Governor's Gambit - Star Wars SI into Imperial Governor

[Abba is the best]

Could the destruction of DS1 really be considered a war crime? Maybe under an imperial definition of "It's a crime to fight back" sort of way considering Alderaan and the impending destruction of the rebel base.

But I understand why he is so frustrated.

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Not in the slightest. It was the very definition of "valid military target".

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No it's not, as others have said, it's a military target. I would say that opposite is true that it is a crime and dereliction of duty and responsibility to destroy the genocide weapon actively in use.

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Technically in the original EU lore from the x wing novels we know the "death star" was classified as a military supporting mining station for imperial logistics... so kind of like targeting a military's non combatants, at least on paper.

Obviously it was realistically a valid military target... but for the sw equivalent of society and the courts of law, it would have been a war crime.

Also, we know that from the books during the Clone Wars, destruction of logistical space stations can be considered a war crime in star wars... like targeting a medical station for example, but none of the factions in star wars actually care enough about those things unless it's to use them as justification for themselves to commit more warcrimes back on the other factions.

 

[Roncatan]

Hi there folks! Little late of an update, but I wanted to get it out. Las has his freak out(dare I say, freak session~?) but has reaffirmed his goals and is on the right track. Hopefully. We'll see how it goes. I would've made this one earlier in the day, but I was busy debating whether or not to refund the Oblivion remaster. I eventually did, cause while it certainly looks very nice, and plays decent, I thought it was a proper remake. In one of the trailers it even says it has dark souls inspired combat, so I thought this was Bethesda remaking one of their older games with a more modern style, closed to Avowed than Skyrim, with some better elements to the combat, world, etc…

But I still have to go through a loading screen to enter a house. The AI is mid, and the combat feels clunky. Make no mistake, that Oblivion charm is clearly still there, but I have no nostalgia for it. I was born just a little over a year before the original release. So, I decided to refund. Not bad, but not my cup of tea.

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Regarding Oblivion remaster, what I understand they've done is that the game runs on the original engine, but at the same time, they're also using Unreal Engine 5 on top of it to change the look and feel, which is why it has the same bugs, loading times, and errors. A remaster to make money and not improve anything about the game.

If you want a good Oblivion remake, the Skyblivon mod for Skyrim: Special Edition (https://skyblivion.com/) will be released this year, 2025. They've been working on it for 13 years, and everything is built from scratch. This is probably why they rushed out the paid Oblivion remaster.

It's not worth paying for Oblivion remaster if you get Skyblivion remake this year.

 

[Mistroz]

excellent chapter.

 

[Yacov]

One is a general information lockdown. Any news or communications mentioning the Death Star that aren't Imperial are cut, news channels told to shutter their windows on these topics. I want the narrative under wraps for now.

The other thing I'm doing is monitoring official(and unofficial) Imperial channels. I don't know how the greater Empire is handling this, and I want my story to line up at least somewhat with the greater narrative.

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Good luck with that Las. I don't think even the Empire has a consistent story lined up yet. Most people are probably still in the shock and grief phase.

All of this was supposed to occur before Luke became a war criminal. Now, farmboy did a Hiroshima and I'm stuck dealing with an Empire that would investigate my death with a fine toothed comb. I can't hide from that.

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Las assuming the worst case scenario for his plots in his little corner in the galaxy when the Empire has a much bigger Death Star sized problem to deal with.

With the start of the Galactic Civil War, rebel cells around the galaxy would start rising up for real. That means that the rebel free life I've lived may very well come to an end.

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I for one welcome the first rebels who try to start things in Las' territory.

So, I need to ensure that people like living here. That means keeping the populace happy.

I could probably explain the high alien population thing away pretty easily, but production is another matter. I was originally going to introduce new, harsher schedules to increase production enough to meet any new quotas without too much overworking, but that would still cause a low level simmer.

Which would compound over the 4 years before the Empire falls. I would much rather take on a set 50% to 70% percent risk now then live with a 10-20% risk for the next four years. I haven't really done the math, but it seems the worse deal.

Therefore, to increase production, I'm going to have to have new resource extraction lines opened, which is going to suck major balls. Cause with the DS2 slated to start construction sooner rather than later, resources and the means to produce them will be dried up.

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Best Governor Las: "Should I be harsher on my citizens? No, my government shall eat the costs and open inevitably wildly profitable resource production once the shortages hit."

 

[LordEdric]

I think the Empire hid the cost of the DS2 the same way a lot of places hide expenses. They kept their budget the same. Think of how much money was spent on the DS1 and how they had been building it for over a decade to begin with. I'm sure a lot of the time was setting up new mines and refineries to feed the construction. For the DS2, a lot of the infrastructure needed was already in place, they just kept the military budget for last 10 years with some lines about military mining logistics and no one noticed.

One more thing, as both in Disney and legends, Palpatine funded back up bases and super weapons during the construction of the DS1. Like clones, hidden worlds, weapon of mass destruction and dark side thingys. the only difference from the movies was the book Palpatine was ready to come back in a few years a few different ways, and the main characters didn't have their "character" murdered first.

So Las is going to have a bit of a surplus ready for when everything collapses.

Now, just need to know, how many of Palpatine's return from the death and hidden super weapons will our boy be a part of.

 

[ReluctantCrusader]

Technically in the original EU lore from the x wing novels we know the "death star" was classified as a military supporting mining station for imperial logistics... so kind of like targeting a military's non combatants, at least on paper.

Obviously it was realistically a valid military target... but for the sw equivalent of society and the courts of law, it would have been a war crime.

Also, we know that from the books during the Clone Wars, destruction of logistical space stations can be considered a war crime in star wars... like targeting a medical station for example, but none of the factions in star wars actually care enough about those things unless it's to use them as justification for themselves to commit more warcrimes back on the other factions.

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Do we have a codified star wars document for the laws of war? Under our laws, it is war crime to commit perfidy and any weapons used offensively strips such a place of protections and makes it a valid military target as a combatant. If the original SW timeline holds, that has already been breached by the use of the Death Star on Alderaan and arguably the turrets outfitted to the Death Star also qualifies it as a combatant.

 

[Abramus5250]

I think the Empire hid the cost of the DS2 the same way a lot of places hide expenses. They kept their budget the same. Think of how much money was spent on the DS1 and how they had been building it for over a decade to begin with. I'm sure a lot of the time was setting up new mines and refineries to feed the construction. For the DS2, a lot of the infrastructure needed was already in place, they just kept the military budget for last 10 years with some lines about military mining logistics and no one noticed.

One more thing, as both in Disney and legends, Palpatine funded back up bases and super weapons during the construction of the DS1. Like clones, hidden worlds, weapon of mass destruction and dark side thingys. the only difference from the movies was the book Palpatine was ready to come back in a few years a few different ways, and the main characters didn't have their "character" murdered first.

So Las is going to have a bit of a surplus ready for when everything collapses.

Now, just need to know, how many of Palpatine's return from the death and hidden super weapons will our boy be a part of.

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The other superweapons I can immediately think of are the Sun Crusher, Eye of Palpatine, the Eclipse, and maybe the plans for things like World Devastators and the Galaxy Gun. The former can and will be problems eventually, and this isn't counting all those super star destroyers that I would definitely count as superweapons.

Obviously we're not including the Shawken Device because that is so ludicrous it bypasses dumb and becomes full Simple Jack.

 

[Lolth]

I'm sure the Imperial military budget will see some fairly drastic changes,

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No it won't. The Empire built one already and the rebels just freed up 1.5 million pay packets to be spent on DS2.

(4,000 credits * 1.5 million imperial personnel = 6 billion credits. And there's people on the DS who probably get payed a lot more than 4,000 credits.)

 

[War Sage]

Damn, while everyone else in the Empire is frozen in shock Las is making all these preparations, that's gonna get some attention of other Imperials.

Would the Worldcarfts count as a superweapon or just a mega projects?

 

[Abba is the best]

Do we have a codified star wars document for the laws of war? Under our laws, it is war crime to commit perfidy and any weapons used offensively strips such a place of protections and makes it a valid military target as a combatant. If the original SW timeline holds, that has already been breached by the use of the Death Star on Alderaan and arguably the turrets outfitted to the Death Star also qualifies it as a combatant.

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I mean, sure if we are using our irl definitions, but since we are talking about an in universe perspective and we don't actually have a document like you said, we got to use what we have which in this case are similar examples or situations where something was called a warcrime... which is why I used the examples I remembered about in one of the clone wars books, though I honestly cannot remember which one it is.

Logically you would be right, but we just don't know. What we do know is that all the largest factions in star wars are hypocritical enough to commit warcrimes whenever they want, claim they are not warcrimes, and then still be outraged whenever their enemies commit warcrimes back... so I personally think the empire would call the destruction of the death star a warcrime, but that's just my interpretation

 

[Watching]

Could the destruction of DS1 really be considered a war crime? Maybe under an imperial definition of "It's a crime to fight back" sort of way considering Alderaan and the impending destruction of the rebel base.

But I understand why he is so frustrated.

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Nope, not a war crime. That mobile space battle station blew up a densely populated planet and was on its way to blow up a few more afterward.

 

[Aeroeng]

densely populated planet

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I will point out it only had a population of 2 billion, so not that densely populated. While the death star had 1-2 million people on it.

 

[Asharzal]

So is Mother Mola dead? Because as someone already pointed out, as one of Tarkin's more loyal minions she might have been on the Death Star. Las also still has to meet his final sister, namely the ISD captain. Maybe she will get deployed near his system, or might opt to go there on her own once the Empire breaks apart after Endor.

 

[Psyckosama]

The Spy likes her boss and decided not to kill him for knowing she is a spy. This is good.

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Also, boss likes his spy and decided not to kill her for being a spy. This is good.

 

[MorbiIIionaire]

He knew. And he did nothing. No, that's not wrong.

He knew, and he trusted her. She allowed the slightest of smiles to cross her face. This one would certainly be of interest to the Ascendancy. Regardless.

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The plot THICCens!! When bro is not busy being afraid of his mother, he sure does have his cool moments lol.

 

[NavigatorNobilis]

The Spy likes her boss and decided not to kill him for knowing she is a spy. This is good.

Also maybe Mama Molas is dead? I mean she was a Tarkin Minion so most likely she was on the Death Star and went Kaput.

Or not, looking forward to the next chapter

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Spy just discovered that her perfect cover failed, and she has absolutely no idea why or when - yet, her boss apparently didn't mind. And, indeed, kept the fact that he knew to himself, up until this moment - where he calls in the favour she didn't even know she owed him.

Game recognises game, and clearly she's working for one of the very best!

 

[CanYouMeme]

Could the destruction of DS1 really be considered a war crime?

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Discussions about war crimes in fiction are hindered a lot by the same problems vs debates are; nobody's interested in judging what's an actual objective crime/action/statistic, they're just butchering half remembered ideas to pull one over on the other guy.

In other words, they're here to wank and they won't take no for an answer.

Both DS1 & 2, and Star Trek DS9 Sisko suffer from this.

 

[Lokabrenna]

Technically in the original EU lore from the x wing novels we know the "death star" was classified as a military supporting mining station for imperial logistics... so kind of like targeting a military's non combatants, at least on paper.

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Not exactly. From what I remember, the Death Star was re-classified as a mining station after the fact by the Imperial Propaganda Bureau, to fit the narrative they spun about how Rebels supposedly hijacked the peaceful DS-1 mining station to blow up a Core World in an act of terrorism, a plot that was supposedly foiled by Grand Moff Tarkin, who gave his life in heroic sacrifice to stop the Rebel scum and deny them their new terror weapon. No one really bought it, especially among the Imperial military, where the upper ranks had mostly been read-in on the new weapon before it got blown up. Plus, the Rebels beat the Empire to the punch in the propaganda war, broadcasting the station's destruction and telling the truth about what it was and what it did. Because in that case, everyone knew that the Rebel account of things was far more believable than the Imperial one, given what everyone knew about Tarkin and general Imperial doctrine when it came to suppressing rebellion.

EDIT: After looking into it a bit more, the lore is (unsurprisingly) actually pretty inconsistent on this point. One version says more or less what I did above, but others claim things like Imperial propaganda acknowledging that it was a military station, but downplaying the significance of its destruction, or even that Tarkin went rogue and destroyed Alderaan without authorization. So I guess for the purposes of this story, whatever version OP likes best would work, because even the official lore can't agree on how the Death Star was classified and what exactly the Empire's response to its destruction was.

 

[OrderedOrb]

Regarding Oblivion remaster, what I understand they've done is that the game runs on the original engine, but at the same time, they're also using Unreal Engine 5 on top of it to change the look and feel, which is why it has the same bugs, loading times, and errors. A remaster to make money and not improve anything about the game.

If you want a good Oblivion remake, the Skyblivon mod for Skyrim: Special Edition (https://skyblivion.com/) will be released this year, 2025. They've been working on it for 13 years, and everything is built from scratch. This is probably why they rushed out the paid Oblivion remaster.

It's not worth paying for Oblivion remaster if you get Skyblivion remake this year.

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Screw Skyblivion, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Skywind.

 

[OrderedOrb]

The other superweapons I can immediately think of are the Sun Crusher, Eye of Palpatine, the Eclipse, and maybe the plans for things like World Devastators and the Galaxy Gun. The former can and will be problems eventually, and this isn't counting all those super star destroyers that I would definitely count as superweapons.

Obviously we're not including the Shawken Device because that is so ludicrous it bypasses dumb and becomes full Simple Jack.

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Every time I hear about the Shawken Device it makes my mind implode from the sheer stupidity. Why in the HELL would you want to initiate another Big Bang? The Death Star is already wildly impractical in general, but at least it ONLY blows up a single planet at a time, what's the point of the Shawken Device for anything beyond dick measuring?

 

[LordEdric]

Shawken Device is from comics, of course it's over top dumb.

The only super weapons I like, are the Eclipse( anti capital gun) and the sun crusher (the armor, the missiles are excessive)

 

[AmericanNumbers]

So I just speed read this story and I love it.
This last chapter kinda crystallized something though.
The OC would crush Las' mom into a fine paste. He's already shown that he gives very little emotional weight to Las family or previous connections and he absolutely dogwalks her in every possible category. She's a subordinate of Tarkin who absolutely will be getting the scapegoat treatment. So she's a jumped up Imperial officer with a deceased and disgraced backer. He's a successful Imperial Governor with both connections and wildly needed resources without getting into his R&D department with proven prototypes in the middle of a shooting war. Oh and he has 2 force users at his beck and call and a loyal fleet.

I can't imagine the OC in any real way treating the mom when she shows as any thing more than someone he absolutely outgrew.

 

[soulreaper22]

No, right now, she saw the same man who executed that Rodian through the painting in one fell swoop.

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It wasn't a Rodian but a Duros

Chp-30: Meetings

"Behind the painting, there's someone who shouldn't be there. Deal with them." I say, nodding my head towards the painting while I holster my blaster.

They comply, dragging out the body of a duros. They were equipped with a scattergun, clearly hoping to deal with me up close and personal.

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[OrderedOrb]

Shawken Device is from comics, of course it's over top dumb.

The only super weapons I like, are the Eclipse( anti capital gun) and the sun crusher (the armor, the missiles are excessive)

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Personally, my 3 favorite superweapons are:

1 - The Star Forge: Any logisticians wet dream. Park it next to a star and it sucks up matter and energy to shit out infinite war materiel in weapons, droids and ships. Possession of JUST this allowed Malak to brute force the Republic Navy without any need tor strategy.

2 - The Gravestone: A ship that does the equivalent of Force Lightning in SPACE. This thing can destroy whole fleets with one shot, which I find FAR more practical that destroying a planet.

3 - Hyperspace Nullifier: Probably the most broken yet understated of them all. The ENTIRETY of galactic society from economics to communication to industry to projection of military force relies on travel through hyperspace. With this you could make invasion against you impossible by erasing the ability to travel along hyperspace lanes. You could make it impossible for military forces to provide reinforcements to a planetary siege, you could lock down a whole system and starve them into surrendur. With anything else you'd need to expend resources, but with this you wouldn't even need to fire a single shot.

 

[Xintax]

Personally, my 3 favorite superweapons are:

3 - Hyperspace Nullifier: Probably the most broken yet understated of them all. The ENTIRETY of glactic society from economics to communjcation to industry to projection of military fkrce relies on travel fhrough hyperspace. With this you could make invasion against you impossible by erasing the ability to travel along hyperspace lanes. You could make it impossible for military forces to provide reinforcements to a planetary siege, you could llck down a whole system and starve them into surrendur. With anything else you'd need to expend rezourcez, but sith this you wouldn't even need to fire a single shot.

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Holy shit that's terrifying just taking out Courascant would be an incredible advantage the city would starve itself in weeks and tear itself apart while blocking off half of the galaxy from directly accessing the other half forcing them to go through the outer rim routes which aren't well mapped and filled with pirates....like unironically given how fucked up courascant is as a planet it would be a tremendous boon for this to be done periodically to both purge the city and keep things at a reasonable level population wise and to remind the core of why they need to keep peace in the outer rim and how dawn dependent upon them they really are.

 

[OrderedOrb]

Holy shit that's terrifying just taking out Courascant would be an incredible advantage the city would starve itself in weeks and tear itself apart while blocking off half of the galaxy from directly accessing the other half forcing them to go through the outer rim routes which aren't well mapped and filled with pirates....like unironically given how fucked up courascant is as a planet it would be a tremendous boon for this to be done periodically to both purge the city and keep things at a reasonable level population wise and to remind the core of why they need to keep peace in the outer rim and how dawn dependent upon them they really are.

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I know, right? Hell, locking down Coruscant alone would easily cause the Republic and ESPECIALLY the Empire to basically collapse. All the major power is on Coruscant in terms of political leadership, and Coruscant itself is dependent on MASSIVE and daily shipments of foodstuffs to feed its population. Lock it down for a month and the entirety of its leadership would willingly bend itself over a table for you.

In retrospect, it kinda makes the sheer arrogance of that guy boasting about the Death Star all the more ridiculous. A moon sized gun like that is PALTRY before the ability to completely control hyperspace. Hell, without Hyperspace travel to reach target planets the Death Star would basically just be an empty threat.

 

[Fayr]

At this point, he should just get into contact with the local mindan rebel cell and make a deal with em. Every rebel in the galaxy is itching to shoot imperials right now.

 

[War Sage]

At this point, he should just get into contact with the local mindan rebel cell and make a deal with em. Every rebel in the galaxy is itching to shoot imperials right now.

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For what?

They are already trying to keep other rebel cells in line and if some rebels want to take a shot at Las there not much they can do without killing them and killing fellow Rebels would not go well.

Also depending if the NR leans legends or canon Las and the Imperials under his command are not looking at a great time.

 

[swtoring]

killing fellow Rebels would not go well.

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Didn't the Rebel Alliance lead the isb and such to the more radical cells (of the alliance and outside the alliance) so they could get rid of them without getting their hands dirty so that the politicians wouldn't be stonewalled by headstrong leaders?

 

[War Sage]

Didn't the Rebel Alliance lead the isb and such to the more radical cells (of the alliance and outside the alliance) so they could get rid of them without getting their hands dirty so that the politicians wouldn't be stonewalled by headstrong leaders?

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Depends on the cell or they just ignored them, but with the Galactic Civil war now in swing they can't afford such activities as with the Empire ramping their activities as they are pooling resources not just the Imperial military, but other groups like the ISB and Imperial Intelligence.

You add after after the Destruction of the Death Star not only are many many more people willing to sign up with the Rebellion, but it's likey independent Rebel groups and networks may end up forming on there own, with the Rebellion itself going the the offensive across with several worlds systemes with some worlds openly joining them only to later get occupied.

Add that Garm Iblis and his group splinting off to form there own group due to disagreements with Mothma.

It honestly wouldn't be a shocked if the Rebels in Minda are ordered to sabotage resource production or storage and if they refuse another cell may be sent to do it instead.