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I agree that her image would suffer. But she'll drag at least two regional departments down with her, first because she was their responsibility and they screwed so bad that she became a villain whose focus is to damage the PRT/Protectorate as much as she can rather than other type of crimes.

Then there's the fact that Taylor is literally untouchable. The humiliation of seeing her do a ruckus in the middle of a PR event, tell some uncomfortable truths to gathered media and fans and then leave while both troopers and capes throw everything at her without effect and without her actually doing anything to escalate to physical violence would be hard and painful to spin. It would also be terrible for morale, especially for the Wards of either Boston or BB (for different reasons of course).

If any investigative reporter do try to confirm Taylor Hebert accusations and talk to Winslow students who will confirm a lot of rumors, and Taylor's father who will be very hard to keep quiet about this mess. Maybe not to the point of countering her villain status, but it will paint at least two other Wards as de facto villains and will force to dedicate a lot of time and effort to prove that the ENE region Ward Program isn't rotted to the core, probably by culling some of the adult personnel and nailing them in public.

And there's the fact that Taylor is the kind of person that will be doing vigilante work between sabotaging the PRT's PR Department, and knowing her she will be surprisingly effective at it, undermining her official status as a villain and forcing the PR Department to issue a lot of statements.

There're also the internal politics of the National PRT/Protectorate with the YG. Two different Ward teams will be in absolute disarray and with the Young Guard looking for blood since a non-criminal Ward becoming a criminal will raise a lot of complaints, plus those directors who pestered Kamil to deal with Phase ASAP will definitely smell the blood and add more pressure to an already painful headache.

As a criminal ex-ward actively acting against the PRT Watchdog will be crying for blood since Phase Stranger power is legitimately scary for them, especially if she ends working for Accord or another high level Thinker. So both Boston and BB will be under a lot of pressure to arrest her and bring her to justice, but I cannot think of a power capable of incapacitating her in either office, which means external support, and that will require haggling and expending political capital since with her Thinker/Stranger combo anyone lended to the heroes will need to stay for a while since finding Taylor for a quick grab is virtually impossible.

While I doubt either director is at risk of being fired I expect that the whole debacle will have the Protectorate and PRT supervisors for both Wards teams demoted, the team leaders careers stalled and many attempts to poach the Wards for different departments.

So while a villain declaration would definitely make people distrustful of Taylor and less willing to think of her as an innocent victim it still makes the life of both Boston and BB a lot harder.
 
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What is the image that first pops into someone's head at the term villain.
That depends on what their view of the government in general and the PRT in particular is. It could be anywhere from "evil mass-murderer" to "some poor bastard being screwed over by the PRT". While the extremes are not very likely, we don't know how much the culture leans one way or the other, especially not when there are villains famous for fighting the Endbringers.
Probably a more nuanced mix of the two like in real life when regarding the government.
Agreed.
 
Then there's the fact that Taylor is literally untouchable.
As far as most people know Taylor is untouchable but as her second attempt at vigilante work and first villain fight shows it isn't perfect since if it was she would not have been knocked out. Also the fact that the Protectorate was there for that mess means they also know this fact and have something to go off of when developing counter measures for her. Something that is constantly hammered home in Worm is that no power is perfect and they can be worked around or exploited and the PRT/Protectorate are very experienced in doing exactly that. That and Taylor doesn't have any support or allies at the moment and will be opening putting herself up against the PRT which can very easily drive away potential allies. No rogue wants to fight the government and other gangs wouldn't want the additional heat, Lisa certainly wouldn't if she could help it.

Of course for the other stuff only comes into play if Taylor decides to become an open cape in addition to becoming a villain which is a big if.
some poor bastard being screwed over by the PRT
Don't think that it is public or even common knowledge that this happens. After the Noelle incident then yeah I can see it but before that I don't think the Protectorate had such a reputation.
 
Don't think that it is public or even common knowledge that this happens. After the Noelle incident then yeah I can see it but before that I don't think the Protectorate had such a reputation.
That extreme? No, probably not, although as noted in some stories it is common knowledge.
However I find it extremely unlikely people aren't aware the PRT sometimes screws people over through no fault of the victims - they might be assuming it's due to bureaucratic rules, or mistakes, or one particular (low level) bad apple, but they'd know it can happen.

More importantly, while people viewing the PRT in such an extreme negative view that when the PRT labels someone villain it actually makes most people more likely to trust them is extremely far-fetched and ridiculous...so is their depiction in this story.
 
Omake: Theoretically Legal New
@FirstSelector Another omake for the pile :) Sorry for committing the worm heresy of showing Emma in a semi-decent light lol.


"Today is the day. It's going to be a good day, I just know it! Hopefully Phas…Taylor will be in a really good mood when we meet and she won't punch me in the face on sight..." Emma fretted to herself as she marched towards Taylor's apartment block in downtown Boston.

She was wearing an entire new wardrobe just for the occasion and she spent hours getting her makeup just right. Her new haircut was perfect, her bottle of "please forgive me" tinkertech super wine was carried carefully in her arms, and her posture was as inviting as she could get it after absorbing advice from a PR posture coach in the Protectorate headquarters.

Seriously, just act friendly to a guy and almost every time they will happily eat out of the palm of her hand. The man was so delighted to give her advice when she asked that she almost got embarrassed for his sake.

Emma liked men most of the time but sometimes they could just be, ugh.

What was she thinking about again? Oh yeah, getting Tay back into her life. No biggie.

Technically, she was pretty sure Weld and the PRT would not be happy if they found out what she was trying to do, but her 6 months of probation ended just yesterday so theoretically she wasn't doing anything illegal. Probably. Hopefully?

Everyone in her new job was pretty firm that Ampere was not to have any contact with Phase unless lives were in danger and even she couldn't help but agree that it was probably for the best…

However, what if a young part-time fashion model from Brockton Bay just happened to want to make amends with a former best friend that also happened to be in Boston?

If Emma was being honest with herself, which was something she still struggled doing even now, she knew the excuse of meeting Taylor in their civilian identities was not going to fly with the Protectorate if they got word of this.

She was really hoping that Taylor wouldn't report her.

Hey, it's not like she hasn't done anything for Taylor after getting out of juvie. She paid good money to get Auntie Annettes's flute found, fixed and shipped to Taylor. The restoration Tinker she hired was not cheap!

She even made sure to call Taylor's useless father just to confirm that her former best-friend did receive the package. Apparently, from what he observed, Taylor didn't really react much outwardly but stared at the flute for a long time and then went on patrol with her teammates without saying anything.

Emma couldn't tell if that was a good reaction or not. She did indeed keep the flute and Daniel seemed happy about it so…yay?

It had to count for something. She'll take anything at this point.

She finally regained her bearings and stopped in front of the lobby of the resident block her sources told her Taylor was living in. Shiny wood paneling and pleasing red bricks dominated the facade of the apartment with marble flooring finishing the display. It looked nice and spacious like everything else in the neighborhood.

It was kind of obvious that the Heberts were much better off financially now than back in the Bay.

Emma stood still and took deep breaths as she rehearsed her lines for what she was going to say.

"Hi Tay! It's me, Ems! I know we drifted apart since high school, but I just happened to be in the neighborhood and I thought it would be nice to stop by to chat. What do you say? What, you don't want to talk to me because I'm a psychotic bitch that emotionally tormented you for two years then almost killed you with a deadly prank? Pshaw, that was nearly three years ago Taylor, let's give our relationship another shot!"





That was not going to work.

Emma covered her face with her hands and groaned in misery. This was going to be a disaster. What the fuck was she thinking?

She decided to sit down on a nearby bench because she suspected coming up with a decent opener was going to take a while.

"Well Taylor, the thing is is that Sophia kinda lost interest in me and she hasn't responded to any of my texts in 2 months. Since she apparently ghosted me, the position for being best friend's with Emma Barnes is now up for grabs! What do you say? What, you already were my best friend since we were in preschool and then I tossed you aside like a bag of dogshit when you got back from nature camp and then I tried my best to ruin your life until you triggered? Oh come on Taylor, you should stop focusing on the negatives all the time! Everything will go great this time if you come back to me!"



Holy shit that was even worse. For fuck's sake Emma, get your shit together!

The redhead rubbed her forehead in agitation - carefully of course because she didn't want to ruin her makeup.

Okay, looks like she was going to have to bring out the big guns. She would do something completely unprecedented, something no one would ever suspect.

She was going to be honest.

She started taking deeper breaths and she braced herself for what she was about to do.

"Taylor, I don't have any friends. Everyone in the Protectorate either sees me as a useful tool to exploit or a total nutcase that they have to tolerate. My ward teammates from Brockton…the ones still alive anyway, don't like being around me. Sophia thinks I'm boring and dumped me as her confidant. I stopped talking to Madison and the other girls from Winslow years ago. Anne still loves me but after she found out about the locker our relationship hasn't…been the same…"

Her eyes were getting wet and her nose was running. Fucking shit, her makeup! Emma forgot to bring her handkerchief so she had to sloppily use her hands to forestall the damage her tears were enacting.

"Taylor…Tay…Please take me back. I know I don't deserve it and you can do way better than me but…I don't have anyone else to go to! Please take me back! I'll do anything you ask!"

"Stop crying already, people are staring at you." Taylor muttered grumpily as she awkwardly held a napkin towards Emma's direction.

Emma screamed and jumped at least a foot into the air.

Taylor didn't react to Emma's totally heroic screech. Based on her sullen expression as she sat next to the part-time model, she really wanted her ex-best friend to take the fucking piece of paper already.

The redhead took it and Taylor sighed in relief because now she could go back to not looking at her uninvited companion. Emma wiped away her tears with as much dignity as she could muster - which is to say not a lot.

"Um, Hi Taylor! How are you doing?" Emma verbally vomited out in pure panic.

"I'm fine." She replied emotionlessly. "I was going to go out shopping for groceries and I saw you sitting here on the way out."

"That's great! I'm glad to hear you're fine Taylor!"

"Hm."

"Did you do anything with your hair recently? It looks great!"

"Thanks."

"Isn't the weather great today? I love the sunshine!"

"Hm."

Their reunion just started and it was already a fucking trainwreck.

'Wait, how long was Taylor sitting next to me?' Emma thought to herself.

"Um Taylor…" Emma started with mounting dread. "How long have you been…"

"A few seconds after you sat. You really should improve your environmental awareness."

"...Oh."

Taylor leaned against the bench and sighed out loud. "Did Hess really ghost you?"

"I-I mean, I…I don't know for sure but I suspect it? She's definitely still active and not doing any classified work as far as I can tell. She just doesn't…reply to anything I send her…"

"Hm. Well, If she did ghost you and didn't even bother to tell you why then she's a bitch."

"I-I mean I'm not sure I would go that far…"

Taylor glanced at Emma with anger growing on her face. Oh shit, bad call.

"What I meant to say was yes! She is a total bitch! The queen of bitches! Please don't leave."

Taylor continued to look at Emma with an unidentifiable expression on her face. "What do you want, Emma?"

"...I want a lot of things Taylor. But for now, drinking some very expensive wine with you is my primary goal." Emma replied as calmly as she could.

Taylor's eyes narrowed with intense suspicion. Oh no.

'Oh shit you're losing her. Reel her back in!' Emma thought to herself in panic.

"It's not normal wine! It's a 'reverse century super vintage' made by Ambrosia!" Emma almost shouted out in desperation as she tapped on the bottle's seal.

Taylor's anger seemed to recede slightly as she rubbed her chin. "Ambrosia? Isn't he that culinary French tinker from the EU's Paladin Order?"

Emma sighed in relief.

"Yeah, the very same. He visited New York recently as part of a diplomatic conference and donated a hundred bottles as part of a gifting exchange. I barely managed to get one and…I thought about you and…well…here I am."

"How much does his wine normally cost?" Taylor eventually replied after a moment's silence.

"Usually it's fifty thousand dollars a bottle."

"Wow, and you want to share it with little old me instead of bragging about it to all your sycophants on Capebook?"

Emma took some deep breaths. "Taylor, seeing you having fun is worth more to me than anything else in the world right now."

The quiet cape just stared back at Emma with her customary emotionless face. Silence reigned. Emma started to sweat in growing fear of being rejected.

Suddenly, Taylor let out a big sigh and stood up. "Fine, let's go inside."

As far as Emma was concerned, a light from heaven was now shining down on Taylor and her. This was officially the happiest day of her life in Boston.

"A-Are we…cool Taylor?" She asked quietly with badly restrained excitement.

Taylor snorted rudely. "Absolutely not." Emma wilted. That wasn't what she wanted to hear, but it was still fair she supposed.

The tall woman rubbed her hair in muted frustration at Emma's reaction. "Look Emma, it's - look, I'm willing to admit that you're…not the same girl that I knew in high school."

Emma held her breath as she used all her senses to comprehend every word that came out of Taylor's mouth.

"You're a hero now and you've been doing good work. I can respect that. You earned your hero credentials. But I'm never going to forget what happened. Every time I use my powers a part of me…will always remember you know what."

The locker. That fucking, stupid shitty locker. Who knew that a metal box could haunt the dreams of two young women for seemingly forever after they left High school.

"But…you're still letting me go to your apartment?" Emma muttered aloud in confusion.

Taylor shrugged her arms. "Life is short Emma and especially for capes. You haven't annoyed me in a while and...I appreciate what you did with my mom's flute...so…let's just say that I'm willing to tolerate your presence for now and we'll see what happens in the future, yeah?"

"I don't know what to say Taylor."

"And you better thank Flechette when you see her. She always gets emotional every time we fight off March and she's been pestering me to not immediately toss you to the curb if you ever showed up to try to fix your mistakes so...yeah."

"Taylor, I don't know who March is but I really want to hug the hell out of you right now."

"Please don't."

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I've always been a fan of Taylor/Emma redemption stories, but I also admit that I have a really hard time seeing canon!Taylor ever forgiving Emma for what she did. I was trying to reach a middle ground here by taking advantage of the fact that time has passed and the two of them are now older and more mature. It also helps that they are both heroes, have been visiting therapists for years by this point, and are generally lonely - Emma more so than Taylor.

Taylor is not going to forgive Emma anytime soon, but Emma also just brought her a very expensive gift and her team have been having a particularly productive week arresting criminals so Taylor is in a better mood than normal. Emma got lucky here.
 
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I mean, Taylor did end up no longer giving a fuck about the trio partway through canon iirc. Though how much of that was being on the "save the world" train and how much was it her not giving a fuck I don't really remember.

But yeah, Taylor and Emma's relationship just isn't explored enough in fics. Be it before or after everything that happened. Which is a real fucking shame.
 
I mean, Taylor did end up no longer giving a fuck about the trio partway through canon iirc. Though how much of that was being on the "save the world" train and how much was it her not giving a fuck I don't really remember.

But yeah, Taylor and Emma's relationship just isn't explored enough in fics. Be it before or after everything that happened. Which is a real fucking shame.
Taylor didn't ever forgive Emma. She just didn't think a high school bully who threw away a years long friendship/sisterhood for, from Taylor's perspective, no reason was important when compared to everything else she faced since triggering. People say trigger events are the worst day in a parahuman's life never seem to consider how awful being a parahuman is.
 
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I mean, Taylor did end up no longer giving a fuck about the trio partway through canon iirc. Though how much of that was being on the "save the world" train and how much was it her not giving a fuck I don't really remember.
"The opposite of love is not hate but indifference"

Taylor no longer giving a fuck was both the consequence of the harassment campain, and the last ember of any hope of actual forgiveness (of the "consider dealing with as another human" category, not the "put vengeance on indefinite hold" one) dying.

The reaction to Emma no longer having any friend would not be sympathy : Taylor did not have any friend for two years, with no hope of making more, as well as psychological damage, because of Emma deliberate effort, whereas Emma would have only the former issue, on a much shorter timespan, and with plenty of option to make more as well as without the systematic destruction of self worth.... entirely by her own fault.

That Omake was cute, but I halfway expected Taylor to disappear, revealed as a delusion, leaving Emma with her expensive wine and make up as even more of a mess on the side of the road.
But yeah, Taylor and Emma's relationship just isn't explored enough in fics. Be it before or after everything that happened. Which is a real fucking shame.
There are a couple of fanfic that start either pre/during alley (One More Trigger, by Ack for example) where the two remain friends, or soon enough in the bullying (eg A Little Help, or technically Worm Respun by Aetheron. Dont try the 'remake', ) to snap emma away from her spiral.

But the difficulty of making a Emma/Taylor friendship is that it require pre story characterization, and both character are explicitly very changed by their respective trauma in canon : it would need the author to reinvent both characters completely, and cut out a lot of other link (both QA and Hess comes as a result of the same trauma).

Post 2 year of harassment, including several fake reconciliation and lot of sabotage, there is simply no path that could lead them back to a genuine frienship again, on both side : insecurity, ptsd, worry about starting again, actual consequences of the bullying...
even Taylor/Sophia friendship is more likely, becaus ethe violence was never a betrayal.
 
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People say trigger events are the worst day in a parahuman's life never seem to consider how awful being a parahuman is.
Keep in mind Taylor did not consider the day she Triggered the "worst day in her life" at the start of canon (i.e before she did anything as a parahuman). She did think it might have been the second worst day.
 
Liked the omake feels like a more realistic way things could go if Taylor met Emma after several years rather than immediately going ballistic and declaring war on the PRT.
Keep in mind Taylor did not consider the day she Triggered the "worst day in her life" at the start of canon (i.e before she did anything as a parahuman). She did think it might have been the second worst day.
Yeah the only reason Taylor didn't trigger when Annette died was because QA was apparently still observing Danny waiting for him to trigger. But he got a support network before he completely hit rock bottom and Shardblocked QA. If QA had moved on earlier then Taylor would more than likely have gotten powers when Annette died.
 
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I'm curious what those powers would have been. As younger hosts are supposed to get stronger powers if memory serves and Taylor would be pretty young by then...
Probably something the same vein as the rat Annette construct Danny could have gotten just either more powerful or with an extra gimmick that makes it more powerful.
 
Yeah the only Taylor didn't trigger when Annette died was because QA was apparently still observing Danny waiting for him to trigger.
No, I don't think that's right. It could be true, but there's nothing definite about it in canon, and we know that Triggers need to be a particular type of trauma, not just a "bad day".

My pet theory is that Triggers require desperation, Emma and (even with his issues) her father ensured Taylor didn't experience that when her mother died.

There's also the in-universe theory that a lot of the fandom seems to support that Triggers require isolation.
 
No, I don't think that's right. It could be true, but there's nothing definite about it in canon,
Found this reddit page with a few quotes from the text (best I could do on short notice):

and we know that Triggers need to be a particular type of trauma, not just a "bad day".
Even by that logic Annette's death would still fit since Taylor loses her mom and her dad shuts down. Not to mention that it apparently took the Barnes family some time to notice this, long enough that Taylor visibly appeared like she hadn't been eating in awhile.
My pet theory is that Triggers require desperation, Emma and (even with his issues) her father ensured Taylor didn't experience that when her mother died.
Her dad shutting down and the mentions of her nearly starving would fit with desperation.
There's also the in-universe theory that a lot of the fandom seems to support that Triggers require isolation.
Unlikely considering that there are public triggers, and isolation is more of a Master trigger than anything else.
 
Found this reddit page with a few quotes from the text (best I could do on short notice):
Yes, canon does strongly suggest that QA was with Danny before it shifted to Taylor. That has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.
Even by that logic Annette's death would still fit since Taylor loses her mom and her dad shuts down. Not to mention that it apparently took the Barnes family some time to notice this, long enough that Taylor visibly appeared like she hadn't been eating in awhile.
Yes, it could have, it didn't. Why didn't it? We don't know, there are several possible explanations, yours among them, but they're all fanon explanations.

Unlikely considering that there are public triggers, and isolation is more of a Master trigger than anything else.
Isolation doesn't mean physical isolation, and the point is that in universe the experts argue that isolation is an aspect of all Triggers, not just Masters, but we don't actually know if they're right or not.
 
That has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.
The conversation is Taylor's worst day and why she didn't trigger which I mentioned could be because QA wasn't actively observing her so it does in fact have something to do with the conversation.
Isolation doesn't mean physical isolation, and the point is that in universe the experts argue that isolation is an aspect of all Triggers, not just Masters, but we don't actually know if they're right or not.
The lack of a proper support network does have a large part to play when it comes to suffering from and dealing with trauma but at the same time one can have a support network and yet still trigger.

An example of this would be someone being stuck in a disaster or being attacked, doesn't matter if they have a lot of close friends or not they can still undergo a trigger event. Additionally a support network can be insufficient if the trauma is bad enough.
 
The conversation is Taylor's worst day and why she didn't trigger which I mentioned could be because QA wasn't actively observing her so it does in fact have something to do with the conversation.
No, it doesn't becasue we don't know when QA started observing her, and even if we knew definitely that QA had been observing Danny before hand and stopped observing him when it started observing Taylor, we still wouldn't know when that happened. It could have happened when Taylor was 6 y/o, or the day of Taylor's Trigger, we don't know and so who QA was observing before doesnt' matter to the discussion.

The lack of a proper support network does have a large part to play when it comes to suffering from and dealing with trauma but at the same time one can have a support network and yet still trigger.
True, that's why I prefer the desperation explanation.

doesn't matter if they have a lot of close friends or not they can still undergo a trigger event
Sure, but is that because they felt isolated despite all the friends? Or because they felt desperate? or for some other reason? We don't know.
 
Sure, but is that because they felt isolated despite all the friends? Or because they felt desperate? or for some other reason? We don't know.
They could be feeling any number of different things but ultimately it would vary wildly from person to person. Some could be from isolation, desperation, or some other feeling entirely. Everyone handles trauma differently so broad generalizations for triggers simply don't work in my opinion.
 
Everyone handles trauma differently so broad generalizations for triggers simply don't work in my opinion.
The first part is true, but the question isn't how people handle trauma, but what the Shards are looking for. It could be they are looking for a specific kind of trauma or a specific reaction to it, it could be each shard is different, or it could be something else.
 
The first part is true, but the question isn't how people handle trauma, but what the Shards are looking for. It could be they are looking for a specific kind of trauma or a specific reaction to it, it could be each shard is different, or it could be something else.
Shards want people who will do something with the powers they are given so it is more likely they are looking a specific reaction to the trauma. So it stands to reason that the type of trauma matters very little outside of determining what kind of power is given.
 
They could be feeling any number of different things but ultimately it would vary wildly from person to person. Some could be from isolation, desperation, or some other feeling entirely. Everyone handles trauma differently so broad generalizations for triggers simply don't work in my opinion.

I always saw it best summed up as the death of hope. Be it the final straw or a sudden event, it is just that moment when that last flicker of hope dies. Fits nicely with why trying to force a trigger is so difficult as hope of getting powers means you still have some hope left. What that hope is in can certainly vary from person to person, but that low point where it finally gets snuffed out and the person is literally hopeless then gives the opportunity for the shard to slip in and give their version of a Faustian Bargain.
 
Taylor didn't ever forgive Emma. She just didn't think a high school bully who threw away a years long friendship/sisterhood for, from Taylor's perspective, no reason was important when compared to everything else she faced since triggering. People say trigger events are the worst day in a parahuman's life never seem to consider how awful being a parahuman is.
I was never friends with my bullies, but if one of mine acted somewhat like Emma today, more than 25 years after graduation (almost 30! where did all the time go?) even if they had a sob story like that, my response would have been something along the lines of "Nice to see karma exists. That sounds about how things were for me in high school. You just made my day." and walked away.
I wouldn't have trusted such a gift like they were offering, because for all I knew they'd have peed in it or something else worse.
 
I was never friends with my bullies, but if one of mine acted somewhat like Emma today, more than 25 years after graduation (almost 30! where did all the time go?) even if they had a sob story like that, my response would have been something along the lines of "Nice to see karma exists. That sounds about how things were for me in high school. You just made my day." and walked away.
I wouldn't have trusted such a gift like they were offering, because for all I knew they'd have peed in it or something else worse.
Leaving aside the fact different people react differently, the fact Taylor and Emma had a deep and long history before the bullying would change the equation considerably. It's not a question of forgiving the bully, but seeing if Emma recovered from the insanity of High school and was again Taylor's sister is something I can see Taylor taking a risk on (at least once she got some distance and help recovering from the bullying).

She'd never fully trust Emma again, and Emma would need to go to a considerable effort to earn the chance not just come up with a sob story...but I could see Taylor willing to let Emma try and prove she changed.
 
Leaving aside the fact different people react differently, the fact Taylor and Emma had a deep and long history before the bullying would change the equation considerably. It's not a question of forgiving the bully, but seeing if Emma recovered from the insanity of High school and was again Taylor's sister is something I can see Taylor taking a risk on (at least once she got some distance and help recovering from the bullying).

She'd never fully trust Emma again, and Emma would need to go to a considerable effort to earn the chance not just come up with a sob story...but I could see Taylor willing to let Emma try and prove she changed.
Yes it would change things : it would make the bullying worse and the forgiveness less possible.
forgiving ill done out of practicality is easier than out of malice, which is easier than forgiving pettiness ... and betrayal, especially of something deep, make it personal.
You can sometime believe a former enemy of the first kind saying that now you are no longer enemy, they have no reason to harm you. You can believe the second having have either having a realization latter on life, changing their view, or saying that they dont harm their accomplices or friend, so that as one you would be safe.

But a former friend turned enemy ? peace would, at best turn them into a friend, which you know by experience is still subject to potential backstab for them.
How could you ever trust that person again ?
 
Yes it would change things : it would make the bullying worse and the forgiveness less possible.
That's certainly a possible reaction, but so is the reverse.
and betrayal, especially of something deep, make it personal.
True, but to counter that, there's no reason to go to the effort for some random jerk, for someone you have a long term relationship with? There are many cases of people forgiving some pretty serious betrayals. You might not, but some people do.
 
There was a fic, recently posted to Spacebattles called "Master-Stranger" where I could see Taylor forgiving Emma.
In that one Emma had a very good excuse of being affected by a human-controlling Master, and I think it would be glossed over that the betrayal started before Winslow and the master didn't really start things until after school began.
On the other hand there is no evidence that Emma and Sophia did anything to Taylor aside from the rejection where Sophia knocked Taylor down prior to Julia turning her "stars of misery" (to borrow something from AMG and what I vaguely recall from mythology although it was a little bit different in myth) on Taylor.

Without extenuating circumstances, after that deep a betrayal and an active campaign of maliciousness for such a long period of time, I would find forgiveness difficult and trust nearly impossible.
 
NoBeeswax if you want to get your omake threadmarked you should @ FirstSelector it is what works for me.

Also surprised that Sophia managed to get out of prison in the background details of your omake.

Thanks!

Well, Emma got out of prison in your omake series and I feel like she and Shadow Stalker would probably have similar sentences so I just went with the idea that they were released around the same time.

I'm going with the idea that Taylor and Emma are around 18-19 when Emma joins the Boston Protectorate. Realistically, any "friendly" contact between Taylor and Emma would probably need a few more years for tension to lower to an acceptable level, but I decided to just go with the flow and have Emma start her "Win back Taylor" plot after her 6 month probation period.

If there's any continuation to my plotline, it would be to fast forward a few months and have Emma become a semi-regular visitor to the Hebert Apartment. Ampere is desperate to reform some kind of fragile friendship with Taylor who, in her part, is developing a bizarre liking for a groveling Emma constantly begging for her favor.

Taylor still isn't comfortable being alone with Emma so Danny, Lily, and/or Connie usually hang around as chaperones.

The main plot development that happens next is that the Protectorate and PRT inevitably find out what Emma's been up to. Weld loses his mind when he discovers that Phase is willingly hanging out with Ampere after all the bullshit that Phase made the Boston wards go through.

Like on one hand, it's great that Phase finally buried the hatchet with Ampere and the two of them are now bonding again but on the other hand, wow the wards of Boston suffered all those PR nightmares with Taylor for years and now the two girls are just hanging out and having fun lol.

Maybe Taylor somehow becomes friends with Sophia as well so Weld and Roulette can really lose their shit lol.

Feel free to do whatever you want with the idea if you're interested.
 
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Well, Emma got out of prison in your omake series and I feel like she and Shadow Stalker would probably have similar sentences so I just went with the idea that they were released around the same time.
Not really considering in my omake Emma got out a bit early due to good behavior, and Sophia if she broke her probation would also have to deal with her original manslaughter sentence in addition to the attempted murder one against Taylor. So odds are that Sophia might have gotten the short end of the stick being tried as an adult and going to actual prison after aging out of juvie.

That and I really don't think Sophia would bother joining the Protectorate if she did get out prison. Most likely she would go back vigilantism until a villain offs her or she ends up back in prison for brutality.
Maybe Taylor somehow becomes friends with Sophia as well so Weld and Roulette can really lose their shit lol.
Taylor burying the hatchet with Sophia is also very very unlikely, like less so than her forgiving Emma which is already a stretch. Mostly because while Emma is genuinely remorseful about her actions Sophia is none of those things because in canon she never once regretted her actions and borderline seems incapable of such actions even after being in prison. So even if Taylor was willing to forgive, which she isn't, Sophia would never apologize.
The main plot development that happens next is that the Protectorate and PRT inevitably find out what Emma's been up to. Weld loses his mind when he discovers that Phase is willingly hanging out with Ampere after all the bullshit that Phase made the Boston wards go through.
Yeah that would be amusing and I imagine such a continuation would start with Emma being chewed out by Weld.
 
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Yeah that would be amusing and I imagine such a continuation would start with Emma being chewed out by Weld.

(Later in Boston Protectorate headquarters)

Weld: (Failing to control his temper) "Are you serious?! What part of 'stay the hell away from Phase' did you not understand?!"

Ampere: (Completely unrepentant) "No offense Weld, but I've known Ta…Phase a lot longer than you have. Granted, our first meeting in Boston was a little…tense, but Phase eventually decided to give me a chance and so far our little détente is working out!"

Roulette: (Irritated and tired) "Look Ampere, you took a really big risk here for seemingly little gain. What were you trying to accomplish with this stunt?"

Ampere: (Flippant) "This is personal business. I missed her, a tiny, microscopic part of her apparently missed me, and now we're trying to see what can grow back from the ashes. There's not much else to say."

(Protectorate heroes look at her with very unimpressed eyes)

Ampere: "What?! It worked out didn't it? Phase never sent you a formal complaint did she?"

Weld: (Rubbing his forehead in exhaustion) "Look…It's just…yeah, it seems like Phase is way more patient with you than any of us expected, but this could have easily backfired. If Phase had reacted negatively, you would have put us in a very awkward situation."

Nebula: "Not to mention that our long-term plans to gently encourage Phase's team to return to our fold might be in jeopardy due to your actions!"

Ampere: (Skeptical) "Yeaaaahhhh, I don't see Phase working for the government anytime soon. She loves her freedom way too much. Trust me, she told me. Repeatedly. Ad nauseam."

Gauss: "Did you at least get any useful intel out of her? Anything we can use to keep better track of her movements?"

Ampere: (Stern and a little upset) "Contrary to popular belief, I'm actually serious about being a good friend to Phase…for real this time…so I really would rather not tell you details about her private life."

Gauss: "Seriously, nothing?"

Ampere: "If you want, I can tell you about the nice sandwich shop I've been going to with Phase and Flechette every other Sunday. Their menu is delish."

Roulette: "Wait…You've been having sandwich brunches with Phase?"

Ampere: "...Yeah? What of it?"

Roulette: *Strangely upset* "It's just…Phase never invited any of us to brunch when she was with us…"

(A lot of the former wards in the meeting room look oddly depressed at the little preview into Phases's life and Ampere looks away in embarrassment)

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The Boston wards meant well, but they don't have the elusive 'childhood friend' seal that Emma holds - even if it's currently rusty, cracked, and held together with duct tape and prayers.

If there's anything this thought exercise has told me is that Taylor and Emma seemingly trying to patch things up between them would create very mixed feelings with the Boston Protectorate. On one hand, the Protectorate wouldn't have to be so afraid and hyper vigilant hiding Ampere away from Phase all the time which is good. On the other hand, Weld and his comrades will privately become even more bitter towards Taylor since Emma is the main culprit in Taylor's trigger event and yet somehow she gets the opening into Phase's life but not them after 2 and a half years lol.
 
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