[Star Wars] how much fault lies in Master Yoda?

[CILinkz]

it is often depicted that the Republic wasnt the only one full of Corruption, but the Jedi Order aswell. festering Cracks that noone knew where they came from, Rot and Pride that they either never saw the Darkness infesting the Republic or too Prideful to see the cracks that happened under their own Noses. turning more into Politicians then Monks.

but i never saw a Story where Master Yoda was directly confronted with problems his decisions caused. he always was a Fan-favorite so i never saw any Bashing or personal failure which is kinda weird. he was the Grandmaster, everything was open to him, he was the highest Authority from the Jedi. but he never made any mistakes we saw? it was always either "i didnt see it" or some other Master was behind it and it never blew back to Yoda. maybe because he never made any decisions at all and let everyone else do as they pleased? and at the end when everything came out he always talked how regretful it was and that everything was his fault. what was his fault? which part as we never saw a decision or Mission that came back to bite him in the Ass or where he made a blatantly wrong call ( if we ever saw him doing anything ofc)

what you guys think?

 

[Kalem_Lee]

I kinda wonder about it thanks to rewatching the OT and some youtubers talkin about it. But while Luke was the only way(ignoring the living jedi) to kill the Emps despite his lack of training or at least the core value of what Yoda assumes is Jedin training, it'sm literally one dude against two of the most powerful sith lords around.

Crazy ass gambling there Yoda.

 

[Savinkov]

I think it was his wait and see approach that cost the Jedi order a lot. Not too mention his decision to not investigate further on certain matters.
Also, I would blame myself too if an organization that has stood for thousands years came to an end under my watch.

 

[Xintax]

Yoda was the origin of quite a bit of the rot perpetuating within the order, he held far too much personal influence due to the longevity of his species being what around 800 year old during the clone wars. That is to say that, around half of the high council were made up of his apprentices or their direct apprentices indicating that he had tremendous soft power to shape events/views for the order as a whole at the highest level. Add in the fact that he spent time mentoring the younglings and you can't point at someone with more fault for the fall of the order than Yoda.

It was ultimately his fear of the darkside and having jedi actually experience the temptation that the darkside promises that directly led to the collapse of the order. He also lacked in understanding the priorities of the younger generations within species that have far shorter lifespans making him Inherently ill suited for his role in the order, had he only occasionally given sage council but otherwise fucked off Ala Master Fey, the order itself wouldn't have had as many issues as it did.

 

[Soupervan]

The sith clouded their senses starting from Palpatine's Master, the plan was a long one of slowly increasing corruption so it would be even harder to see until it broke out into the clone wars by then everyone would be too busy.
Yoda was in charge of the Jedi so a lot of the blame is on him but.. we're used to seeing with our eyes, that's why it's so devestating when we go blind and why we have to get used to walking sticks and guide dogs and all the inconviences. Likewise the jedi are used to seeing with the force, they can't be entirely blamed when they're blinded by the dark side, though it is a major flaw in their training not to take the force with a grain of salt.

Yoda's worst failing was probably allowing and not fighting the updated code, the old code worked well for the Jedi since it was founded but then they changed it up into something that made them repress their feelings until they turned dark, with the old code Vader might have been less likely.

That they didn't allow jedi to marry also reduced the number of force sensitives- read future jedi- meaning they had a lot less jedi than they would have, maybe if they went by the old code even if Vader came to be and everything there would have been a lot more jedi that managed to escape or fight off the clone troopers, perhaps multiple jedi conclaves so Vader couldn't have slayed all the younglings instead causing the emperor to rely on less capable beings like droids or clones allowing a chance for even more future jedi's survival.
The rebellion could have then been over in a single movie instead of a trilogy if that happened... which probably is a good reason Lucas didn't go with the old code.

 

[CILinkz]

If yoda is so old and as grandmaster, isnt he the one who WROTE the new code? Who wrote it if not him or he atleast should have had a heavy hand in its conception. Is it really "allowing" something if your in charge of the whole thing?