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Making ai tags mandatory

Gnosis

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making it mandatory to use a tag to announce the use of ai and the manner in which it was used would greatly help in filtering those threads.
it is really annoying to read a story just for the author to start using ai halfway through, causing what feels like every second sentence to be "it was not x, it was y" or for mundane things to be overdramatized.
adding a tag is something that would cost the author maybe five seconds yet would significantky increase usability of this site and ease of navigating threads.
 
Yeah. While if it was feasible, I'd probably want people to tag Ai far more often, the fact of the matter is the mods have much better things to do than try to police what tags people use and I don't trust the community with the power to just decide based on vibes if a story they like/dislike is Ai or not. There's no realistic way to ensure compliance with such a rule, so it runs afoul of the old saying: ''never make a rule you know you can't enforce.''
 
While I agree that in a perfect world this would be nice, like others have said it's simply not viable as many of us have mentioned in previous posts on this idea. The best option would be to simply leave a review, a respectful and helpful one and outline the problems your having with the structure and grammar of the story, and say if it is egregious enough to make you drop the story. I would say only do this in stories you have already been following that either have started using AI slop, or got bad at it enough you noticed. If it's a new story, simply leave, and mark ignore. People that are using a tool badly and actually wish to improve will, those that don't will be naturally filtered out by being ignored.
Lets not try and add things that will make the mod's lives harder, and take them from areas that they do need to focus on.
 
Gnosis said:
making it mandatory to use a tag to announce the use of ai and the manner in which it was used would greatly help in filtering those threads.
it is really annoying to read a story just for the author to start using ai halfway through, causing what feels like every second sentence to be "it was not x, it was y" or for mundane things to be overdramatized.
adding a tag is something that would cost the author maybe five seconds yet would significantky increase usability of this site and ease of navigating threads.
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Not even close to possible. Nevermind no tag is enforced to begin with, unless someone happen to create a tool that detect AI writing for sure, we're not checking every story for that.
 
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Not even close to possible. Nevermind no tag is enforced to begin with, unless someone happen to create a tool that detect AI writing for sure, we're not checking every story for that.
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Sometimes, when I get bored or I'm taking a break from working on my own stuff, I'll grab excerpts from popular books or speeches or lectures and run them through one of those 'AI Detectors'.
The results are very often highly entertaining.
 
Particularly in discussions, I have been accused of
- using AI as a thesaurus
- being a bot
- asking GPT for comebacks

All years before LLMs could come within spitting distance of even the median population's skill with words.

If you have a philosophical objection to lazy writers using a tool that gets their ideas on paper without the tedious work of developing the discipline to write, that's a personal complaint that you need to skip the hypocrisy, develop the discipline to identify [what you deem to be] AI writing and avoid it yourself.

If you have a philosophical desire to actively help curate the available story quality, you need to skip the laziness and devise a means of curating things yourself to set up an approval system yourself, not pester mods who are already doing far more work than they let show.

If you just want a way to dehumanize people for having learned their language skills the same way that LLMs have to, we can find a venue to discuss the benefits, detriments, and morality of depersoning anyone who was raised without dedicated tutelage in the nuance and artistry of language. It's quite a robust conversation once you get past the gits who just want to feel special because they can recognize memetic patterns surfacing in prose.

If you can't even tell the difference between a human being parroting what they've read in order to explore and develop their own voice and a parrot rock that never aims to develop itself and just reflects what its users appreciate, then we have a much less civilized discussion to have.
 
Why do you need this to be tagged? Either you can already "tell", or you already can't. If AI can write so good you can't detect it, you can't complain about its quality, mission is complete, the AI is fine to read. If AI can write so good you false flag human authors of being AI, you've started a witch hunt for no reason. If AI writes so bad you can "tell" it's AI, then go read something else. If a human writes so bad you false flag them of being AI, then you've started a witch hunt for no reason and should have gone to read something else. The decision table in all four squares favor telling you to go sit and spin instead of tagging AI generated text.
 
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honestly i dont see the issue with ai. If its good and works that means there is skill involved in properly directing the story, understanding story beats, being able to coax the ai into a mindset that aligns with the vision you have for the story, developed skills to edit the issues you spot.

Its not lazy. its just a different skillset. All this witch-hunting is pointless imo cause the slop is just that slop. easy to spot and easy to skip.

Also our tags system is just "slap what you want on there and go at it" so yeah no... we wont do a full tag rework just to enable witch hunt behavior.
 
I personally don't give a shit if somethings made by Ai or not. Is it readable and entertaining to a decent degree? is the only criteria I have for such.
 
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