With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

[Vaermina]

Vega has at least half a dozen combat flotillas from multiple species, a cloning facility for Kryptonians with multiple combat users plus the doomsday and a local Orange Lantern Chapter. Their ability to tank a reach punitive attack is much higher than earth, hence why Grayv said he would use the opportunity to spread misinformation.

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So you ignore all their defensive forces and Supernova their sun.

 

[Darko]

So you ignore all their defensive forces and Supernova their sun.

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You obviously didn't read what Chaoswind wrote because if you did then you would know that they have a bunch of ships, Kryptonians and Lanterns present there.

All of these things can stop the Reach from doing shenanigans with any celestial body.

In order for them to blow up any sun they'd have to get past any defense force.

They can't just ignore it.

Oh, and you forgot one little thing.

Granted with your track record you seem to forget practically everything.

A few pages ago you mentioned that this wasn't the Renegade but just Grayven that's been brainwashed into thinking that he's the Renegade.

This is important because in the chapter where this supposedly happened there was a machine that could let someone control the Vega system and things in it like the suns and planets.

So if the Reach somehow manage to get past a fleet of ships, an army of Lanterns and Kryptonians and blow up a sun, the Renegade can probably just push the rewind button and the sun will be back in working order.

 

[Vaermina]

You obviously didn't read what Chaoswind wrote because if you did then you would know that they have a bunch of ships, Kryptonians and Lanterns present there.

All of these things can stop the Reach from doing shenanigans with any celestial body.

In order for them to blow up any sun they'd have to get past any defense force.

They can't just ignore it.

Oh, and you forgot one little thing.

Granted with your track record you seem to forget practically everything.

A few pages ago you mentioned that this wasn't the Renegade but just Grayven that's been brainwashed into thinking that he's the Renegade.

This is important because in the chapter where this supposedly happened there was a machine that could let someone control the Vega system and things in it like the suns and planets.

So if the Reach somehow manage to get past a fleet of ships, an army of Lanterns and Kryptonians and blow up a sun, the Renegade can probably just push the rewind button and the sun will be back in working order.

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General reminder that we know from the main story that The Reach have ways to bypass any sort of FTL interdiction, which means the fleets don't actually matter.

Similarly we know, because they used one on Orange Lantern, that they possess "delete everything" bombs.

 

[Someguy Somewhere]

"With the Controllers." She considers me for a moment. "You've changed."

"If we ever meet, I'll give you a wooden spoon."

She blinks. "What?"

I shake my head, waving my right hand dismissively. "Cultural reference. A prize of no great value, usually awarded for last place or to someone who got no points."

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I know this sounds a bit odd, but I do want to point out that:
1) As the Reachian observed, 'Grayven' HAS changed, his behaviour being significantly different from 'evil overlord' to 'smiling and insulting'.
2) Has made a very much out of (observed) character reference to a fairly specific cultural oddity.

Now, this Reachian is dead or dying very soon by the look of things, but I'd half expect a recording of the communication to get out as part of the 'disinformation' idea Renegade is going on.

I wouldn't put it passed the reach to try and identify both the cause of the change in their foe, and the obtuse references made by him, in part of their psychological profiling and counter intel work.

So....given that Savage did contact them, what are the odds that they have any data on Earth Culture to back track this with?

 

[BR549]

To be clear, the Reach have no idea where Vega is or what kryptonians are.

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I'm not so sure about that. In canon Young Justice, it has been awhile (...14 years...), but I recall when the Reach learned of the Justice League, Black Beetle listed "Kryptonians, plural" as one of the reasons for his vote to give up the whole Earth project as a bad idea.

 

[Darko]

General reminder that we know from the main story that The Reach have ways to bypass any sort of FTL interdiction, which means the fleets don't actually matter.

Similarly we know, because they used one on Orange Lantern, that they possess "delete everything" bombs.

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Yeah, I'm sure that Dox and Renegade wouldn't have thought of adding any sort of censors in their tech that can detect ships coming near their territory.

And sure, the Reach ships can't be stopped, even though we've seen their ships destroyed plenty of times and they also have Kryptonian tech in Vega, which according to you is the most advanced tech in the universe.

Nit to mention the fact that so far we haven't seen them use qwa matter in the Renegade side of the stories, or even if they have enough to blow up a sun.

And you also didn't explain how they'd deal with the Orrery.

I'm not so sure about that. In canon Young Justice, it has been awhile (...14 years...), but I recall when the Reach learned of the Justice League, Black Beetle listed "Kryptonians, plural" as one of the reasons for his vote to give up the whole Earth project as a bad idea.

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That doesn't necessarily contradict what Zoat said.

The Reach came to Earth years after this chapter takes place in-universe, so they could have eventually learned about them.

 

[Sockmonkey]

The Reach does send infiltrators to scout out places before they make official contact. Probably a brainwashed member of some other species to cover their asses. Probably passive stealth probes to listen in on broadcasts too.