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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)
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This should be Supplementary as the Renegade was the main part of this episode.
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Isn't Zero Point in the arctic? Or possibly Antarctic. Either way just getting troops there would be a long an arduous process. Maintaining even a small presence for a matter of days would be a logistical nightmare.
On the other hand carving out a crater via long-range missile bombardment, nuclear or otherwise, would be relatively simple.
Different circumstances. The Hawks have reincarnated and remarried several times. Clearly it works for them. Usagi and Mamoru are first time reincarnations. How much of 'them' is preserved and how much baggage is carried over is unknown.
Might also be that Paul is conscious of their ages and just wants them to slow down and think before they get in too deep.
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Ah, I'll change it then. We he adopted, or did he grow up in an orphanage?
They have the categories male and female.
A place in a restaurant. Fortunately, they'll probably accept 'we were dragged into a parallel universe' as an excuse.
Because he's studied the mechanism for the Hawks, and as Sockmonkey says, they were already together.
Sandro would rather permanently give up his right arm than go back to Ashan. He's staying on Phobos.
Just a chunk of it. Hell is very big.
Thank you, corrected.
So close.
He's exaggerating, but it's amazing what you can achieve with unlimited resources and political unity.
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If there is any military in the world that has the logistics to put a significant chunk of the army in Antarctica, it would be the US Military. Their logistics capacity is quite literally unmatched in the world.
And in response to a magical demonic attack that consumed a fair chunk of the planet, there aint anyone who is going to be against giving the military infinite money to do something about it.
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Angelica wasn't very sociable. Her knowledge from many, many years as Blaze didn't really come up in this adventure.
I figured some sort of angelic technique (or a recalibrated demonic spell) would have been helpful for this Earth. Now that her own ego and demonic urges aren't urging her towards bad choices, I figured we might see a bit of Constantine or Golden Boy in her role as a party member. Getting back to "leaving a lasting impact on one of these worlds," she could leave some sort of blessed object on at least one world. Magic for an emergency, with enough juice in it to contact Angelica through the Bleed between universes. Maybe a cross to pray at or one specific Bible.
Oh well. Maybe she's become motivated to keep researching WHY this happened once she returns to her Earth.
I figured some sort of angelic technique (or a recalibrated demonic spell) would have been helpful for this Earth. Now that her own ego and demonic urges aren't urging her towards bad choices, I figured we might see a bit of Constantine or Golden Boy in her role as a party member. Getting back to "leaving a lasting impact on one of these worlds," she could leave some sort of blessed object on at least one world. Magic for an emergency, with enough juice in it to contact Angelica through the Bleed between universes. Maybe a cross to pray at or one specific Bible.
Oh well. Maybe she's become motivated to keep researching WHY this happened once she returns to her Earth.
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Apparently, in the live action version he was fostered. Unless it's explicitly stated as being different in the other versions, assume that he's talking about his foster family and doesn't see the point in explaining the whole situation.
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Man, he's really just doing everything possible to fuck over the Sailor Moon universe, isn't he.
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Random question Zoat, have you ever played dishonored or the sequels? Cause looking at it from an outside perspective, Delilah Copperspoon isn't really an evil person outside of her hatred for the actual royal family... by normal imperial standards anyway. She took the throne from her niece, and if she was advised to rule better she might have ended up better than the protagonist/empress, who honestly didn't like her job much but really wanted her father back.
You may need to kill a duke or two but generally speaking it occurred to me that, "right to rule" aside Delilah isn't really worse than Emily at the start of the game, and how an OL would deal with that.
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No.
I tend to think that if you're going to overthrow a non-tyrannous queen, you better be able to do the job a lot better than them by yourself. Any advisors you rope in, you could have just recommended to them. Or just become their leading advisor and take as much work as they'll give you, becoming the eminence grise.
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How much of what power rings can do is dependent on a ring's AI? I know they an create constructs and can fly without it, but can they do things like heal? Could you assimilate people without having an AI on an orange power ring? Or make portals with a indigo power ring without it? What emotion is the white light supposed to represent? I have never been able to parce what it would feel like, I know its the synthesis of all the lights of the emotional spectrum but thats about it? Would it be existential joy or something like that?
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White is 'Life' rather than any specific emotion. Also, the limits of a Ring tend to depend on what emotion it's attached to, at least in this fic.
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Yes.
Yes... But you'll be limited to line of sight without the scanner and stellar mapping.
Selfless impersonal delight in the existence of existence. If you haven't felt it them I don't think I can properly explain it.
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I'd highly recommend them; at the very least the first, which is amazing. (And Corvo does a few things I could honestly see the Illustres doing such as 'attending a masqueade ball in full regalia and signing his actual name in the guestbook'). The sequels are good, but not quite as utterly outstanding, and the replacement VA for the Outsider isn't nearly as good. And some of the plot decisions about the Outsider's backstory are...IMHO, 'too much is explained'.
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HappyHappy
29th August 2013
22:29 GMT -5
Artemis glares at me in astonishment.
"Waitwaitwaitwait. Sailor Moon."
"Yes. I mean we.. didn't talk for long-."
"How did you not recognize her? You made me a Sailor Moon costume on Halloween!"
"I didn't actually meet her until the whole thing was almost over. I was mostly dealing with Sailor Venus."
"She looks basically the same!"
"But her name's different. And she was wearing a-." Oh gods it's finally happened. "A.. little… Mask-thing."
Artemis shakes her head, hands turned upwards in a 'so what?' gesture.
"Look, I recognised it as a sailor fuku type outfit, but since it wasn't exactly the same as Sailor Moon's costume I thought it was just… You know, drawing inspiration from the same source. I don't assume that everyone in a skin tight costume with a cape is Superman."
"She was Sailor Moon!"
"I never watched it! And it was Sailor Venus! Except she introduced herself as 'Sailor V' so I never made the connection!"
Artemis closes her eyes and rubs her forehead with her right hand.
"And I.. thought she meant the French phrase, rather than…"
She snort-laughs, shaking her head. "Did you tell Jade yet?"
"Yeah, she had no idea who Sailor Moon was."
"Really?" She frowns, her eyes growing distant. "Oh yeah, I guess I only started watching it after she.. left. Huh."
"Do you want to get everyone together for a Sailor Moon marathon?"
"Doesn't Bir Tawil have a sex-ratio more extreme than Themyscira right now?"
"No, though it does have fewer men in total. It's the per capita you've got to watch out for."
Though with 'taking the Medina approach' becoming more common-. Not common-common, but she's far from the only one, Themyscira has actually had a few male births. The rest of the new mothers have just been upfront about their intentions from the start. Except Daphne, who is actually marrying the child's father, and that's a forum bunfight I am staying the heck away from.
"'cause you've got those two Orange Lantern girls-."
"Women."
"Mother and daughter, huh?"
"There were perfectly good reasons for recruiting them unrelated to my libido."
"And Supergirl and Bleez."
"And Jade."
"So are there, like, pillow fights..?"
This time I close my eyes. "To the best of my knowledge there has only been one. I walked in on the closing stages and immediately turned around and left. Lantern Coutara also did not participate."
"And Jade did?"
"I think so? I respected that it was female-specific bonding activity and kept my nose out."
"Is that your excuse for not recognising Sailor Moon?"
Alright, if you want to be like that… "On the next world I visited we met a man named Flynn Taggart. Naturally, I was thrilled."
I stare at her, and raise my eyebrows.
"What?" She shrugs. "I don't know who that is."
"Main character of Doom."
She thinks about it for about two seconds. "Yeah, I don't know what that is either. And I never even made someone a costume of it."
There's a yellow blur, and then Wallace is next to us. "Who's making a costume?"
"Doom."
He looks puzzled. "Doom's making a costume?"
"No, Doom, the game where you kill demons."
"Oh." He sits down next to us. "Yeah, I guess it would be kinda difficult. The soldiers just look like generic soldiers and the demons would need a full body suit. So… What d' they look like in three-d?"
I generate a palm-sized construct imp, then a pinkie, then rotate through the rest.
Artemis frowns. "That's not actual size, right?"
I roll my eyes, and add a construct of myself for scale.
She doesn't look impressed. "Can they do magic?"
"They basically just throw fireballs."
"So… What happened after the five seconds it would take you to nuke them all?"
"Oh, they did a ritual that turned my rings off. I had to fight them using a shotgun."
Wallace blinks. "Do you even-? Oh right, you go to that gun range."
"I stopped going a while ago, but yes, I do know how to use a shotgun."
"So was it like the game..?"
"The demons could climb and the Cyberdemon talked, but otherwise-" I nod. "-pretty much. Oh, Artemis wants to know if you're up for a Sailor Moon marathon."
He looks awkwardly at Artemis. "Ah…"
"You don't have to."
"Well… You say that… But-."
"You don't have to!"
He looks at me, trying to gain information form my facial expression.
"Hey, I've got to do it as a penalty for ending up in the Sailor Moon universe and not noticing. You don't-."
"I'll-. Okay, I'll do it. Always good to broaden your horizons, right?"
Artemis looks away, rolling her eyes and shaking her head. Wallace-.
"Oh, hey." He looks down over the edge of the roof towards the suspected drug distribution centre we're staking out. "Looks like they're on the move."
29th August 2013
22:29 GMT -5
Artemis glares at me in astonishment.
"Waitwaitwaitwait. Sailor Moon."
"Yes. I mean we.. didn't talk for long-."
"How did you not recognize her? You made me a Sailor Moon costume on Halloween!"
"I didn't actually meet her until the whole thing was almost over. I was mostly dealing with Sailor Venus."
"She looks basically the same!"
"But her name's different. And she was wearing a-." Oh gods it's finally happened. "A.. little… Mask-thing."
Artemis shakes her head, hands turned upwards in a 'so what?' gesture.
"Look, I recognised it as a sailor fuku type outfit, but since it wasn't exactly the same as Sailor Moon's costume I thought it was just… You know, drawing inspiration from the same source. I don't assume that everyone in a skin tight costume with a cape is Superman."
"She was Sailor Moon!"
"I never watched it! And it was Sailor Venus! Except she introduced herself as 'Sailor V' so I never made the connection!"
Artemis closes her eyes and rubs her forehead with her right hand.
"And I.. thought she meant the French phrase, rather than…"
She snort-laughs, shaking her head. "Did you tell Jade yet?"
"Yeah, she had no idea who Sailor Moon was."
"Really?" She frowns, her eyes growing distant. "Oh yeah, I guess I only started watching it after she.. left. Huh."
"Do you want to get everyone together for a Sailor Moon marathon?"
"Doesn't Bir Tawil have a sex-ratio more extreme than Themyscira right now?"
"No, though it does have fewer men in total. It's the per capita you've got to watch out for."
Though with 'taking the Medina approach' becoming more common-. Not common-common, but she's far from the only one, Themyscira has actually had a few male births. The rest of the new mothers have just been upfront about their intentions from the start. Except Daphne, who is actually marrying the child's father, and that's a forum bunfight I am staying the heck away from.
"'cause you've got those two Orange Lantern girls-."
"Women."
"Mother and daughter, huh?"
"There were perfectly good reasons for recruiting them unrelated to my libido."
"And Supergirl and Bleez."
"And Jade."
"So are there, like, pillow fights..?"
This time I close my eyes. "To the best of my knowledge there has only been one. I walked in on the closing stages and immediately turned around and left. Lantern Coutara also did not participate."
"And Jade did?"
"I think so? I respected that it was female-specific bonding activity and kept my nose out."
"Is that your excuse for not recognising Sailor Moon?"
Alright, if you want to be like that… "On the next world I visited we met a man named Flynn Taggart. Naturally, I was thrilled."
I stare at her, and raise my eyebrows.
"What?" She shrugs. "I don't know who that is."
"Main character of Doom."
She thinks about it for about two seconds. "Yeah, I don't know what that is either. And I never even made someone a costume of it."
There's a yellow blur, and then Wallace is next to us. "Who's making a costume?"
"Doom."
He looks puzzled. "Doom's making a costume?"
"No, Doom, the game where you kill demons."
"Oh." He sits down next to us. "Yeah, I guess it would be kinda difficult. The soldiers just look like generic soldiers and the demons would need a full body suit. So… What d' they look like in three-d?"
I generate a palm-sized construct imp, then a pinkie, then rotate through the rest.
Artemis frowns. "That's not actual size, right?"
I roll my eyes, and add a construct of myself for scale.
She doesn't look impressed. "Can they do magic?"
"They basically just throw fireballs."
"So… What happened after the five seconds it would take you to nuke them all?"
"Oh, they did a ritual that turned my rings off. I had to fight them using a shotgun."
Wallace blinks. "Do you even-? Oh right, you go to that gun range."
"I stopped going a while ago, but yes, I do know how to use a shotgun."
"So was it like the game..?"
"The demons could climb and the Cyberdemon talked, but otherwise-" I nod. "-pretty much. Oh, Artemis wants to know if you're up for a Sailor Moon marathon."
He looks awkwardly at Artemis. "Ah…"
"You don't have to."
"Well… You say that… But-."
"You don't have to!"
He looks at me, trying to gain information form my facial expression.
"Hey, I've got to do it as a penalty for ending up in the Sailor Moon universe and not noticing. You don't-."
"I'll-. Okay, I'll do it. Always good to broaden your horizons, right?"
Artemis looks away, rolling her eyes and shaking her head. Wallace-.
"Oh, hey." He looks down over the edge of the roof towards the suspected drug distribution centre we're staking out. "Looks like they're on the move."
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If Paul wants to help his friends wrap their heads around the idea of the Sailor Scouts (or just magical girls in general), he can always just say that they're kinda like Star Sapphires, but less prone to going crazy.
Which is mostly true.
Which is mostly true.
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Thank you Artemis.
Always nice to check back in on the team.
Always nice to check back in on the team.
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Aren't they at all curious why Paul keeps ending up in fictional universes? Isn't there some higher in-universe power they could consult over this?
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I assume Paul himself deflects if they ask, since he's still managed to avoid telling the Team that, at the very least, their universe isn't any more real than those ones
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Add a " at thevend of Artemis' sentence.
Hahaha!
And I was recently watching that Gridlock episode of Dr Who with the people selling those mood patches.
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Missing end quote.
When you live in a world of jet-powered apes and time travel, and you know for a demonstratable fact that the multiverse exists, the concept of "fiction reflections", in both directions, loses its novelty quickly and becomes a "huh, guess this is happening now/again" thing.
(As for the 'higher in-universe power they could consult', that would be Ambush Bug, last seen being tricked by Orange Lantern into having to go through every panel of every issue of every DC comic ever published to establish that Paul wasn't actually a canonical background character from somewhere.)
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I'll go back and check later, but didn't he tell them -or maybe just Aqualad- something in parallel to that after taking back the lacers from the pirates.
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...Joy Joy. Oh, she must be so jealous of you right now, OL. Getting to meet Sailor Moon and the rest? ...I hope he didn't tell her about having to disintegrate part of their sort-of-undead skulls, not the fact his local was kind-of dating Sailor Venus...
True, for most of the encounter, she wasn't capable of speech. Also, Usagi has terrible English skills, and that is Canon. Even if he didn't need to speak English to her, she might well have tried it on him if she'd been in a better mood...
And to be fair, a leotard with a skirt and sailor collar is seriously generic. As proved by the number of hentai copycats...
Hey, don't judge.Which I will note was not a thing in her appearance in the 90's anime after her initial appearance. Nor did Sailor Moon, after the first couple of times she discarded her mask upon transforming in the manga.
Unlike DC, boom, boom... Seriously, the number of lawsuits they threw at people back in the thirties to cut down on 'Superman copycats'... Even when the only similarity was 'colourful costumed strongman with cape. Sorry, Captain Marvel...Yeah, her whole disguise plan kind of became moot in the anime after she joined Sailor Moon. And then after the first season, she went from the ultra-competent veteran to the ditzy foul-up once she could finally relax.
To be fair, that's the same pun her original creator used. 'C'est la vie' and 'Sailor V' sound nearly identical in Japanese phenomes: 'Sera Bi'.
I'm sure she was amused by the romantic entablement of your local counterpart, though.
It'd have to be a short one, mind. The classic anime ran about 25-ish minutes an episode, with about 20 minutes of story content and 15 minutes of plot once you skip the opening, ending and stock animation. Which made it troublesome when they dubbed it into episodes for half-hour timeslots.
Isn't OL basically the only guy there right now? And that mostly because it's technically his place?
I'm guessing that refers to a 'have one-night stands with random men' routine some of the Themyscirans have been using. And I wouldn't be surprised to find the bunfight can sometimes turn literal.
Like, women actually throwing bread at each other as they argue.The daughter was just about legal age on her world, right? Just about to get her eyes removed... And once again, eff the eye-eater god and all his most-loyal devotees..
Besides, the mother has at least some trauma from men, despite her falling into a 'wifely' role under OL at times.
Which basically means as far as he's concerned, the other women aren't women.
Yes, there's no safety to be had there for anyone with a 'Y' chromosome...
No safety at all, even for the Illustres of the Orange Lantern Corps.
Fortunately, he was not the Doom Slayer yet. So he could still talk.
OL, 'Doom' would have come out when she was like two or three years old. I don't think even her father would have exposed her to that.
Now, Wally, I could see being interested in Doom, though it would have been an 'old' game by the time he started on a computer. Though there were versions on Playstation, Saturn and Nintendo 64 (The latter being an entirely new game story and modified gameplay that's quite well-loved...)
...Is there someone named Doom they'd have associated with lately?
Given that the monster sprites were made from photo-captures of claymation models, they'd be be surprisingly lifelike.
Given that Imps are around six feet tall and Pinkies closer to eight while hunched over, that's pretty handy.
Which were kind of hocked-up magical phlegm, really.
And it was not as much fun as the games might make you think, eh?
Sadly, none of you seemed to bother with the chaingun. Now that would have been fun: A man-portable minigun with up to 400 round in the magazine (The carrying limit of bullets in-game, with a backpack...)
Ironically, mantling is a feature the original Doom lacked, along with jumping of any kind (you could vault across gaps if you approached at enough speed due to momentum, but that was it.)
Danger, Wally, Danger. Girlfriend test alert!
Good, he's smart enough to catch the possible relationship trap.
Fortunately, he likely won't have to see his local counterpart in the 90's anime, much less the modern anime or live-action series.
And some of the monsters-of-the-week are kind of cute. As long as you don't mind seeing some of the weirder ones...
And Artemis' reaction to finding out he visited a world a lot like one of her favourite animated series was as amusing as expected. Got to love the reveal they were talking about this while on a stakeout, and OL's probably glad to be doing such a mundane activity again. Now, that title... I wonder what that could refer to...
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Thank you, corrected.
That's the reference.
Jay Garrick fondly reminisces over the time he fought alongside Flash Gordon.
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Now you've got me wondering if Jay Garrick is more active at the moment seeing as humanity is still rebuilding itself post-Anti-Life.
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Male, no 's'.
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Thank you, corrected.
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I feel like he would be, but maybe I'm wrong.
EDIT: Also, the title for the new episode kind of worries me. 'HappyHappy' in this sort of setting might mean mind-control, weird cults, or other horrifying stuff, rather than it being a feel-good breather.
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