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Jaenera Targaryen | 8 |
Thirty years have passed since the United Federation of Planets fell before the Galactic Empire.
Seven years have passed since the Belsavis Gateway closed.
Six years have passed since the Second Neo-Federation War.
The Empire of the Dragon stands strong.
Oh ho. Fascinating. So at some point, the wormhole between the Star Wars and Star Trek galaxies closed?
I'm looking forward to you painting the scenery for what's going on in tthe galaxy since the first story.
Hopefully in time for Empress Targaryen to show up with her fleets and discover the shit show that the New Republic made of the Galaxy.
Fuck yeah you are
Saw no evidence there's no social mobility in the new empire here, only that commie terrorist are being rightfully slaughtered like the animals they are.It's laughable how you claim to be a 'realist' and that utopia is unattainable, yet what you have here is exactly the utopia a fascist envisions: the rich stay rich, the poor stay poor, the dissident gets a boot stomped on his face forever, while the Dear Leader (i.e. You) gets worshiped as a god above men.
Fuck yeah you are
The time skip was expected from a story-telling perspective, since the story now skips to a much more interesting part of the in-story universe.
The wormhole would obviously be closed at some point, it was painfully obvious there'd be a separation of the old and new empire, especially with how blatantly Q commented on it.
Of course there's no comparison of the Federation with the Soviet Union. The Union had the good grace to collapse economically while the Federation persisted in their deranged anti-human philosophy.
Go ISB, hunt down all the commies and hang them from the rafters I say.
Saw no evidence there's no social mobility in the new empire here, only that commie terrorist are being rightfully slaughtered like the animals they are.
Preach. A proper functional human society would channel natural human urges towards productive and positive ends, instead of denying basic human nature as inherently evil.Well, not so funny with regard to that last bit, as it's very seriously true. The Federation proclaims that Human nature is evil, that want and ambition is evil, that Humanity should be ashamed of itself and reject its identity if it wants to deserve a place in the stars...
...why not just commit mass suicide then, when being Human is a crime in itself to begin with?
Lol. Please tell me you are joking.Let me guess, it's that White Dragon dude? Ignore him, he didn't have anything constructive to say in the previous story (even eventually getting thread-banned for it too), and I doubt it'll be any different here.
Of course there's no comparison of the Federation with the Soviet Union. The Union had the good grace to collapse economically while the Federation persisted in their deranged anti-human philosophy.
Go ISB, hunt down all the commies and hang them from the rafters I say.
Saw no evidence there's no social mobility in the new empire here, only that commie terrorist are being rightfully slaughtered like the animals they are.
Let me guess, it's that White Dragon dude? Ignore him, he didn't have anything constructive to say in the previous story (even eventually getting thread-banned for it too), and I doubt it'll be any different here.
Okay, dude, why don't you have the decency to see yourself out before you inevitably get threadbanned again since you clearly can't just step back with grace, recognize that you aren't coming off nearly as righteous as you seem, and see that your arguments are getting nowhere?
Nah, you are just high on the smell of your own farts.
Preach. A proper functional human society would channel natural human urges towards productive and positive ends, instead of denying basic human nature as inherently evil.
Yeah. Can't really engineer an utopian society and make it last. People should be allowed to make mistakes and fail or succeed on their own merit.I would put it more simply: people living their lives freely for good or ill.
Yeah. Can't really engineer an utopian society and make it last. People should be allowed to make mistakes and fail or succeed on their own merit.
Kinda wondering how are you are going to present relationships between this Empire and the Ferengi now.
Ah right, your SI did have some in-story experience with hunting down pirates didn't she? Combined with the recent war that brought down the local superpower to its knees and made them beg for mercy, and how Imperial doctrine isn't known for taking shit from anybody... Yeah, I can't see how any pirate would last for a second longer than a hasty reclassification as 'target practice'.At the very least, no more piracy. That, or they learn to stop complaining after Vindicator cruisers start regularly blowing Ferengi pirates out of the stars.
Yeah, I was thinking more about establishing proper economy here. The Federation had none economy as we understand it, they got some corps from the SW galaxy being an influence, true. But with the gates closed, I was simply wondering about how much of this opportunity the Ferengi Alliance would take advantage of? The former federation territories are a prime and untapped market for just about everything.Making money, though? Not a problem. Money makes the galaxy go round, and nothing's stopping anyone from getting fair chances at making it.
Ah right, you SI did have some in-story experience with hunting down pirates didn't she? Combined with the recent war that brought down the local superpower to its knees and make them beg for mercy, and how Imperial doctrine isn't know for taking shit from anybody... Yeah, I can't see how any pirate would last for a second longer than a hasty reclassification as 'target practice'.
Yeah, I was thinking more about establishing proper economy here. The Federation had none economy as we understand it, they got some corps from the SW galaxy being an influence, true. But with the gates closed, I was simply wondering about how much of this opportunity the Ferengi Alliance would take advantage of? The former federation territories are a prime and untapped market for just about everything.
Depending on how the New Empire is open to it, they may take advantage of Ferengi investments and open market practices. Some may look askew on alien interests so heavily influencing internal markets and industries of the Empire, but the political consideration might be that of drawing the Ferengi closer into the Empire's orbit by having them heavily, well, invested in the continual economical prosperity of the Empire.
Sorry if I sound like I'm rambling here, I just find this topic fascinating.
I would put it more simply: people living their lives freely for good or ill.
Yeah. Can't really engineer an utopian society and make it last. People should be allowed to make mistakes and fail or succeed on their own merit.
Well, I did call them a superpower since they apparently defeated just about everyone in canon who challenged them and have enough superscience black magic they can pull out of their assess on a seemingly weekly basis. But yeah, Great Power is an apt description.And the Federation isn't even really a superpower, apparently. TNG has a couple of episodes set in an alternate timeline showing the Federation in a cold war gone hot with the Klingons and slowly but steadily losing. They're a Great Power, definitely, but a superpower. Nope.
Say no more. I'm looking forward to experiencing this in the story proper.Oh, definitely. I'd prefer to show details in-story, but at the very least, I can say the Empire won't be using commodity currency like latinum or even representative money like antimatter credits (although since others use them they can be converted as needed), but a fiat currency. If nothing else, it should keep the Empire from being dependent on limited material resources to back their currency with...that, and partly-neutralize inflation as a concern.
Stagflation, in contrast, yeah, that'd be a problem.
I want to be a genetically augmented cyborg.Tell me, how the fuck does the Federation not allow for people to live freely, make mistakes, and fail or succeed on their own merits? And no, not the absurd totalitarian parody of a strawman that Jaenera depicted, but the actual Federation as seen in the franchise?
Well, I did call them a superpower since they apparently defeated just about everyone in canon who challenged them and have enough superscience black magic they can pull out of their assess on a seemingly weekly basis.
Fair enough, fair enough.Not quite. The Romulan Wars apparently ended in a stalemate, with the Romulans fucking off into isolationism for about a century or so, while the Klingon Cold War was only won thanks the Klingons fucking up their own homeworld by blowing up its moon. That, and they apparently found common cause against the Romulans, but even then the Klingons are more than capable of acting unilaterally without consultation with the Federation.
The Federation did have an advantage over the Cardassians...but then fucked themselves up by doing the equivalent of the USA giving up Wisconsin to Canada and the British Empire. Right after the Civil War. When the Union had the biggest, most battle-hardened army in the world, and the industry to support it. Simply because the other side was whining and bitching over it.
Now, there's a thought, what would be the Empire's stance on all of those worlds / civilization the Federation ignored due to the Prime Directive so far? This is bound to be a fun avenue to explore.So do I. So do a lot of people in the Empire. And if they have the money for it, they can be. The Empire isn't as backward as the Federation, denying people the right to alter their bodies as they see fit. Whether on a whim, or just wanting to be more than Human, that's their choice. The Empire only gets involved if things get out of hand afterward, but if they don't, then there's no point in mucking about.
Now, there's a thought, what would be the Empire's stance on all of those worlds / civilization the Federation ignored due to the Prime Directive so far? This is bound to be a fun avenue to explore.
Now, there's a thought, what would be the Empire's stance on all of those worlds / civilization the Federation ignored due to the Prime Directive so far? This is bound to be a fun avenue to explore.
Well, the Empire doesn't follow the Prime Directive. It could swing either way, so they won't penalize charitable people or groups from helping, but neither will they care about technological proliferation or corporate investment.
At least so long as taxes are paid, of course.
*shrugs*
Based on Tatooine, and the Jawas and Tusken Raiders thereof, it doesn't seem that onerous at all.
So as long as the proper Imperial law and order is maintained, all of those worlds would be open for integration into wider galactic society?Well, the Empire doesn't follow the Prime Directive. It could swing either way, so they won't penalize charitable people or groups from helping, but neither will they care about technological proliferation or corporate investment.
At least so long as taxes are paid, of course.