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Rebecca is really just saying what everyone was already thinking to begin with.
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I don't think that's true really. Her power is no stronger than any other cape's, quite literally. The fact that Cauldron lets Manton wander around and not even help with Endbringers shows pretty clearly they're fine with strong capes wandering around. There's even a bonus that she'll probably show up to help with Endbringers and Scion anyways. Cauldron isn't likely to feel a need to interfere.doomlord9 said:Not sure she would be able to stick with them though unless PtV says that her strongest place is with them de-suckifying L33T's use of his power. She's FAR too valuable for Cauldron to ignore unless there's some bad interaction between her power and Cauldron capes.
Galeiam said:Even if she's a trump and will be in high demand that last snippet was a bit to heavy handed...Should at least make them able to tolerate her enough to Leech off L33T
Galeiam said:0o? Are you arguing against me or agreeing?
Even with all of that, the grand total of people who can comprehend what her Shard represents is about 12?
Scion,Cauldron,PRT tops, and a few others, so at this moment she's being too....obnoxious about it to them when she's the one who came to them.
"Okay, Velocity, once more, from the top."
Velocity looked ill at ease, seated in the chair before the Director's desk.
"I got the call that Shadow Stalker was fighting someone at Winslow, with her own powers. I think the Barnes girl sent it in. When I got there, they were both in shadow form, and I didn't know who was who. Then one of them pulled the other one out of the wall, and dropped her, and they changed to normal, and one of them was Shadow Stalker, and the other one ... wasn't."
Piggot glared. "Why did you even stop to talk to the girl, rather than just taking her down hard? She had already attacked Shadow Stalker."
"Look, I know it looked bad. But Shadow Stalker was still moving. The Hebert girl was talking. She could have killed Hess, but she didn't. I've been trained to de-escalate situations, and I figured that it might work in this case. So I decided to find out what she wanted."
"You took a huge chance with an unknown factor, Swoyer," snapped the Director. "You should have taken her down and brought her in. A dangerous cape ..."
Velocity took a deep breath. "Director, I don't want to tell you how to do your job –"
"Then don't," growled Piggot.
" – but you haven't been out and about with Shadow Stalker. I have. She has an ... attitude problem."
"She's a probationary Ward with an attempted manslaughter charge hanging over her head. Two and a half years of being a solitary vigilante in Brockton Bay before we brought her into the Wards. That will breed a certain attitude. One which we need to iron out of her, yes, but understandable that it is there in the first place. Your point being?"
"My point being, Director, is that I'm actually fairly good at reading body language. When I arrived, I got the impression that Shadow Stalker was overacting. Pretending to be hurt worse than she really was."
Piggot was silent for a long moment. "So you're saying that you believe that Shadow Stalker tried to incite you to attack with overwhelming force, so that the Hebert girl would never have a chance to say her piece."
"Or that we'd never believe her, given that she'd just taken down Shadow Stalker," agreed Velocity. "But when she told me what she did, at a speed only I could pick up, it changed the whole equation. Made me wonder if there wasn't more to the situation, something going on that we didn't know about."
"Well, we'll know more in a few moments," the Director noted. "Miss Militia's interviewing her now. By the time she's finished, I'll know whether to commend you for initiative, bust you down to probationary member, or hit the Endbringer siren."
Velocity searched the Director's features. She appeared to be serious on all counts. He swallowed involuntarily.
Worm 3.3 said:"Vista can stretch and compress space. She can also do funny things with gravity. Thing is, the Manton effect keeps her from stretching or compressing you. It also makes altering an area a lot harder for her if there's more people in that space. So if all of us are in one room, chances are she won't be able to affect the whole room."
I think the Manton limit is about living things. Tattletale (or whoever's saying that) is probably using 'people' as shorthand for 'living things' because they're most worried about Vista affecting them personally.Enjoyable as always. Just a small quibble with respect to Vista's power; she's not limited by all life, just people. Most explicit statement I found was 3.3:
She can't detect (people with) powers farther than ten yards away, but if she can physically see a cape farther away, she can move the focus spot to them manually. If a parahuman comes within five yards of her, the focus spot moves to them, unless a) she's got the spot on someone closer, or b) she chooses not to let it.Heh.
Taylor is being awesome, as expected. Though I'm unclear on the exact parameters of how she deals with powers. She can keep the link to Aegis from a block away? Is the shorter range limitation just on forming links, or what?
I think the Manton limit is about living things. Tattletale (or whoever's saying that) is probably using 'people' as shorthand for 'living things' because they're most worried about Vista affecting them personally.
Doesn't Vista do really stupid things to geometry for transit routes in the 'Golden Morning' stage of things in areas where there is wildlife but not humans?
Worm 29.1 said:I stared at the world that stretched out before us, and it was wrong. Perspective was skewed. Lines bent where they should have been straight, and the expanse to our left was somehow more extensive than the space to our right.
The horizon should have been straight, or at least a gentle curve to accomodate the planet's natural curvature, but it was almost a wavy line.
"The fuck?" I muttered.
"Vista," Tattletale said, very matter-of-factly.
[...]
"Just how much area is she manipulating?" I asked.
"She was only ever held back by the Manton effect," Tattletale said. "Number of people in the area."
"And there's not many people left in Bet," I spoke my thoughts aloud, as I made the connection.
lol, nope. That was the tinker device. She can't use anyones power unless they are there.Even if she escapes, Aegis and Vista saw her use Shadow Stalker's power. The moment they mention that to their superiors, she's fucked.
Doesn't Vista do really stupid things to geometry for transit routes in the 'Golden Morning' stage of things in areas where there is wildlife but not humans?
Hm.