Fate/Knights of the Heroic Throne

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Lol, most uncanon thing here, Arturia Alter is a Tyrant in all regards, and that includes enjoying looking cute so she does it without shame.





Excalibur is a holy sword but doesn't have any major conceptual oomph on its actual beam attack, and that's intentional. Sefar was immune to Earth's concepts and that's why the gods couldn't meaningfully hurt it, since their Authorities failed against it. Without it, and also without the support of the deterrent force which multiplies the energy put through the sword, Excalibur is much less dangerous, possibly only on par with Caliburn.

I am fine either way with you changing it for your story mind you, but if the discussion is Fate Canon that's my 2 nickels

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Regarding Salter enjoying being cute, I didn't know that. I play FGO but it's on JP so my knowledge of the quirks of my character is based on wiki and my assumptions.

Yeah, from what I understand Excalibur is strong but conditionally OP, depending on the situation but sometimes I like it to be the pinnacle of human's will to survive—even if it's a fae artifact?

So in my mind Excalibur is the best sword a human could wield—despite Arturia having a dragon core. haha

What are your thoughts on Rhongomyniad vs Excalibur?

 

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Regarding Salter enjoying being cute, I didn't know that. I play FGO but it's on JP so my knowledge of the quirks of my character is based on wiki and my assumptions.

Yeah, from what I understand Excalibur is strong but conditionally OP, depending on the situation but sometimes I like it to be the pinnacle of human's will to survive—even if it's a fae artifact?

So in my mind Excalibur is the best sword a human could wield—despite Arturia having a dragon core. haha

What are your thoughts on Rhongomyniad vs Excalibur?

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Rhongonmyniad is generally stronger, as the Tower at the End of the World. It is literally a pillar of reality, and we know that another manifestation of if is potentially the strongest servant (Voyager, humanity's Foreigner to the cosmos). Just using it for long enough turned Artoria into a legitimate goddess, not just a divine spirit, long past the end of the Age of the Gods. It is on par with Ea as an ultimate conceptual weapon, with them basically doing the reverse of each other (Rhongomyniad anchors the reverse side to the World; Ea severs the heavens and the earth, or rather destroys the texture of the planet).

In terms of "no assistance from the Counter Force Excalibur", there is another sword that is its equal, the OG Caledbolg. The thing that makes Excalibur special is that it's the Sword of Promised Victory, a tap directly into the Counter Force allowing it to provide ridiculous amounts of dakka in the right circumstances, and, since it's just raw ether, you can't be immune to it by rejecting Gaia's concepts. Without it, it still is an insanely strong Noble Phantasm, but it's stupid op above all strength is literally tied up in NOT having special hax that can be countered by other hax.

For context of its full power, it took the entire Greek Pantheon's OG machine god bodies, the interstellar war machines that can toss around attacks equivalent to A-rank anti-army attacks like candy, joining together into one form and using raw force instead of their Authorities to beat Sefar and they still had casualties and almost lost. Excalibur's dakka beat Sefar by itself

 

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Rhongonmyniad is generally stronger, as the Tower at the End of the World. It is literally a pillar of reality, and we know that another manifestation of if is potentially the strongest servant (Voyager, humanity's Foreigner to the cosmos). Just using it for long enough turned Artoria into a legitimate goddess, not just a divine spirit, long past the end of the Age of the Gods. It is on par with Ea as an ultimate conceptual weapon, with them basically doing the reverse of each other (Rhongomyniad anchors the reverse side to the World; Ea severs the heavens and the earth, or rather destroys the texture of the planet).

In terms of "no assistance from the Counter Force Excalibur", there is another sword that is its equal, the OG Caledbolg. The thing that makes Excalibur special is that it's the Sword of Promised Victory, a tap directly into the Counter Force allowing it to provide ridiculous amounts of dakka in the right circumstances, and, since it's just raw ether, you can't be immune to it by rejecting Gaia's concepts. Without it, it still is an insanely strong Noble Phantasm, but it's stupid op above all strength is literally tied up in NOT having special hax that can be countered by other hax.

For context of its full power, it took the entire Greek Pantheon's OG machine god bodies, the interstellar war machines that can toss around attacks equivalent to A-rank anti-army attacks like candy, joining together into one form and using raw force instead of their Authorities to beat Sefar and they still had casualties and almost lost. Excalibur's dakka beat Sefar by itself

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I guess my understanding isn't that far off—well, at least I think so. Thanks for this!

 

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I guess my understanding isn't that far off—well, at least I think so. Thanks for this!

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Tbf, Fate is fucky as hell. I guarantee that you could find a justification for most things while keeping with Nasuverse logic

Also, sometimes you've gotta say "yeah, I'm changing power levels a bit to make the story more interesting", and as long as it isn't fully stupid (Artoria losing to pre-Clone Wars Anakin), imo it works

 

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Tbf, Fate is fucky as hell. I guarantee that you could find a justification for most things while keeping with Nasuverse logic

Also, sometimes you've gotta say "yeah, I'm changing power levels a bit to make the story more interesting", and as long as it isn't fully stupid (Artoria losing to pre-Clone Wars Anakin), imo it works

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Yeah, don't worry. Plus, I'm biased towards the nasuverse in general.

I hope my spelling of Arturia doesn't trigger anyone. In my mind since it's Arthur then Arturia makes more sense, of course I know it's because of Katakana, and using 'tsu' instead of 'to' doesn't make sense. haha

Whenever I see the Artoria spelling, for some reason, I imagine her spinning Excali-nir (Excalibur x Mjolnir) while sending bolts of lightning around. Now this sounds like a fun crack-fic to write.

 

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This'll be my upload schedule, without dates. But at least you'll know the upload order.

Generally, I upload every two to three days, unless work or life gets in the way. I'm trying to increase my speed and produce longer chapters, but so far, my mind fogs once the 2,000-word count looms for some reason.

Argh can't upload photos here and can't use google links to insert image.

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The earliest update is on the fourth picture, titled: 'Plus 1 Update Poll #12 Winner.' Of course, that's if this story wins the next poll. I have high hopes for it as it's my second most popular 'Side Story' next to Ending Maker: Fate Wizardry.​

 

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Yeah, don't worry. Plus, I'm biased towards the nasuverse in general.

I hope my spelling of Arturia doesn't trigger anyone. In my mind since it's Arthur then Arturia makes more sense, of course I know it's because of Katakana, and using 'tsu' instead of 'to' doesn't make sense. haha

Whenever I see the Artoria spelling, for some reason, I imagine her spinning Excali-nir (Excalibur x Mjolnir) while sending bolts of lightning around. Now this sounds like a fun crack-fic to write.

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As long as you don't refer to OG Artoria as Altria, idgaf. That retcon is dumb as hell.