General World of Darkness Discussion Thread QQ Edition

[Skitzyfrenic]

well, guess I've still got the 20a of several different lines. Just keep using those.

It is a shame, 5th edition had some mechanics that worked pretty well, I think. The fluff was ... modernized and had it's flaws, but there was some nifty stuff in there too.

But this is some bullshit.

 

[Sailor Autochthonia]

I am pissed about Mage, they are going to fuck it up. They are going to depower and fucking turn it into some black and white bulshit!

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Mage has always been black and white. Sure, there's lipservice to some 'both sides'ing, but c'mon: smelly antivaxxers yelling at the sky and trying to kick the chair out from under reality itself, vs. the brave (& well groomed) heroes of the Union fighting to keep hot and cold running water and fresh out-of-season vegetables available for the masses. There's pretty clearly a correct choice.*

It'll be interesting to see what they do with M5/6, anyway. And if the totality isn't worth running, well, I can take what is and strap it to an older edition. We've got 30 years of good** content to work with. Paradox Dice, for example, seem like they'd be easy to do right, and add some fun tension beyond the wheel as it exists.

*this post contains one or more segments sponsored by The Syndicate, for the benefit of the Technocratic Union.

**definitions of good may vary by region, consult your doctor before using 1st or 20th edition lore. Void where prohibited. Mummy the Resurrection, Hunter the Reckoning, and Demon the Fallen fans need not apply. Cease use immediately if you develop side effects.

 

[gale]

Paradox Dice are horrible idea and is just shit thing to do to Mage.

I like the Union, fuck I been called a Union Fan boy for years. But I do not want clean white and black, that ruins the point of Mage. But they also have to be honest with Mage's history and bloodshed and what shit the older trads and their previous forms allowed. Just as you have to be honest that Union wiped out supernatural species and nations.

 

[shadowdice]

Has anyone ever read The Book of Fire? AKA Lucifer's book of claiming he did nothing wrong ever.

It is bizarre. When I read Lucifer talking about tribes of The Book, Dream, Middle Kingdom, Wealthy Land, and Skulls my first thought would be that he is talking about different splats.

Not Lucifer using it to describe Continents.

Lucifer: I guess i should combine the americas together, China's name will get applied to all of asia, Australia is dreams, Africa gets Skulls. And I guess I will talk about Noah with The Book, Europe eeeh I can skip that one.

Me: Why is Africa the Children of Skulls? I can vaguely understand the rest but why?

 

[Skitzyfrenic]

It is bizarre.

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Yes. It was a weird book.

 

[shadowdice]

Yes. It was a weird book.

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Mostly in account of weird grammar and White Wolf's bizarre choices

Me: Why do you phrase this in this way? Ancient societies knew that boats existed. Why did you go with multiple survivor populations and put them in these locations. Your word choice makes it worse!

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I posted an in universe reaction review in my snippets thread

 

[Maragas]

Mostly in account of weird grammar and White Wolf's bizarre choices

Me: Why do you phrase this in this way? Ancient societies knew that boats existed. Why did you go with multiple survivor populations and put them in these locations. Your word choice makes it worse!

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Also like, by Lucifer (and DTF) own account, mankind had multiple advanced kingdoms, split between Heaven and Fallen. With enough population to regularly get enslaved by Demons.
And only Fallen sided Human Kingdoms collapsed.

Where are all the remnants of those people?