EternitynChaos
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[X] Plan Smuthunter
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I just noticed this but hastening nights end has a requirement of only helping those willing and can be resisted for willpower. Given that we currently qualify as his mortal fear i am pretty sure he will resist. Also this should not be an arc. We propose our solution and Raiser gets shiped off to live a mundane life until we find Ryusenkyo at which point we drag him with us. Given HNE requires one hours personal interaction we can use it then. I'm not arguing against getting the charms I just don't think that they are worth it right now.
I just noticed this but hastening nights end has a requirement of only helping those willing and can be resisted for willpower. Given that we currently qualify as his mortal fear i am pretty sure he will resist. Also this should not be an arc. We propose our solution and Raiser gets shiped off to live a mundane life until we find Ryusenkyo at which point we drag him with us. Given HNE requires one hours personal interaction we can use it then. I'm not arguing against getting the charms I just don't think that they are worth it right now.
It will work if you manage to convince Raiser that what we do will cure him.
This charm explicitly requires consent from the person it's being used on. Mindrape is definitely not the right word.Mh... I'd take the charms if we can think of at least two other uses for HtNE. We could mindrape mil-tan into being a productive member of society.
Ravel is pretty cool, yeah. Being able to cure Raiser in an hour or two would probably score huge points with her.Or: How much social capital would we get for insta-curing him? Would it become widely known, boosting our cult? Would we get the sister? Do we want her? I bet if we'll get her to live with her brother and have regular contact with the both we'll get her anyway with the Ice plan.
That still doesn't fix the problem. And i don't want to have to deal with Reiser all the freaking time, because we know he is going to be sent to the same school as us.No it's going with Bealzards suggestion with the understanding that Ddraigs will take time to happen. It's also asking his parent and our nominal boss if they can think of any way to help or have ideas to add to ours.
You do realize that soul of ice isn't voting to hit him with a charm? That smuthunter is?[X] soul ice
-[X] with the addendum that you could probably cure raiser if he stopped being mortally afraid of you long enough to hit him with a the charm.
wasn't diodora the one who made issei hit juggernaut drive? Actually if he tries the same thing in this quest not only would it trigger issei's enhanced sense of justice thanks to the solar exaltation, but I am pretty sure bright did not remove juggernaut drive.
Oh boy he is in for a lot of pain, just what he deserves
noahgab's point is that we could do this faster under other circumstances than we're currently working with and explaining why that is to Rias and Revache.You do realize that soul of ice isn't voting to hit him with a charm? That smuthunter is?
Does it have to be informed consent? Do they have to know we're using a charm? Can we tell Mil-tan it's a required purification ritual on his quest for magical girlhood?(I mainly used mindrape because I don't think this charm is ethical.) I'm just asking to know more about it. I mean, can't we get around the "resisting" part if they don't notice what we're doing?This charm explicitly requires consent from the person it's being used on. Mindrape is definitely not the right word.
Ravel is pretty cool, yeah. Being able to cure Raiser in an hour or two would probably score huge points with her.
Well then unthink it. Derangements are mental damage, like PTSD. Being a transvestite or whatever Mil-tan is is not mental damage and we couldn't force him to not be one anymore, at least not with HNE. This charm's purpose is healing.(I mainly used mindrape because I don't think this charm is ethical.)
Presence Excellency just makes us more convincing, we need the charm we are buying to cure him in a conversation, otherwise we are going to be stuck with him for weeks if not months... fuck that noise
we have two much worse cases that we will need it for. the Hero faction kidnaps and brainwashes teenagers who have sacred gears and there this one bastard who gets nuns excomuntated, sets them up into bad situations so he can "save them" then rapes em (both literal and mind rape)/So you'd rather waste XP on him? Buying a Charm that, to my knowledge, we wouldn't really need again?
No. We've spent enough XP on fighty stuff, we're a Twilight. We should be Tony Stark, not Ryu.I want to save the XP for more important stuff.
I don't feel wasting it (and I do feel it a waste, especially when there are other options) on Raiser being afraid of us, is worth using XP we could spend on stuff like raising Stamina, Strength, Maybe an Ability like Melee, or one of the Dragon Knacks.
Why not use a Presence Excellency? Wouldn't cure him automatically, but might help him enough to cure himself.
Then use it buy Occult Charms, raise our Caste abilities like Craft, or some interesting Lore or Investigation Charms.No. We've spent enough XP on fighty stuff, we're a Twilight. We should be Tony Stark, not Ryu.
Using it to save the brainwashed victims or those raped nuns, 'that' I can agree with.we have two much worse cases that we will need it for. the Hero faction kidnaps and brainwashes teenagers who have sacred gears and there this one bastard who gets nuns excomuntated, sets them up into bad situations so he can "save them" then rapes em (both literal and mind rape)/