With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

[Vaermina]

Gotta be honest here... This seems really contrived...

Or maybe he went full on insane and is just hallucinating the ring suddenly becoming sentient...

 

[Mr Zoat]

Unnecessary word.

Click to shrink...

Thank you, corrected.

*facepalms*
why didnt he leave a standing order to do a FORCED reversion in case of significant mental alteration/neural drift? i mean, its the software/chemical melange his MIND is running on- i cant internally tell the difference between before and after taking Ritalin without someone commenting on me being more/less focused,and thats just trying to ntoice a "relatively" minor change in mental state
-relying on your mind to notice its being effected/warped is.....
i mean, if he was concerned enough to program/prompt the ring to do monitoring in the first place....why..didnt he...

i dont know if that drifts into expecting "SB Competence" or not,but given the thought he went into researching alternative empowerment methods beforehand...

Click to shrink...

Because that wouldn't work. He'd have to want to change back at the time.

 

[Fellow]

The answer is obvious.

He uses Bat Makeup to conceal the scars.

Click to shrink...

Guano?

 

[Stsword]

Query: Was a antidote to the Hyde Serum ever created?

Click to shrink...

Only two people were ever shown to use this serum im the comics- A guy who was a criminal scumbag to begin with, and Sally Sonic, so no.

Doesn't mean someone couldn't fix it.

Although what springs to mind immediately is slapping an indigo ring on him so he can start talking gibberish.

 

[The Unaligned Player]

Only two people were ever shown to use this serum im the comics- A guy who was a criminal scumbag to begin with, and Sally Sonic, so no.

Doesn't mean someone couldn't fix it.

Although what springs to mind immediately is slapping an indigo ring on him so he can start talking gibberish.

Click to shrink...

If it is ever cured, anyone with empathic vision will likely see a solid bead of vantablack appear at the center of Tangseids everything. He'd likely thank them and inform them that if they want to continue existing they should abandon the universe since he's going to attempt to change it by any means necessary to avert his consumption of the Hyde Potion.

 

[fluffy]

So when was 'tangseid' first introduced cause I am lost.

 

[Darko]

So when was 'tangseid' first introduced cause I am lost.

Click to shrink...

It was during the Plutonian episode.

 

[CTrees]

I'd have thought it's because he's often spunking, it rick climbing or going to adventurous trips to foreign lands to 'find himself'

Click to shrink...

I'm quite certain I've seen that explanation in some version of Batman (maybe an animated one?), combined with "and I'm very clumsy/accident prone." Why did he keep picking the double black diamond slopes when he's out skiing? Because billionaire playboy thrill seeker.

The bigger question is, how does he end up scarred everywhere except his immaculate face? That's implies a very specific level of skill, given his mouth isn't even protected by a costume.

 

[DAT_NOOB]

I'm quite certain I've seen that explanation in some version of Batman (maybe an animated one?), combined with "and I'm very clumsy/accident prone." Why did he keep picking the double black diamond slopes when he's out skiing? Because billionaire playboy thrill seeker.

The bigger question is, how does he end up scarred everywhere except his immaculate face? That's implies a very specific level of skill, given his mouth isn't even protected by a costume.

Click to shrink...

Getting, stabbed/shot in the face/head is generally not recommended in most self-defence classes

 

[Impartial Panic]

Seriously, how the hell does Bruce keep that shit hidden when he's running around being a playboy? I mean, you can only wear shirts around the pool so many times before someone gets suspicious...

Click to shrink...

given they have used car accidents as a cover for when Bruce gets badly mangled in a fight [see knightfall]
and probably other excuses.

yes well I had a rather embarrassing mishap while base jumping.

and this is why I don't own a pet tiger anymore.

It's the result of not properly screening the dominatrix I hired and well let's just say I should have noticed a problem when she didn't have a safe word.

I'd have thought it's because he's often spunking, it rick climbing or going to adventurous trips to foreign lands to 'find himself'

Click to shrink...

The Misadventures of Bruce Wayne Clumsy Playboy Adventurer.

 

[Rebu]

'd have thought it's because he's often spunking,

Click to shrink...

Spelunking. What you described is another subforum entirely.

 

[Grek]

Gotta be honest here... This seems really contrived...

Or maybe he went full on insane and is just hallucinating the ring suddenly becoming sentient...

Click to shrink...

It's an origin story for an alternate Paul and no weirder of a divergence than Raul got?

 

[Pinklestia]

So what's up with the ring? It seems more 'alive' for lack of a better word compared to the other Paul's rings. Does it have a copy of his or someone else's personality saved onto it like Sinestro's ring?

Click to shrink...

Who knows? My best guess is that Zoat have this ring a pre corruption Paul imprint yet made it powerless to act on it's own.

I mean, there is no point is having an AI as a caretaker if the AI can't help you when you are running on "This is your Brain on Evil!"

That's why in my story the MC both gives his AIs free will and makes sure they are good people.

Well that and he is aware that as a Mad Scientist he is MAD and so needs watching over.

 

[Maxx Crowley]

Now I'm just picturing Paul in a Borderlands Krieg situation.

The real personality trapped in his ring while his big, dumb, evil body rampages with him doing his best to at least steer it in a less negative direction.

In regards to Tangsied, his one failing at the start was not having other observers. If say, Alan and Diana had observed the process, they probably could have halted this and got him to purge himself with the ring.

Mad science! Don't perform it without a science buddy.

 

[Someguy Somewhere]

I guess that is the core point of difference, without the connection he got with alan and the others, he was left experimenting on his own rather the with friends, doing magic with aqualad and science with kid flash. You don't work out without a spotter, and you don't do science without peer review.

Will state that Tang here could have simply reverted the change, as he stated before the injection it's mundane and reversible, he could re-dose himself if he wished after evaluating the difference. He could just Toggle the thing if he wanted to study the difference...with what...60 seconds of flopping on the floor between.

A difference was discovered between blue and orange lanterns was about a day from when they left Earth Prime, same with Gravyen (a particularly rough day evidently)....wonder what happened with Tang here. Common Sense seems to be in the same 16 as OL...maybe they were taken/created at the same time? Never got an exit date for other Pauls, but distance in time vs distance in the multiverse could be a factor.

 

[gustyeagle]

Well, yes. But as he said himself, he's basically a different person from his previous self, so Tangseid doesn't want to change and kill his current self.

Click to shrink...

No I mean his previous self that did this. No shit Tangseid doesn't want to, I just don't know why OL did it in the first place. Imagine caring about a strength increase in a superhero world, when you have a power ring.

 

[Coda]

Because what is Compassion but a drive to fulfil others' wants?

Click to shrink...

This parallelism even was a plot point in my fic.

Imagine caring about a strength increase in a superhero world, when you have a power ring.

Click to shrink...

The other SIs have already commented on -- or demonstrated firsthand -- why you don't want to put all of your eggs in one basket. If your ring is neutralized or removed, you need a backup.

 

[gustyeagle]

The other SIs have already commented on -- or demonstrated firsthand -- why you don't want to put all of your eggs in one basket. If your ring is neutralized or removed, you need a backup.

Click to shrink...

Yes, but a power rings is still an extremely powerful baseline and difficult to counter. Many backups, like super strength, are not very useful in comparison to the type of foes that can stop your power ring from working. A good gun, good armor, sciso-tech, or other useful powers would make a lot more sense, especially after the mister twister betrayal mountain invasion.

A backup is pointless if you are the one who kills you. Super strength is also a very weak power to be risking it all on. It's not even very good Super strength, somewhere around peak human at best.

Not really? If you want a brainwashing rape monster this is QQ is full of those stories.

Click to shrink...

Where? I can't find any good ones.

 

[Crocea]

Rereading this was a journey of literal weeks, when the length of books first chapters combined start to rival most novels, its certainly time to do something.

Probably not stopping, its probably too late for that.

But doing something seems justified.

Does anyone know the full word count of this story?

 

[Mr Zoat]

Rereading this was a journey of literal weeks, when the length of books first chapters combined start to rival most novels, its certainly time to do something.

Probably not stopping, its probably too late for that.

But doing something seems justified.

Does anyone know the full word count of this story?

Click to shrink...

Not it.

 

[Vaermina]

It's an origin story for an alternate Paul and no weirder of a divergence than Raul got?

Click to shrink...

Not what I mean, I mean it was contrived that his ring suddenly developed sentience and would accept a super weak argument that countermanded his previous orders.

 

[webxro]

Well, here's a random announcement, I shall eventually start a re-read and count how many snu-snu offers Paul had (half-hearted or not), but not now because I am looking at the renegade. Also BTW, did anyone notice how many broken links do the earlier eps have ?

 

[Coda]

Does anyone know the full word count of this story?

Click to shrink...

The average number of words per update in this thread is about 1207, and the average number of words per threadmarked post in the story-only thread is about 1333. There are 2686 posts in the story-only thread. This puts the total at about 3.3 million words, give or take a couple hundred thousand.

Also BTW, did anyone notice how many broken links do the earlier eps have ?

Click to shrink...

It's inevitable. We point them out when we find yet another link that's broken, and Zoat tries to find replacements.

 

[rdfox]

Perfect. Wasn't talking about pics of the Holly-stab anyway...

Seriously, how the hell does Bruce keep that shit hidden when he's running around being a playboy? I mean, you can only wear shirts around the pool so many times before someone gets suspicious...

Click to shrink...

Last I knew, canon was that his cover story was that he was an extreme sports junkie (particularly downhill skiing), but not very good at them and had a habit of racking himself in accidents on a par with the legendary fall of Vinko Bogataj, resulting in the scars.

 

[SpiritualSlacker]

Where? I can't find any good ones.

Click to shrink...

That's probably because the people writing these stories are for the most part not interested in nuance.
The closest thing I can come up with (and I haven't really plunged this site very thoroughly, either for this kind of story or in general) is Indulgence (an R34 Economy story set in Worm, by Ina_Meishou, in case you haven't heard of it). It's not super long, and it's not super complete, and I'm not linking it here because I'm not one hundred percent on rules about linking NSFW on non-NSFW sub forums, but in case you don't know it, you should find it on this site somewhere.
EDIT: I double-checked the rules, and it is apparently indeed allowed to link NSFW on SFW if you mark it well. So, in that spirit: NSFW, adult content and questionable morality, ho: check out Indulgence here. It's an okay story, if you're into that.

 

[Mr Zoat]

That's probably because the people writing these stories are for the most part not interested in nuance.
The closest thing I can come up with (and I haven't really plunged this site very thoroughly, either for this kind of story or in general) is Indulgence (an R34 Economy story set in Worm, by Ina_Meishou, in case you haven't heard of it). It's not super long, and it's not super complete, and I'm not linking it here because I'm not one hundred percent on rules about linking NSFW on non-NSFW sub forums, but in case you don't know it, you should find it on this site somewhere.

Click to shrink...

As I understand it, linking is fine as long as it's clear that the link goes somewhere NSFW.

 

[Rafin]

Mr Zoat Why is this Paul's Ring so much more eloquent than those of other Pauls (except Grayven's Yellow one)? And it says it doesn't think, but it clearly intuits what questions to ask to make its point and also catches the differences that matter more to baseline humans than whatever other minute consequences the serum must have had on Paul's thought processes.

 

[Gladiusone]

So is this Paul taking the Timberwolf serum from BtAS? One of Bruce's friends, an athlete, wanted a steroid that was undetectable. It let him train harder than ever before ... but there were side effects. Psychological and emotional at first (standard roid rage, etc) then physical (think werewolf).

 

[Mr Zoat]

So is this Paul taking the Timberwolf serum from BtAS? One of Bruce's friends, an athlete, wanted a steroid that was undetectable. It let him train harder than ever before ... but there were side effects. Psychological and emotional at first (standard roid rage, etc) then physical (think werewolf).

Click to shrink...

No.

 

[thebishop8]

So is this Paul taking the Timberwolf serum from BtAS? One of Bruce's friends, an athlete, wanted a steroid that was undetectable. It let him train harder than ever before ... but there were side effects. Psychological and emotional at first (standard roid rage, etc) then physical (think werewolf).

Click to shrink...

Mr Zoat said that he was leaning towards evil serum as the explanation.