Rule 3 clarification: do any of these count as photorealistic?

[Nyaa]

Faces only, but pretty NSFW. Also it's AI faces crops generated without adetailer, so might offend your aesthetic sense.

Spoiler: set 1

Spoiler: set 2

Spoiler: set 3

Spoiler: set 4

 

[LurkingInTheDeceit]

FYI, I'm getting more moderator opinions on this, but I appreciate both that you asked first and that you stuck to heads given the uncertainty.

 

[Nyaa]

Hey, that's what this subforum is for. Might as well link this thread in the actual rule once the ruling is made.

 

[Nyaa]

More images, these were purposefully generated with different weight of "photorealistic" tag, on same anime base model that can generate something cute from such abuse. Full portraits this time, not crops. Not NSFW but each spoiler is few 2.5Mb images each.

Spoiler: 1.4

Spoiler: 1.7

Spoiler: 2.0

Spoiler: 2.5

 

[Nyaa]

Last sample post (I swear). SFW, crops. These I could probably mistake for a heavily photoshopped photo if I was drunk.

Spoiler: images

 

[ZLnon]

When I think photorealistic, I think of something that could pass as a deepfake of someone IRL.

 

[ultima333]

Okay @Nyaa I'm going to be frank here - there isn't ever going to be a definitive, black-and-white line with this- there are too many factors in many such cases, so it's more of a gradient as things get less and less okay.
As such, we're also somewhat uncomfortable with trying to find any exact line to say "this stuff is fine".

I will say that I don't see the first set as problematic.
However, the most recent set:

Last sample post (I swear). SFW, crops. These I could probably mistake for a heavily photoshopped photo if I was drunk.

*snip pics*

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is at the point where I would say to back off and stay away from, that's starting to get uncomfortably close to the point I'd reach for a hammer.

 

[alethiophile]

To clarify, the rule we're working with here is "could this picture reasonably be mistaken for a photo?" Then, separately, "does the subject of the picture appear to be under 18?" and "is the picture sexually explicit?" If all three answers are yes, then the picture is not allowed.

Here is an example of AI art that is "photorealistic" by our reckoning:

Spoiler

If you look closely, there are tells that this is AI. However, at first glance it just looks like a photo. (And the distinction is made even trickier when taking into account all the standard types of airbrushing that can be done to a real photo to remove imperfections.) A picture in this style, that depicted underage-looking people in a sexually explicit manner, would not be allowed on QQ.

None of your examples are as clearly "photorealistic" as this one. My judgement is that the first two image sets are okay, and the third one is borderline. We probably want to stay away from "borderline" here, so I would advise not posting images like the third.

I will note that we, QQ staff, are not interested in trying to draw a bright line that people can tiptoe right up to. You should not be looking to make pictures that are "as photorealistic as the rules allow". If you think there is a possibility a picture might be mistaken for a photo, it probably shouldn't be posted here.

However, we will not be attaching harsh punishments to good-faith mistakes here. Absent serious aggravating circumstances, if someone posts an image that is over the line, we will simply remove it and give a warning. Users should use their good judgement in what to post, and should not spend a lot of time trying to get as close to the line as possible.

 

[Nyaa]

Thank you guys for answers, I personally have no interest in toeing the photorealistic line and/or creating unnecessary work for the moderation team. I just happen to like semi-realistic look like the second set because as much as I like anime, the vast majority of flat color anime models have severe case of loliface when not using character loras, and sometimes even then.

 

[alethiophile]

However, we will not be attaching harsh punishments to good-faith mistakes here. Absent serious aggravating circumstances, if someone posts an image that is over the line, we will simply remove it and give a warning. Users should use their good judgement in what to post, and should not spend a lot of time trying to get as close to the line as possible.

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Recent developments have prompted a need to update this comment.

While we hope to be able to use discretion, there are cases involving potential legal risk to the site where we must be more strict. Thus, there is a class of AI images for which posting them will result in an immediate permaban. One such incident occurred recently.

We hope to only resort to this remedy in extreme cases.