Rule 8 Question

[Dirk Diggler]

I have a fic in mind with an MC that would have Alt-right/racist views. It would be set in Worm, so it would not touch on IRL politics or real people, but views such as racism, anti-semitism, anti-liberalism etc... would be expressed, and not in an offhand/cartoonish manner (and not in a fashion intended to proselytize to the reader). Does this sound like too much to the mods?

 

[tehelgee]

I have a fic in mind with an MC that would have Alt-right/racist views. It would be set in Worm, so it would not touch on IRL politics or real people, but views such as racism, anti-semitism, anti-liberalism etc... would be expressed, and not in an offhand/cartoonish manner (and not in a fashion intended to proselytize to the reader). Does this sound like too much to the mods?

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A racist character is not against Rule 8, nor would having a sexist, homophobic, or a character that celebrates the diverse so long as it's not referencing current events. However, the anti-liberalism would trade too close to current politics to be indistinguishable.

 

[Dirk Diggler]

A racist character is not against Rule 8, nor would having a sexist, homophobic, or a character that celebrates the diverse so long as it's not referencing current events. However, the anti-liberalism would trade too close to current politics to be indistinguishable.

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Alright, I'll keep that in mind. Thank you.

 

[magic9mushroom]

However, the anti-liberalism would trade too close to current politics to be indistinguishable.

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This board was created as a place for people to post their quests without having to worry overly much about policing themselves.

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I think you may have lost sight of the ideals that built this place. That is sad, for they are worthy ideals.

 

[Biigoh]

I think you may have lost sight of the ideals that built this place. That is sad, for they are worthy ideals.

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Well... in truth, rule 8 is an outgrowth of rule 1 because people could not understand that it was annoying to have politics shit things up and kept derailing with politics and attacking each other.

 

[Cherry Lover]

Well... in truth, rule 8 is an outgrowth of rule 1 because people could not understand that it was annoying to have politics shit things up and kept derailing with politics and attacking each other.

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Yeah, but when it's actually affecting what people can write in quests or fics, that's an actual problem. This kind of thing is exactly what I was worried about when the rule was first implemented.

 

[Megaolix]

I think you may have lost sight of the ideals that built this place. That is sad, for they are worthy ideals.

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Yeah, but when it's actually affecting what people can write in quests or fics, that's an actual problem. This kind of thing is exactly what I was worried about when the rule was first implemented.

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Get over it already. What kind of fic would absolutely need anti-liberalism that would need to absolutely be posted here? This is like losing out on .1% of stories that could be posted here. And even that, .1% is a bit high.

 

[John_Oakman]

This is why I'm glad I always claim hentai works for my social political inspirations...

 

[Cherry Lover]

Get over it already. What kind of fic would absolutely need anti-liberalism that would need to absolutely be posted here? This is like losing out on .1% of stories that could be posted here. And even that, .1% is a bit high.

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I just don't like the fact that authors have to actually consider whether their fic has political connotations. Personally, I'm not willing to alter what I'm going to write because of the rules of a site, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Also, when the rule was originally instituted, you specifically stated that this would not happen. So, you breaking that promise is not exactly reassuring.

 

[magic9mushroom]

What kind of fic would absolutely need anti-liberalism

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The whole point of QQ is that you can write whatever the fuck you want and not have to profane it with censorship. A ton of authors (TanaNari is a good example) moved here because they were revolted by how SB and SV just assume that authors will be willing to rewrite their work to fit their tastes. The moment you start asking the question "does the fic need XYZ", you've jumped ship into that mindset and abandoned the empowerment of authors that makes this place so refreshing. It's not about whether it needs it. It's about being faithful to the author's vision.

Banning political discussion is one thing - I might not like it, but you have a point that it's not the purpose of QQ. Banning or forcing edits to fics? That's a whole different fucking ball game. That's QQ's main selling point being compromised. That's the point at which "the site on which I can have all my fic in one place without violating rules" stops being QQ and starts being DWW or somewhere else equally obscure (AO3 bans original work, technically, though the fact that "original work" is a searchable tag speaks volumes).

 

[Megaolix]

Banning political discussion is one thing - I might not like it, but you have a point that it's not the purpose of QQ. Banning or forcing edits to fics? That's a whole different fucking ball game. That's QQ's main selling point being compromised. That's the point at which "the site on which I can have all my fic in one place without violating rules" stops being QQ and starts being DWW or somewhere else equally obscure (AO3 bans original work, technically, though the fact that "original work" is a searchable tag speaks volumes).

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>We ask that you don't go that far, probably a little bit too close to RL and that may make people to derail about it.

>QQ's ideals are compromised! It will never be again what was promised!

Yeah, no. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.