey and garlic's anti-inflammatory properties at work. Oh, don't get me wrong, good nutrition is good nutrition, but only the milk is lacking in actual chemical boosters.

Also... milk has a lot of sugar, itself. Lactose and galactose break down into glucose like everything else.

But, yeah, honey's doing the heavy lifting as a soothing agent, and garlic for its effects on the circulatory system. Your grandmother's recipe is actual medicine. At least as a symptom reliever.
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It's the kind of thing that left me staring into a wall for a while and considering all the things. Also, most of the cold medicine available right now are actually simply symptom relievers as well as including some boosters like Vit C as well, allowing one's immune system to do their work, so there's that :V

Sure, one may be discounting the value of milk just a little bit, but for a sick person that probably haven't managed to get proper nutrition in days due to their illness, the value of that is incalculable. So yes, it may not have the immediate effects like the honey or garlic does, but I dare say it's still an invaluable ingredient in this medicine when one considers the long term of ensuing the patients survival and well being.

Overall, I may be no nutritionist, but I do believe this mixture is, at the very least, not detrimental to one's overall health. Most likely, it's purely beneficial.

Also, my apologies if my post seems kind of rambling. I am still possessing of a high fever and still somewhat ill, even if I feel quite well at the moment.

There's also this thing about how every bit of traditional medicine that worked became, well, actual well researched medicine, with dozens if not hundreds of medicinal paper published about it. Then again, if you think about it, why take an engineered pill that purports to replicate the health benefits of ingesting various natural medicinal substances, when you could just ingest the actual ingredients the research was based on? Like, why eat garlic extract in pill form when you could just add a clove or two into whatever meal you are cooking right now?

Overall, thank you for acknowledging Gram's Ancient Wisdom. I am no stranger to dietary supplements and healing by whatever it is in the packet the apothecary has given me, as the doctor prescribed, but still, this one hits kind of different.

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if you think this post is stupid, please take into the account I have been really sick for round the last week. I urge you to consider that my brain ain't working properly before you call me [CENSORED]
 
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Guardian Box said:
Also, most of the cold medicine available right now are actually simply symptom relievers
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I'm aware. That's why I acknowledge that your grandma's recipe is actual medicine, because if aspirin counts, so does this.

As opposed to chicken broth, which is useful in that it's easy to keep down, but it doesn't have medicinal properties.

Guardian Box said:
Overall, I may be no nutritionist, but I do believe this mixture is, at the very least, not detrimental to one's overall health. Most likely, it's purely beneficial.
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Technically you can reach dangerous points with garlic- it is an anticoagulant, none of those are 100% safe. But it's only shown problems in people who eat four or more cloves a day.

Also, apparently can mess with birth control medications.

And your grandma's recipe is very heavy on the sugars. With all the long-term health risks of any other high sugar diet- honey will make you diabetic just as easily as high fructose corn syrup.

But overall, I can't see it being a problem in small amounts. If you were one of the unlucky few with garlic or honey allergies, I'm sure you'd know by now.

Guardian Box said:
Like, why eat garlic extract in pill form when you could just add a clove or two into whatever meal you are cooking right now?
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Yeah, those are even worse. Garlic supplements are more concentrated than the cloves. Easy to go overboard without realizing you're doing so.


Guardian Box said:
but I dare say it's still an invaluable ingredient in this medicine when one considers the long term of ensuing the patients survival and well being.
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Oh, it has immediate benefits as well. Milk serves as a solvent, so the rest of the mix is delivered as a fluid, rather than having to choke down syrup. Also, milk is good at masking the taste of other chemicals, especially bitter ones (re: coffee). In this case? Mainly the garlic... even us Italians don't eat garlic plain.

Guardian Box said:
I urge you to consider that my brain ain't working properly before you call me [CENSORED]
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I'm not calling you anything. I'm just saying your grandmother's recipe makes perfect sense and all logic suggests it should work great for reducing cold and flu symptoms.

It's when people start trying to claim their spice rack contains the cure to cancer that I break out the rude commentary.
 
Guardian Box said:
The more I thought about it, the more sense it actually made.

It's a simple combination of milk, honey and garlic.

In this instance I poured a liter of milk (the over 3% fat one in this case) into a pot, added like 3 table spoons of honey, and about 4 or 5 minced cloves of garlic. Then you just simply keep cooking to warm the concotion up on low heat, but not getting it high enough it actually boils. The exact proportions aren't all that important I think.

Milk has basically all the nutrients already. Honey is high in sugars your body needs, especially if you are sick and can't really eat other things if your appetite is down due to sickness, and it's quite healthier than regular sugar as well. Garlic is, well, it's already super-healthy already, rich with health boosting vitamins (like C) and whatnot.

As for the taste, I don't know how it works, but the overall result is just mild and comfy. You get the garlicky aftertaste to be sure, but at the moment of drinking it is really understated, so I think even someone who usually doesn't like the taste of garlic could enjoy it. All of it is also warm and sweet, so it goes down really well.

I fail to see the downside to this thing.
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Going to give that a try. Throat is acting up recently, so it might be worth a shot.
 
TanaNari said:
I'm not calling you anything. I'm just saying your grandmother's recipe makes perfect sense and all logic suggests it should work great for reducing cold and flu symptoms.
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Yeah, sorry about that. Had a good night's sleep and the fever's down a bit now, so I'm more rational and coherent now.

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Going to give that a try. Throat is acting up recently, so it might be worth a shot.
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Now that I think about it, it would probably be best to double the honey and halve the garlic for better taste rather than use the dosages I've provided earlier. I mean, it's not an exact science, so do whatever you want, but it's just a suggestion.
 
Guardian Box said:
Now that I think about it, it would probably be best to double the honey and halve the garlic for better taste rather than use the dosages I've provided earlier. I mean, it's not an exact science, so do whatever you want, but it's just a suggestion.
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Bought some garlic and honey today, and gave it a try, and, truth be told, it's actually pretty good.

I went with a liter of milk (though I used 1.5% fat variety instead of 3.5), four cloves of garlic, and four or five tablespoons of honey. And the garlic isn't that present, it's just a slight aftertaste, rather than a punch in the mouth, safe the odd garlic chunk swimming in there.
 
ShogunTrooper said:
Bought some garlic and honey today, and gave it a try, and, truth be told, it's actually pretty good.

I went with a liter of milk (though I used 1.5% fat variety instead of 3.5), four cloves of garlic, and four or five tablespoons of honey. And the garlic isn't that present, it's just a slight aftertaste, rather than a punch in the mouth, safe the odd garlic chunk swimming in there.
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I know right? :V

In the absolute worst case scenario, you just ate some food. As far as remedies go, I think this one just works all around.
 
I am looking for a book but I forgot the title.

I checked it out from a public library between 2013 and 2019. It was a young adult dystopia science fiction story.

The protagonist had telekinetic powers and she was a teenager. It has some very vivid descriptions wjere she "felt" her surrounding environment.

The society deemed emotion as a "disease", so emotions were supressed. I think they used drugs for that, but details are hazy. Also humanity was forced underground into bunkers because of "nuclear war" , but it was revealed that it was a lie made by the rich to push people into underground bunkers.

For some reason the protagonist could still feel emotions. She eventaully left her bunker and joined a rebellion against the evil government.

One of the other characters was a boy who could see the future, amd he was captured and lobotomized by the government at some point.

The story happened a hundred or so years in the future.

People with superpowers started to appear in-universe, but they were new and kept secret by the government. There was a healer, someone with lightning blasts, and a few other things.

Also I remember that the government had surveillance satellites that used infrared cameras to stop people on the surface who shouldn't be there. It was a minor plot point that the rebellion had a special harness thay could somehow make people invisible to infrared cameras

I did some digging, and the series was NOT the Delirium series by Lauren Oliver.

The aspect of "government bans emotion" matches, but it has a lack of telekinetic powers.

https://www.goodreads.com/series/52834-delirium
 
Autocorruptor said:
I am looking for a book but I forgot the title.

I checked it out from a public library between 2013 and 2019. It was a young adult dystopia science fiction story.

The protagonist had telekinetic powers and she was a teenager. It has some very vivid descriptions wjere she "felt" her surrounding environment.

The society deemed emotion as a "disease", so emotions were supressed. I think they used drugs for that, but details are hazy. Also humanity was forced underground into bunkers because of "nuclear war" , but it was revealed that it was a lie made by the rich to push people into underground bunkers.

For some reason the protagonist could still feel emotions. She eventaully left her bunker and joined a rebellion against the evil government.

One of the other characters was a boy who could see the future, amd he was captured and lobotomized by the government at some point.

The story happened a hundred or so years in the future.

People with superpowers started to appear in-universe, but they were new and kept secret by the government. There was a healer, someone with lightning blasts, and a few other things.

Also I remember that the government had surveillance satellites that used infrared cameras to stop people on the surface who shouldn't be there. It was a minor plot point that the rebellion had a special harness thay could somehow make people invisible to infrared cameras

I did some digging, and the series was NOT the Delirium series by Lauren Oliver.

The aspect of "government bans emotion" matches, but it has a lack of telekinetic powers.

https://www.goodreads.com/series/52834-delirium
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Might it be The City of Ember?
 


I am appalled that this has been a thing for nine years and I didn't know!
 
Autocorruptor said:
I am looking for a book but I forgot the title.

I checked it out from a public library between 2013 and 2019. It was a young adult dystopia science fiction story.

The protagonist had telekinetic powers and she was a teenager. It has some very vivid descriptions wjere she "felt" her surrounding environment.

The society deemed emotion as a "disease", so emotions were supressed. I think they used drugs for that, but details are hazy. Also humanity was forced underground into bunkers because of "nuclear war" , but it was revealed that it was a lie made by the rich to push people into underground bunkers.

For some reason the protagonist could still feel emotions. She eventaully left her bunker and joined a rebellion against the evil government.

One of the other characters was a boy who could see the future, amd he was captured and lobotomized by the government at some point.

The story happened a hundred or so years in the future.

People with superpowers started to appear in-universe, but they were new and kept secret by the government. There was a healer, someone with lightning blasts, and a few other things.

Also I remember that the government had surveillance satellites that used infrared cameras to stop people on the surface who shouldn't be there. It was a minor plot point that the rebellion had a special harness thay could somehow make people invisible to infrared cameras

I did some digging, and the series was NOT the Delirium series by Lauren Oliver.

The aspect of "government bans emotion" matches, but it has a lack of telekinetic powers.

https://www.goodreads.com/series/52834-delirium
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Glitch by Heather Anastasiu
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So, got some Audible Credits saved up, because I go through my library slowly enough for them to build up, and now need some recommendations to take my mind off of things.

Preferably Medieval-ish Fantasy, but I'm open for suggestions beyond that scope. Just not Military Sci-Fi, since I'm burned out on that genre.
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It's been like a decade+ since I listened, but the Circle of Magic audiobooks (Tamora Pierce) were unreasonably good.
 
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Okay that redirects me to the main page for some reason, but I think you want to be right-clicking the image and clicking either copy image address or open in new tab and use that url.

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so, I was watching the Chillin' in Another World with Level 2 Super Cheat Powers anime and I was having a strange reaction, so I went to go read the manga.

I was hit by Severe Deja-vu

but here's the thing, while multiple scenes are familiar to me, as in I remember that exact scene, but there is stuff I don't recognise.

I don't remember ever reading the manga before, is this a case of possibly be some Manga/anime which is so similar to 'Chillin' in Another World with Level 2 Super Cheat Powers' or is it a case I might of stumbled across a poorly put together Anime Recap on youtube a long time ago?
 
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so, I was watching the Chillin' in Another World with Level 2 Super Cheat Powers anime and I was having a strange reaction, so I went to go read the manga.

I was hit by Severe Deja-vu

but here's the thing, while multiple scenes are familiar to me, as in I remember that exact scene, but there is stuff I don't recognise.

I don't remember ever reading the manga before, is this a case of possibly be some Manga/anime which is so similar to 'Chillin' in Another World with Level 2 Super Cheat Powers' or is it a case I might of stumbled across a poorly put together Anime Recap on youtube a long time ago?
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Maybe the genre is now so inbred that they're reusing the same scenes with slightly different models?
 
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