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Glorious Linux Penguin Correspondence

Huh. Seems that my computer hates the manjaro iso I downloaded, literally went out and bought a brand new flash drive for the express purpose of making it a boot disk and the computer acts like there's nothing on it. Strange and annoying since I want to try manjaro out on a laptop I bought last year on the cheap to convert to Mint for my old job only to find out first hand what kind of a pain in the ass goofy uefi is. Gonna see if ipdating helps or try a different iso if that fails (don't really wanna do that since I like xfce so far). Any suggestions if those options fail?

Edit: Haha! I figured it out. It was bios/uefi that was screwing everything up. Stupid secureboot was being a pain in the rump and not accepting manjaro as a valid choice.

edit2: Well, I was going to make this post from now now functional laptop (Suck it, Microsoft!) but it's in the middle of updates that i've already slowed down enough seeking the solution to my problem. That being the name og the Gnome Software Center (obvious in hindsight) since for whatever reason the devs didn't see fit to include it in the spins of Fedora. Was gonna do manjaro, but the installer was being a pain, so I said screw it and now I'm fully operational again through the power of a very popular hat. It's nice to know that, if I really want to, I can pick up my entire computer and just go out somewhere else and work. Not completely sold on the Acer Aspire 3's overall design, but I got it for like half off, so I can't really complain now that it's functional without Fail 10 gumming up the works.
 
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So, I'm curious now if anybody knows anything about any upcoming/existing Linux tablets. The Librem 5 is looking good in the phone department, even if it's still on preorder (which I currently don't have the spare cash to do *pouts*), but I've been poking around trying to find ways to ditch the various proprietary hardware/software like android and iOS without losing the convenience. Purism looks to have that covered in the near future as far as phones go, but being able to do away with my ipad and replace it with something open source would be most satisfying.
 
As usual, something of a repost from the general games thread, but since it's Linux friendly I'm saying it here too. I've had Wizard of Legend on my wishlist for a while, and just grabbed it during the Steam sale. Extremely fun. Runs buttery smooth on Mint 19.2. Cinammon, and is a great game - though it does kinda require controllers if you play with a friend. M+KB is fine during single player, but is extremely frustrating in couch two-player (not sure how it operates when you connect online). Reason being that the mouse is static on the screen but when your friend moves the map by walking around it changes where your mouse is aimed, and your spells will miss or you'll dash into a pit.

It's a roguelite beat'em up. Where you are a wizard challenged to go take on a dungeon stuffed with summoned minions and then duel a member of the council of wizards. Do this three times in a row for special accolades. Upgrades and item drops found in the dungeon only persist for that run, but gems found in the dungeons can be used to buy permanent items to change your starting loadout. Dungeon runs are fast enough that they don't feel like a slog, and the gems make even bad runs gain you progress toward a permanent purchase. The fast paced action gameplay is great and fills a hole in my tactics-heavy games library for a great game to just pick up and wail on baddies when I feel like it.

It's $8.79 during the sale, totally worth it, even at full price it's a great game.
 
Man our community has a lot of geeks in it. Updated my system through Terminal and I noticed that two of the links to canonical (I'm trying out Pop!_OS for its game friendliness, it seems okay) were banjo. and kazooie. when my connection started lagging.
 
*has not taken sufficient SAN damage to even consider that one as an option yet.*
 
I've heard about NixOS, and I wonder if I should try it when I upgraded my computer in the future. Anyone has experience with it?
 
UrsaTempest said:
I've heard about NixOS, and I wonder if I should try it when I upgraded my computer in the future. Anyone has experience with it?
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A quick search shows that it was (as of 2018) a completely manual install through the terminal via the bootdisk. It does have a guide on the desktop to help you through, but it requires an active internet connection to display.
 
UrsaTempest said:
I've heard about NixOS, and I wonder if I should try it when I upgraded my computer in the future. Anyone has experience with it?
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I have no experience with it, but from a little research it looks like it's the kind of thing you install if you make a hobby of recreational sysadminery.
 
I've been using Lubuntu recently. Works like a charm and uses like no RAM. Based on Ubuntu but eh, it works and isn't bloated.
 
So, Windows, in their infinite wisdom, decided to install "a new great browser that we want you to use". Some Edge variant, trying to force me into a "getting started" tutorial requiring Task Manager to shut it down. It also started to ask me if I really want to use Chrome to open webpage.

Now, seven (almost eight) hours later the computer is running Linux Mint.
 
First trouble: apparently I have no permissions to create or edit files in one of my hard drives -_-

The recommended choice to erase the disk and install Linux didn't touch the second hard disk. Leaving the stuff on it, leaving permissions to Windows only?
 
Nekraa said:
First trouble: apparently I have no permissions to create or edit files in one of my hard drives -_-

The recommended choice to erase the disk and install Linux didn't touch the second hard disk. Leaving the stuff on it, leaving permissions to Windows only?
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Looks to be a decent video, if it doesn't have what you're looking for you might want to try a video on using LVM (mentioned in this video, but not touched on too much) or on manual installation which gives you by far the most control over your setup. Pretty sure either will owt you catch that pesky second drive (I've never had a computer with 2 hard disks so I can't say for sure one way or the other. #imacheapbastard #notmuchchoice #plssndwinninglottoticket
 
24caratcoal said:
Looks to be a decent video, if it doesn't have what you're looking for you might want to try a video on using LVM (mentioned in this video, but not touched on too much) or on manual installation which gives you by far the most control over your setup. Pretty sure either will owt you catch that pesky second drive (I've never had a computer with 2 hard disks so I can't say for sure one way or the other. #imacheapbastard #notmuchchoice #plssndwinninglottoticket
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? Video??
 
Nekraa said:
First trouble: apparently I have no permissions to create or edit files in one of my hard drives -_-

The recommended choice to erase the disk and install Linux didn't touch the second hard disk. Leaving the stuff on it, leaving permissions to Windows only?
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Linux doesn't interoperate seamlessly with Windows-created drives. You'll still be able to access the files if necessary, but you'll need to become superuser (i.e. 'sudo' on the command line).

In the long run, it's usually better to reformat the drive as Linux-native and copy the contents over.
 
alethiophile said:
Linux doesn't interoperate seamlessly with Windows-created drives. You'll still be able to access the files if necessary, but you'll need to become superuser (i.e. 'sudo' on the command line).

In the long run, it's usually better to reformat the drive as Linux-native and copy the contents over.
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Well, I had already copied the stuff to external hard drives (that's what took the majority of the time, the installation took... what, twenty minutes at most?).

But I seem to have solved it. After some googling and looking around I found a program Diskar (or Discs, in English I guess) which allowed me to delete the old partition on the hard disk and make a new one.
 
Nekraa said:
First trouble: apparently I have no permissions to create or edit files in one of my hard drives -_-

The recommended choice to erase the disk and install Linux didn't touch the second hard disk. Leaving the stuff on it, leaving permissions to Windows only?
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Hold up, boss. Did you disable hibernation in Windows first? Having a hibernation profile blocks editing that partition from any other operating system, even if you have the necessary permissions it will act like you don't.

If you ever decide you want a dual-boot setup, pop into Win10's command line…
Code: 
powercfg.exe /h off
…and tell it to fuck right off.

Edit: Oh, and in case you need a laugh- that new Edge browser? It's literally Microsoft-flavored Chrome. They gave up on Internet Explorer.
 
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Did I seriously forget to... fuck. Sorry, it was a long day and my brain is toast right now. Here it is.


also, in regards to GorgonEyed's post about the new Windows chrome flavor, the flavor for Linux is Chromium if that's what you want to use (most distros have Firefox installed by default though). It's not a bad browser, I just prefer firefox personally due to literally over a decade of usage with minimal problems, so I have a strong bias there.
 
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It's a chromium version compiled and changed by MS to work better with Windows.

It should perform better than google chrome does. Should.
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I for one find in hilarious that MS feels the need to rip off Linux because their own product failed to live up to their expectations so miserably. That said, I'm honestly kind of surprised that they had any expectations of better results when they basically just spray painted their digital turd of a built-in browser gold instead of scrapping the majority of it and just building it all the way back up from it's most basic frame to eliminate the miriad bugs that cropped up in the original. But that may just be me and my lack of "business logic".
 
24caratcoal said:
I for one find in hilarious that MS feels the need to rip off Linux because their own product failed to live up to their expectations so miserably. That said, I'm honestly kind of surprised that they had any expectations of better results when they basically just spray painted their digital turd of a built-in browser gold instead of scrapping the majority of it and just building it all the way back up from it's most basic frame to eliminate the miriad bugs that cropped up in the original. But that may just be me and my lack of "business logic".
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The goal of building based on Chromium is to reduce workload for the most part, building it almost from scratch would defeat the purpose.
 
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The goal of building based on Chromium is to reduce workload for the most part, building it almost from scratch would defeat the purpose.
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I know, and honestly I get that, but frankly it's just a business policy that irks me something awful. I was always taught to work hard no matter what I was doing, it doesn't matter what my job is, I give it my all every day. This is actually my primary reason for dropping Windows like a sack of flaming crap, it doesn't build off of the framework that it built up in previous editions, yes some of the core stuff is the same and the virtual mechanics function in much the same way, but MS doesn't look at the past versions and go "Okay, this worked here. This was buggy, but promising. This one nearly got us lynched, so we should at least put it on the back burner." They go "This is newer, bigger and buggier! I mean better! Yeah... better, that's what I meant." Don't get me wrong, Linux has it's fair share of failures and some of them have been absolutely spectacular in how bad they were, but at the core of it all is people working together to improve what's already there before making some cool new things for everyone in the sandbox to play with that actually work well in said sandbox.

Like I said, I get that Chromium is preexisting framework at this point, but honestly it kind of feels like plagiarism to me. But that's probably the biggest hazard of open source, sure anyone can use it, but that's the thing. Anyone can use it, even those just out to make a quick buck off it regardless of whether or not it was actually earned. Don't mind me though, I'm just feeling a bit pissy for no discernible reason right now and have the urge to make obscene gestures while telling various overpowered entities to go perform some anatomically impossible actions. Maybe I've just been exposed to too much stupid shit today. Yeah, that's probably it.

Heh, and now I'm wondering if I shouldn't write in Tux as the presidential candidate of my choice. I for one would welcome our new Penguin Overlord. /jk
 
24caratcoal said:
I for one find in hilarious that MS feels the need to rip off Linux because their own product failed to live up to their expectations so miserably. That said, I'm honestly kind of surprised that they had any expectations of better results when they basically just spray painted their digital turd of a built-in browser gold instead of scrapping the majority of it and just building it all the way back up from it's most basic frame to eliminate the miriad bugs that cropped up in the original. But that may just be me and my lack of "business logic".
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They did rebuild their browser. It was called Edge.
 
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They repainted their browser without fixing the underlying issues.
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The underlying issue is that client side scripting and other associated web standards have caused browsers to bloat up into massive privacy destroying, security breaking, OS within an OS blobs that only a major corporation can effectively create and maintain. Thus leading to the second browser monopoly of Chrome and Chrome derivatives. Microsoft isn't in any position to fix that problem.
 
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The underlying issue is that client side scripting and other associated web standards have caused browsers to bloat up into massive privacy destroying, security breaking, OS within an OS blobs that only a major corporation can effectively create and maintain. Thus leading to the second browser monopoly of Chrome and Chrome derivatives. Microsoft isn't in any position to fix that problem.
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They fixed everything they could.
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Alright, fair enough. I suppose it was my cynicism towards Windows kicking in and making it hard for me to believe that MS was actually willing to try to do something like that given my low opinion of their OS. Either way ot doesn't actually affect me personally since I use neither Windows or Chrome. Well, I mean, I use chromium from some HTML games that I enjoy, so I suppose congratulations are in order for Google for their continued ability to spy on my porn collection? I've long since come to terms with the fact that it's pretty easy for the internet to find out what you fap to and have given up caring in response...
 
So, I found a thing...
https://raspad.com/products/raspadv3
Once more I was probing the depths of the interwebs hoping to find a glimmer of someting resembling a penguin powered tablet and I stumbled upon this. It looks fairly promising and the price is pretty decent. A bit DIY, but this is a linux thread, so I suppose we're all kinda used to that anyway. It's not perfect and it's definitely on the bulky side for a tablet, but, hey, it's at least a start towards something to replace the proprietary tablets that we have to choose from at the moment.
 
24caratcoal said:
So, I found a thing...
https://raspad.com/products/raspadv3
Once more I was probing the depths of the interwebs hoping to find a glimmer of someting resembling a penguin powered tablet and I stumbled upon this. It looks fairly promising and the price is pretty decent. A bit DIY, but this is a linux thread, so I suppose we're all kinda used to that anyway. It's not perfect and it's definitely on the bulky side for a tablet, but, hey, it's at least a start towards something to replace the proprietary tablets that we have to choose from at the moment.
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So, for a bit of pondering, I decided to hunt down the stuff needed to make this thing work (oh, the hassle :V) and assembled it in an anonymous amazon cart to tally up the price.
For reference, a 2021, Gen 5 iPad Pro with 128Gb internal memory (and as far as I can tell, 8Gb ram) is $1,099 on Amazon.
Presuming you don't have Prime, I picked out:
A 1tb m.2 harddrive that reads up to 2,400Mb/s for $110
The RasPad 3.0 for $259 ($219 w/Prime)
and
A Raspberry Pi 4 Starter Kit w/8Gb ram for $120
Total Prime without prime: $489

That's a lotta tablet for a very reasonable price IMO.
 
24caratcoal said:
So, for a bit of pondering, I decided to hunt down the stuff needed to make this thing work (oh, the hassle :V) and assembled it in an anonymous amazon cart to tally up the price.
For reference, a 2021, Gen 5 iPad Pro with 128Gb internal memory (and as far as I can tell, 8Gb ram) is $1,099 on Amazon.
Presuming you don't have Prime, I picked out:
A 1tb m.2 harddrive that reads up to 2,400Mb/s for $110
The RasPad 3.0 for $259 ($219 w/Prime)
and
A Raspberry Pi 4 Starter Kit w/8Gb ram for $120
Total Prime without prime: $489

That's a lotta tablet for a very reasonable price IMO.
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It's bulkier, but that may not be an issue.

Does the Pi4 have WiFi and Bluetooth built in? If they're not already included, adding those will bump up the price some. Totally reasonable and doable, but has more hardware variation than having them built in, so I expect it would be more fiddly to get working.
 
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