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[X] Obviously Atalaya is lying. Make Kat a job offer, and then start planning how to take out the witch.
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Arkeus said:[] Obviously Atalaya is lying. Make Kat a job offer, and then start planning how to take out the witch.
Am i the only one REALLY confused by the wording of that sentence, given that 'planning how to take out the witch' is what people had also voted for how to kill Kat earlier?
Please tell me you mean 'planning how to kill Atalaya'.
DarkLight140 said:In exchange for this service, many votes are backing plotting to kill her. She does what we ask of her, and we turn around and murder her with a clean conscience because, hey, Dita says her magic is skeevy and a mostly-naked criminal says she's a demon worshiper. Note that we are currently buying Dita's story that accusations of demon worship can be and are used to frame magical types and get them killed by those who find them inconvenient.
I'd rather not tip off a potential necromancer that we're on to her. We'd be better off gathering information and trying to build a case for it then we would be up and telling them that. Not to mention I highly doubt Atalya will willingly let us get Kat as a sorceress and will cause us trouble because of it. Ultimately I'd rather we didn't tell her we got Kat on our side and gathered information from her reaction.So instead of making rash decisions and executing anyone, let's take measured, rational steps. Steps like telling both of them that we are in charge and while we consider ourselves a fairly magic-friendly lord, we will not be putting up with either murderous feuds or rampantly illegal things like mind control, necromancy, or demon worship. Opposition on that point can and will be crushed by ourselves, our retainers, our large numbers of soldiers, and if all else fails the witch hunters that we are quite capable of burning some political capital to send for. It's not an unreasonable stance to take. As long as they are willing to abide by that simple principle, they both get what they (presumably) want- the town's witch gets left alone and is well paid whenever we can use her services to our advantage, and the sorceress gets our political protection, such as it is, and a place to live and be appreciated.
While I'm fine with ignoring her sex appeal, why exactly are you so bothered about how she dresses? I'd rather we just leave her choice of attire to herself and only told her that if it were really necessary. Sorcerers are known to be a bit weird so it's not as if it's a normal human who's dressing that way which means people will take it differently.On the topic of sleeping with the sorceress, glad to see that everyone is 100% on board with ignoring her sex appeal. That one is a bundle of trouble that we don't need, whether it's potential mind control- she denies it, but really we only have her word on that since Dita explicitly told us that she wouldn't notice- or political issues. We already have two mistresses; Dita can try to score this one if she wants, I guess. But make her dress decently, honestly; I'd be embarrassed to be the lord employing someone wearing nothing more than what's shown in the image.
Because this is a patriarchal feudal state, not a liberal democracy.Malcolmo said:While I'm fine with ignoring her sex appeal, why exactly are you so bothered about how she dresses? I'd rather we just leave her choice of attire to herself and only told her that if it were really necessary. Sorcerers are known to be a bit weird so it's not as if it's a normal human who's dressing that way which means people will take it differently.
Hence 'Skivvy', though as far as we could tell this was neither "Summoning Demons" or "Mind Manipulation". I do believe that Atalya's probably out of bound, but we should 1°) give her the benefit of the doubt, 2°)give her a chance to stop doing any of the kill-order type magic and work for us.fitzgerald said:Forgetting the dark energies that clung to us or the way the air spirit was bound to the dousing tool?
Yeah, because she seemed to brook competition or censure so well, right? Frankly, I think you guys are being greedy and arrogant. My guess is that if Atalya realizes we're investigating her, she'll move to kill us. Period.Arkeus said:Hence 'Skivvy', though as far as we could tell this was neither "Summoning Demons" or "Mind Manipulation". I do believe that Atalya's probably out of bound, but we should 1°) give her the benefit of the doubt, 2°)give her a chance to stop doing any of the kill-order type magic and work for us.
Dark =/= evil.fitzgerald said:Forgetting the dark energies that clung to us or the way the air spirit was bound to the dousing tool?
As for proof of work reconsider the cave Kat made purely with magic
uju32 said:Dark =/= evil.
Again, I will repeat: You haven't seen her work.
"Ew." Dita steps back from the dowsing charm. "That's a nasty looking thing. There's a little air spirit trapped in it, but what a mean way to do it. It's like the poor thing is impaled on spikes."
You frown. Is that witchcraft, or just a brutal flavor of wizardry? From the little you know it could be either.
"Oh, there's something on you too," Dita goes on. "Little wisps of something black and smelly. I don't think its a spell, just residue from being exposed to a lot of the stuff. Hey, let me try something."
The 'cave' turns out to me more like a tunnel, leading thirty feet or so into the hillside before making an abrupt turn and opening out into a small room. The construction is all smooth, flat stone, with a tile floor and mosaics inlaid in the walls. A stone fireplace with a chimney provides heat and light, although the pile of wood stacked neatly next to it is rather small.
A raised stone platform covered with moss and leaves apparently serves as a bed, and there are a couple of other stones shaped into a small table and chair. But aside from stonework the possessions in the room are pretty damned meager. A tattered blanket, a few wooden utensils, a worn-looking hatchet, and a dented tin pot seems to be the sum of her worldly goods.
That statement of mine was referring to KAT's handiwork, which we have yet to see.fitzgerald said:
Yeah.So?fitzgerald said:Story Post:
Dita has the Blessings of Inovia, a Goddess dedicated to fighting evil. Dita specifically tells us the charm is using a particularly brutal method. Not to mention heavy residue of black unpleasant magical energy.
Assuming facts not in evidence.fitzgerald said:Story Post
A tunnel made out of smooth flat stone, a tile floor, decorated walls, fireplace and chimney.
Note the 'cave' is obviously made by Kat.
Again, so?fitzgerald said:Yet not a mention that the charm was made using a brutal method of binding the spirit.
ALLEGED Earth mage.fitzgerald said:As for the cave being found by Kat and not her making it?
Shes a noted Earth Mage. Prove she didnt make it.
Of course we have the right.Robotninja said:uju, you are being dumb here. There is more than enough circumstancial evidence, and investigating for more will tip her off and let her prepare nasty tricks. No witch lives to be old by leaving fucking obvious evidence saying "witch". It's the little things. Outright provable? No. Plausible? Yes. Lucky us, we are a feudal lord, we totally have the right to kill her based on plausible doubt. This is not a modern court system. We do not have a modern belief system. We do not believe in innocent until proven guilty.
Her story was very iffy anyways. Overall, the witch has a far greater chance of being a liar than the sorceress.
The legal term, I believe, is hearsay.fitzgerald said:Clap. Clap. Clap. Clap.
Thank you for ignoring every in game post thus far.
Kats creditentials have been mentioned several times already in thread. Even the witch has mentioned Kat has bloody powerful earth magic.