Questionable Questing

Chicken and Gravy was nice. Want to talk Smut in Moat Calin tonight and how to section it and work on the Queen's Way as a formal in universe cultural system

Sure more moat Catlin sounds fun. And Queen's way, was that the original work we were working on the other day with the inner beasts?

Nope. Queen's Way is Lyanna's beliefs that are the source of the porn logic in Frozen Dreams and Bastard's Glory. The in universe hedonism

Oh, okay no that makes sense. I feel like it could use a stronger name for how powerful it is, but it is named after the queen so it does make sense in universe.

Westeros is not known for their creative naming conventions. lol

Shit on Martin but it the name Westros is iconic and works. Key to the Queen's Way is the belief in enchantment as a gateway to pleasure and happiness. Using magic to alter the mind and perfect the body to different degrees, people indulge in depravity and find their best experiences and emotions through that.

Enchanment is a two way magic. If you make a random girl your adoring slave, you alter yourself in turn to become what would be adored. Sympathy of sorcery. In Moat Calin, Melony is now Witch of the Queen's Way and that implies formal procedure.

Once consent is given for say a guard of Hurik's groping and misuing a girl as he likes, bets are off. But said girl has to agree to it first and gets something in return. That's core to the Queen's Way even for Hurik's rougher branch. Exchange of pleasure and fantasy.

So sexuality is a mutual journey two people take together rather than someone over power or controlling another person?

That's the difficulty of the Way. Getting to work with say a soldier who wants to be as forceful and possessive of a girl or femboy as he can be. Or a girl who wants a harem of other girls whipped and kept in a dungeon and devoted to her, but also the other parties get to push and pull. Like the guard gets what he wants but also a feiesty sharp tongued wench who scratches his back and is in turn dominant.

You need checks and balances and ways for shall we say less savory types to suffer if they push back against it too much. Magic's the excuse you can use, but it needs clearly defined rules and beings that can enforce them or it'll feel cheap.

Exactly. Ethically fucked but not vile per say. Enchantment being a two way binding means both parties are fucked up. People use the way to purposefully have themselves be fucked up. That sounds like something needing a system of mages and priests who manage, administer, judicate, and guide.

Kind of sounds like more of a religious movement rather than an administrative or hedonistic one. Which speaking of movements having travelling circus and bands performing these big shows and having mass orgies is a nice way to tie in elements of the real world Hippie Movement if your looking for real life version of this to use as inspiration.

That is interesting. Had that idea with the brother and sister pair who got transformed at the end of Frozen Dreams for being part of a plot to kill Lyanna and Robert and Wylla. A religious movement without a god. A spiritual philosophy of the highest most lustful sex. Mutual porn logic.

Well if you don't have a good, you need a core group of tenants and some religious leaders united in spreading them. You have Lyanna as the pope or John Smith, but now you need disciples of hers to spread the message and some ten commandments to follow.

Which speaking of the Mormon's that's another real life religious movement that could act as some pretty good inspiration, their whole idea of parallel economies and self sufficiency in particular, where you try to build systems that are as independent from wider society as possible, could be fun to explore.

Hurik is harsher then Lyanna for what he encourages. But that goes for girls too. A woman wants to grab a lad, feed him some spelled wine to make him worship and love her? Go ahead. But there has to be a point where the lad kinda accepts the plunge into enchantment

Femdom can be a lot of fun, especially with a tiny younger brother learning from a bratty older sister. Could have a scene of Lyanna doing this too Hurrik to, and that could be fun. Seeing someone as macho and try hard as Hurrik begging for his mommy.

To a degree. I like my maledom. What I think of is clashing Maledom and femdom. I never see that and it has creative potential. Two people sharing a desire to dominate the other as core to the ethos of Hurik's modifcation of the Queen's Way.

Are you looking to make it a competition where there's a definite loser or winner, with the two fighting for every scrap of power over the other they can? Or are you going with the idea that neither side cares about who really wins in the end, because the fun is in the chase and the competition rather than the end?