Jonn Wolfe
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Would that mean that a Third Trigger would be 'Jailbroken'?
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No, we know because Contessa couldn't path it. The explanation is her probably double triggering in the locker.No, it isn't. It's implied by canon, but never actually stated. We know that Numberman tells her that her trying for a second trigger to get the power she wants would be useless, but there are several possible reasons for that and "he knew she'd already had a second trigger" is only one of them.
Easy for me, but then again, I have Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome, so my natural sleep cycle is actually a lot closer to a 32 hour day than a 24 hour one.And I really must say, trying to conceptualize a 32 hour day without visual aides does not work for me. Luckily, spreadsheets exist.
No, it isn't. It's implied by canon, but never actually stated. We know that Numberman tells her that her trying for a second trigger to get the power she wants would be useless, but there are several possible reasons for that and "he knew she'd already had a second trigger" is only one of them.
I swear one of these days I'm gonna just bookmark this, so one of the many times I have to dig it up I don't have to spend 1/2 an hour trying to find it again...No, we know because Contessa couldn't path it. The explanation is her probably double triggering in the locker.
Not only does he say that Taylor Second Triggered, he says dual-Triggers are common (well, "not uncommon"; a slight, but distinct difference).Venom 29.7 said:"A nice sentiment," the Number Man said. "But I'm afraid that power you're digging for is out of your reach, Weaver."
I looked at him.
"Or it's already in your reach. You can't have a second trigger because you already had one," he said.
I blinked.
"Given the signature, it's very possible you had two trigger events in quick succession. Not uncommon. The horror of manifesting your power, it prompted another trigger."
"No," I said. "There's got to be something."
"If there is, a second trigger event isn't it," the Number Man said. "I can check your allies, but we can't do much more. We used to rely on Contessa's power to determine the exact event needed for a second trigger."
At least my slip was from literally next chapter, and not 4-5 chapters down the line. Letting something major, or from too far in the future, slip would be... Embarrassing.I think I've caught myself every time I almost let something slip, but it's always a concern.
We do? Where? I quick check for "second trigger", found Dr. Mother and Numberman explaining the issues involved in 29.7 and Numberman telling TaylorNo, we know because Contessa couldn't path it. The explanation is her probably double triggering in the locker.
Which I note is not definite but is AFAIK the only basis for her having had a second trigger."Given the signature, it's very possible you had two trigger events in quick succession. Not uncommon. The horror of manifesting your power, it prompted another trigger."
"We found out second triggers aren't a real possibility," I said. "Formulas either. But if we want to do the second trigger thing, Contessa should be able to point the way. It could mean extra firepower, or buying time."
"She wasn't there?" Tattletale asked.
"I assumed she was with Khonsu."
So no Contessa didn't fail to path it, she wasn't there to try. Numberman thought she might have had two triggers at once, but even if she didn't couldn't guarantee a second trigger because Contessa wasn't there to run a path that would guarantee one."According to the attackers, she died," the Number Man said. "Mantellum's power was the rock to her scissors."
Google searchI swear one of these days I'm gonna just bookmark this, so one of the many times I have to dig it up I don't have to spend 1/2 an hour trying to find it again...
site:https://parahumans.wordpress.com/ "second trigger"
Except immediately after he said she's had a second trigger he states that it's "very possible" she had one, i.e he isn't actually certain. He also goes on to explain that without Contessa they can't actually be sure about if a second trigger is possible or not.Not only does he say that Taylor Second Triggered, he says dual-Triggers are common (well, "not uncommon"; a slight, but distinct difference).
No path, she encountered Mantellum who shut down her power and escaped by pure luck.I stand very corrected, I also wonder what path she was running that lead her to play dead.
Yes, but what was she running so that she disapeared between Mantellum and killing Taylor?No path, she encountered Mantellum who shut down her power and escaped by pure luck.
"Path to not getting taken over by Khepri."Yes, but what was she running so that she disapeared between Mantellum and killing Taylor?
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/worm-quotes-and-wog-repository.294448/page-20#post-44301909Except immediately after he said she's had a second trigger he states that it's "very possible" she had one, i.e he isn't actually certain. He also goes on to explain that without Contessa they can't actually be sure about if a second trigger is possible or not.
You do have a point about dual Trigers being "not uncommon", which I forgot and does make it more resonable to assume Taylor had one, but still doesn't make it definite she did in canon.
Wildbow said:
Does that convince you that Taylor actually Second Triggered in The Locker?Wildbow said:Second triggers aren't straight upgrades. Look at Grue's - he gained some power in one respect (fighting capes), but his cloud got a lot heavier and denser, tending to coalesce lower to the ground. Were post-S9 Grue to do the bank robbery job, he wouldn't be able to cover their retreat as effectively. Less effective vs. non-capes.
Two steps forward, yes, but one step back, or a half-step back. In other cases it could easily be unlocking a function but be one-step-forward, one-step-back.
I like terming Taylor's second trigger as a 1.5th trigger.
One of the magic systems is math-based, so... QA the magical math engine that can do literally anything because it found math?Does it really matter? The whole thing came out of a minor misunderstanding where someone read a comment about people around Taylor during the show possibly getting triggers from buds as whether Taylor might second trigger. Whether she did or can or not has no bearing on the actual question, and for the purposes of the fic she has the canon powers whatever trigger(s) they might have resulted from.
Since Taylor is planning to do the Magical Girl thing and is Taylor she probably will get enough new data in to have QA bud, and probably multiple times, which leads to the question of what the new powers might be. Canon had Aiden the bird-controller and WoG says Danny would have commanded rats if he's triggered instead of QA jumping to Taylor, but just changing what animals are affected is pretty dull past the first time, especially with a whole new paradigm for data to be collected with outright magical power in play. Obvious candidates include some or all of the things that can be controlled via remotes in the SL CYOA and emotion powers similar to what Taylor and presumably her MG team mate(s)/mentor/whatever will be using, possibly emotion control not unlike Cherie's as a counter to such abilities, and whatever power source the current MG villain are using, but what else might show up?
One of the magic systems is math-based, so... QA the magical math engine that can do literally anything because it found math?
Nanoha-style definitely does have artificial mana generators, though, and technologically controlled spell effects. If they're normally too big to carry around, well, they're not too big to be carried by a continent-sized shard like QA and dimensional fuckery to put the effect generated here onto the target there is standard operating procedure.It was mentioned to be Nanoha-style, which means even if the magic system is math based it still relies on a core for power. No core or source, no magic.
And if it wasn't possible to introduce said core into someone, Taylor probably wouldn't have been offered that.Nanoha-style definitely does have artificial mana generators, though, and technologically controlled spell effects. If they're normally too big to carry around, well, they're not too big to be carried by a continent-sized shard like QA and dimensional fuckery to put the effect generated here onto the target there is standard operating procedure.
"Path to avoid any of the case 53s", hoping that that would keep her out of range of Mentallum (who she can't path).Yes, but what was she running so that she disapeared between Mantellum and killing Taylor?
That works, my point was never that she didn't, just that it's never explicitly stated in canon.Wildbow talking about what Taylor's power would have been had she not Second Triggered.
Does that convince you that Taylor actually Second Triggered in The Locker?
Wait are they making a body for QA to talk through or an AI helper for Talyor?
whynotboth.gifWait are they making a body for QA to talk through or an AI helper for Talyor?
Proceeding from that, QA as a future SL contenderwhynotboth.gif
More seriously, all they'd need to do is intentionally insert a few bugs in the right part of the system and QA should easily be able to handle that through Taylor's powers if it became necessary or sufficiently desirable.
I know it's intended as comedy, but it looks like a lot of Taylor!Whump. Not very fond of that.
"Teraport" was also capitalized the first two times and lower case after that.It looks like the computer has finally finished going through the data on the taraport.
"Teraport" was also capitalized the first two times and lower case after that.
...I have qualms about how you wrote Hackerman, but if (as I somewhat suspect) he is only going to be in this one scene, they aren't really worth bringing up. Especially not with "I've already written a ways past this" in effect.
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You know, Taylor, getting squeamish about sex now, after just signing up to be a sex worker on a reality show for a year, is somewhat less that a brilliant idea. Might be a better idea to get a little experience now, unless you want your deflowering to be on live TV.Mina sucked in a breath in surprise. "That means I'll need to go with them and open the gate on the other planet as well. I'm not sure my reserves will be enough to handle that without recharging."
"Won't that require having sex?" Taylor asked, her face a bright red at the thought.
"Pretty much," Mina agreed. "If you aren't into it, I can help. A simple touch can have you raring to go."
"What?" Taylor asked in shock. "No, I…"
That is a very good point. On the other hand though how many contestants in a show called slut life do you think are still virgins at the start of the show? Losing her V card on air will probably make her rating skyrocket....You know, Taylor, getting squeamish about sex now, after just signing up to be a sex worker on a reality show for a year, is somewhat less that a brilliant idea. Might be a better idea to get a little experience now, unless you want your deflowering to be on live TV.
Surprised no one there suggested it, Cindy in particular given the recommendations she had for Taylor's actual run.