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Should I abandon my ideals?

Daytripper

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Should I abandon my ideals because they are not part of the cynical cultural milieu?
 
Daytripper said:
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Because 1. If you're abandoning you're ideals for some idea of fitting in you should probably take a moment to think over your decision.
and 2. Being cynical isn't healthy mentally and people have enough mental stress existing in modern society as is
 
Daytripper said:
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Because if you're willing to abandon your beliefs because of what other people think of you, then their not actually your beliefs. You don't believe in anything. You just let other people think for you because your insecure, and you don't have enough confidence in yourself to make your own decisions.

Now I don't know if that's who you are in real life, but as someone who used to live that way, it's not a happy life.
 
How did that guy say ... .

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And here is the site I got the pic from. Quite insightful, actually. :)

I for one think he is my inner animal spirit! :V
 
Daytripper said:
. Universal brotherhood
. Liberal democracy
. Universal truth
. Justice
. Human rights
. Enviromentalism
. Egalitarianism
. Individualism
. Pluralism
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Why do you need our opinions in order for you to decided what you believe in? If you believe in something, if you think your doing the right thing, who are we to tell you that you are wrong. Most people who are living their lives want and try to do the right thing. Then they inevitably screw up, because failure happens to everyone. Maybe because they didn't have the information they thought they did, but no matter the reason why the failed, they pick themselves up, learn from the experience, and try to do better next time.

That's what a healthy believe system looks like, its not this static thing. It adepts and changes as you learn more and grow. Usually the ideologies that force you to believe in a very narrow definition or a very strict rules set are not healthy or good. The word fascism comes from the Italian word fascio, which means a bundle of sticks. In ancient roman they had this believe that one stick can be broken, but a bundle can't. If an army stands together they are strong, but if it's divided it will break. For fascists what this means to them, is if you have one group of people, one culture, one religion, one identity, and one skin color all working together for a common goal or state then they would be invincible. Which in case you didn't notice, doesn't leave a lot of room for other groups of people or believe systems.

The important part is learning from mistakes, it's understanding that it happens and its normal. It's normal to have doubts or be afraid, the problem is when you let those things consume you and you decide to let other people do all the thinking for you. Or you go the opposite route and decide that no you are not wrong everyone else is, everyone is my enemy. You need something to believe in. You need something in life to give yourself a purpose, because the universe is certainly not going to give you one. The universe is uncaring. We have to decide our own purpose. But what ever your purpose is, its not the only one in world.

Other people have purposes and believes that they follow, and more often than not your beliefs and there beliefs will challenge each other. In a perfect world you would learn from each other. You might not agree a hundred percent, but you each take some new knowledge and insight from each other and walk away happier. We do not live in a perfect world obviously, but I think the only way were ever going to reach there is if people try.
 
Daytripper said:
. Universal brotherhood
. Liberal democracy
. Universal truth
. Justice
. Human rights
. Enviromentalism
. Egalitarianism
. Individualism
. Pluralism
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My suggestion for you would be to take a long break from the internet, let's say a week and contemplate on those ideals and see if they aren't contradictory to one another. Afterwards I suggest you slap yourself really hard for asking stupid questions. Your ideals are not something you ask random degenerates on the internet whether you should keep or not, they're the pathways you take to building yourself up, to becoming what you wish to be or what you see yourself as.

To abandon your ideals is to abandon who you are trying to become and erase who you are.
 
Daytripper said:
Should I abandon my ideals because they are not part of the cynical cultural milieu?
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If you think asking a bunch of Randos on the internet if you should, you probably don't hold them that close in the first place. Thus you should abandon them, and seek out ideals you actually value, not just the ones you think you should value.
 
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