(Partially) fixing the tag system

[.We]

Thank you for taking time to go after the low-hanging fruit.

Tags describing authorial intent without committing to anything, but currently useless for search.

#tag?, #tag??, maybe #tag, #tag (maybe), expect #tag, probably #tag

Tags warning about spoilers
Spoilers, #Fandom Spoilers, manga spoilers, basically anything with "spoiler" expect "No Spoilers" and such used by authors who haven't finished the source material.

"no pedo" AU
aged up characters, all characters 18+, legal shota, legal loli, everybody is aged up a little bit, aged-up characters

To be, or to not be #tag
#tag (technically), technically #tag, #tag technically

Various tags used to mark thread as collection of snippets
contains any of "ideas" "snippets" "plot bunnies" "commissions"

Tags related to update rate
updates infrequently
sporadic updates
occasional updates
updates irregular
infrequent updates
very infrequent updates
weekly updates
undetermined updates
unreliable updates

I'd actually fold all of these into Story Status
Incomplete (Updates every $Insert-DAYOFWEEK-Here)
Incomplete (Updates twice a week)
Incomplete (Updates weekly)
Incomplete (Updates monthly)
Incomplete (Updates annually)
Incomplete (Best effort updates)

With best effort being the default, and acting as polite catch all for everything from "IDK LOL" to "it's done when it's done".

 

[Horrorshowjack]

Thanks for all the work. I'd like to suggest:

Parahumans Online, ParahumansOnline, Para Humans Online, and PHO to just PHO.

There's at least two stories that aren't Worm connected at all, but have more PHO style interludes than canon Worm. In addition to Worm stories and quests told almost entirely in the format.

A lot of these contain additional information which you'd be erasing by forcing them to be the same tag. Like, mother/daughter is obviously conveying different information to people than just 'incest' (you'd tag with both)
Plus heaps of these are just straight up completely different. People searching for CNC are not looking for noncon. People searching for mother/daughter are not looking for brother/sister.

Click to shrink...

I agree about not merging the relationship based tags into incest. Even within the incest context father/daughter, twincest, mother/son, mother/daughter, and father/son, may have individual responses ranging from "that's so hot" to "you go to hell and you die" depending on the fetishes of the reader. Not a useful merge imo. Then the use of some of them outside of the incest context?

Also, Mother/Daughter is more often used for "the mc has sex with both mother and daughter together" aka oyakodon, rather than "mother and daughter do an incest." It's a completely different fetish.

Click to shrink...

That is another big argument against merging them all into an incest tag.

don't forget 'gacha', some folks leave off the chaos bit
I would personally like to request merging celestial forge, celestial grimoire, celestial dojo, celestial catalog, celestial chaos, and all other such derivatives so I can filter them all out at once

Click to shrink...

The problem with that is that a lot of people only want to filter one of them out or in. I don't read celestial forge stuff, but like Celestial Grimoire and some of the more niche catalogs quite a bit.

Celestial Gacha, in particular, seems to have a dedicated fanbase that I'm not sure go for the other ones much.

Well, maybe. But is there a need for disambiguation at all if we all know what the word Worm mean in this context? It is not some obscure thing here.
Fun fact, there's only five fics and one snippet thread with Ward tag. Huh.

Click to shrink...

Ward is unpopular to the point it nearly killed interest in his non-parahuman stuff also.

 

[da3monh0st3d]

aged up characters, all characters 18+, legal shota, legal loli, everybody is aged up a little bit, aged-up characters

Click to shrink...

These are not equivalent specifically because legal loli/shota is about preserving the preferable aesthetics while getting rid of the other issues.

Ward is unpopular to the point it nearly killed interest in his non-parahuman stuff also.

Click to shrink...

A bit unfortunate, Pact has some really neat potential for fics.

 

[(REDACTED)]

"company fucks everyone" and its associates (inspired, passingly related, etc.) are not Waifu Catalog, despite its proponents' insistence that they're the only Waifu Catalog, and should not be merged into it

Click to shrink...

Have to concur here though I would point out that authors like @Cherico explicitly don't.

 

[.We]

These are not equivalent specifically because legal loli/shota is about preserving the preferable aesthetics while getting rid of the other issues.

Click to shrink...

"legal loli" higher-order tag composed of "loli" and "aged-up character" and thus a valid synonym.


One issue currently is lack of tagging which lets unwanted threads to sneak past filters.

Personally I'd mandate a simple questionnaire every author must fill before they can post a new story. Just basic shit that'll ensure they get covered by the most common filters.

Fandom

• Original Content [ ]
• List Top 10/whatever popular fandoms on QQ [ ]
• None of the above [ ]

Does your story contain any of the following?

• M/F Sex [ ]
• M/M Sex [ ]
• F/F Sex [ ]
• Gore [ ]
• (some very popular or divisive fetishes)

Did AI Write this?

YES [ ] | No [ ]​

Is this based on a CYOA or Challenge Prompt?

• NO
• Celestial
• Gacha
• Chaos
• Catalog
• Jumpchain
• Economy
• Esscence
• YES but None of the Above

Is this a translation?

• NO
• Yes but it's my work or I have permission
• Yes, but I stole it (GTFO)

Click to shrink...

Only basic info the author has to know about their story if they wrote it, completable without any knowledge of QQ's tag system. Other tags will remain optional.

 

[grimr]

Isn't meaning of ecchi "fanservice WITHOUT porn" so explcitly not for this list?

Click to shrink...

You're one of those people who think lewd stuff like handholding is okay?

 

[hrepdrep]

legal shota, legal loli

Click to shrink...

Aren't these for "3000 year old loli vampire" type characters and not age-ups?

 

[.We]

Aren't these for "3000 year old loli vampire" type characters and not age-ups?

Click to shrink...

in-universe they are. Because some jurisdictions protect even fictional minors, a single tag for "only adult characters" is useful.

 

[Phlogistician]

"legal loli" higher-order tag composed of "loli" and "aged-up character" and thus a valid synonym.

Click to shrink...

But nothing about "legal loli/shota" requires an already existing character to age up. They could be a two-thousand-year-old vampire/dragon/etc lolibaba, they could be a case of "in their twenties but magic/whatever froze their aging so they never got hit by puberty", or even just young-looking because the author felt like it. "Aged-up character" is just flatly not applicable if no character is actually being aged up. And applying a character-type tag like "legal loli" as part of a broader "everyone is an adult here" tag doesn't work out when nothing about the legality of a particular loli or shota character has any relation to other cast members potentially not being adults themselves.

I can see the use of an "everyone is 18+/adult/whatever" tag in the vein of the "despite being set in a high school we assure you that all characters involved are 18+" type disclaimers but there is no reasonable way to link this to a "legal loli/shota" tag and no reason to do so.

 

[SnarkLord]

Personally I'd mandate a simple questionnaire every author must fill before they can post a new story. Just basic shit that'll ensure they get covered by the most common filters.

Click to shrink...

Never going yo happen.
Ignoring the fact that tagging in general is completely optional and this would be forcing the writers hands there's the fact that
it'd likely turn off a lot of authors because
A)in general don't want to give out any sort of data
B)dislike doing questionnaire
C)doing so would imply a limit to what they could post in athread ("oh i only selected a and b when making this, so i cant have c, that needs to be a diffetent thread
D)expecting that the authors have any plan whatsoever beyond a vague idea for a story they decided to publish first
E)People not wanting to add/talk about stuff that could spoil later parts of their story
F)absolutely impractical for snippet threads where authors post whatever there muse throes at them

 

[Savinkov]

Cherico has added a new tag: Exaulted.

 

[The Unicorn]

I like znt best, easy to search.

Click to shrink...

Sure, but only if you know what it means and aren't say a fan of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terror_in_Resonance who heard about 'Familiar of Zero' but not the Japanese name

{heroic mc - heroic protagonist - hero - hero mc} heroic protagonist

Click to shrink...

I'd suggest every tag that includes "protagonist" to use MC instead. While in general I gree bout avoiding acronyms in tags, I think this is one no one will mistake and all else being equal shorter tags are better.

{noncon - non-con - non-consent - nonconsent - nonconsentual - non-consensual - nonconsensual} non-consensual

Click to shrink...

Why not have the tag be "non-con"? Again shorter is better as long as it doesn't cause confusion.

{non-consent but loving it - it ain't rape if they have heart eyes - it's not rape if her eyes turn into hearts - it's not rape if she likes it - dubcon to con - eventual consent? - dubious consent to cock drunk - noncon to con - starts out noncon}

Click to shrink...

Not sure about this. Assuming authors use these tags the same way I'm interpreting them (feel free to laugh),
{it ain't rape if they have heart eyes - it's not rape if her eyes turn into hearts - it's not rape if she likes it} these are basically rape+mind control/mind break/brainwashing.
{dubcon to con - eventual consent? - dubious consent to cock drunk - noncon to con - starts out noncon} These start with dubcon then actual consent.

{crossover - also a crossover lmao - crossover and au - crossover but not obvious - crossover massively au - crossovers eventually - eventual crossover - more crossover to follow - more crossovers possible - okay fine crossovers - slowly growing crossover - unexpected crossovers - we had to crossover at some point}

{crossover elements - crossover characters - crossover waifus - lots of minor crossovers - silly crossover elements - possible crossover}

Click to shrink...

These groups seem like they should be in the merge, not synonym category.