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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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Pinklestia said:
That gets easily taken down in cartoons.

The only time he was a real menace in a cartoon was in that Superman Animated episode.
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Sure but Young Justice isn't exactly known for being fluffy lighthearted stories. If there was a DC canon where Sinestro is ten pounds of fuck in a three pound bag, it's probably this one.
 
AverusBlack said:
Sure but Young Justice isn't exactly known for being fluffy lighthearted stories. If there was a DC canon where Sinestro is ten pounds of fuck in a three pound bag, it's probably this one.
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Against Green rookies? Sure?

Against a guy so good with the orange light that he is basically made of it and is freaking hard to kill and keep him dead?
 
Pinklestia said:
Against Green rookies? Sure?

Against a guy so good with the orange light that he is basically made of it and is freaking hard to kill and keep him dead?
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Hey remember that time Paul was all "lol it's just Bane and a hostage, it's no big deal"?

Don't underestimate a guy you've never met. Paul is powerful, but it's never the obvious things you can prepare for that get you.
 
That or he wants to get a feel on the burgeoning Orange Lantern Corp and its leadership; he's already been contacted by Vril and Paul has been making waves across space, the orange light deals in avarice and they been mostly recruiting people who are greedy or have strong desires but aren't the most morally righteous, and whether they can be influenced in helping him destroy the Green Lantern Corp.

I figure he tries to get a bead on Paul by kidnapping one of his own, then discuss what exactly does Paul aim to accomplish, then depending on things go it devolves into a fight where Paul may or may not kill Sinestro as it would cement Kalmin in his corner as well as show of strength. Or he keeps him alive to better understand the Yellow light and ring if they decide to expand the current corp into a multi-light wielding organization, at the very least to be used a peace offering to the GLC to smooth over any future problem with them, and removes a possible future threat.

Plus even if Sinestro could call upon Parallax to aid him in a fight Paul can easily channel the Ophidian not to mention his enlightenment, and that time helping Siskin take control of the Horror Thing, makes Paul resistant into being cowed into defeat with pure fear.
 
Medidiction (part 17)
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    • 27th August 2012
    09:14 GMT

    The last of the surviving robots -now firmly under my control- marches out into the monastery's space dock. I finish patching up the armour and defence turrets of the upper portion of the monastery as the monks continue laying out their dead. It turns out that this monastery prefers to store the bodies of believers until they can be transported to the Source Wall, reuniting body and soul before their creator.

    "A Yellow Lantern."

    Now with the immediate threat to people under my protection dealt with I rather need to get on with rescuing Lantern Onik.

    "Ah-. Yes. I thought it was just some sort of teleportation system, but then I saw the sigil of fear on their chest."

    "Not Sinestro?"

    The monk shakes his head. "I would recognise him. It was a Spider Guilder."

    So is Sinestro lending his ring to people now? Kalmin said that he only made the one, but… How hard would it be for other Weaponers to make more once they'd seen it done? Sinestro would certainly be able to contact them; heck, in the comics he just straight up enslaved them and forced them to work on making rings for his new... Corps.

    Manhunters. He convinced Hank Henshaw to work with him by promising to find a way to kill him. But Doctor Henry Henshaw 16 is an astrophysicist happily employed by NASA-. Or he was last time I checked before the Sheeda attack. But he definitely didn't go into space and get turned into an energy being who could jump from machine to machine.

    Anyway, Old School Weaponers would have died before working for an alien under those conditions. But given how far they'd fallen… I mean, Varnathon would have taken a cash payment, and the others… Yes, I could see it.

    And of course as First Lantern I'm sure that Sinestro could have gotten his hands on a portal to a parallel universe at some point.

    Right. We're fairly close to a couple of big and old Spider Guild Septs here. The Green Lantern Corps has made it clear that continued expansion at the cost of others will not be tolerated, but that doesn't mean that they won't launch the occasional raid just to test the defences. I could easily see a Guilder making a deal with Sinestro to break the status quo. Or just taking a natty weapon. I doubt the Guildmasters would commit to something big without some fairly convincing proof…

    But they're a highly internally-unified culture that invades people's homes and eats them, but who have never quite made it into the top tier. They wouldn't be a bad place to start if he wanted an Army of Fear.

    "Do you have any idea why you were targeted?"

    "I assume that the Guilder was seeking Novice Onik. Though how they knew in advance that he would be here, I don't know."

    I didn't notice any sort of Guilder monitoring device when I went through the monastery. Given the damage, I'll have to take their word for it that their network wasn't subverted. So either the Guilder was monitoring the area, or someone in the monastery back on Karax tipped them off.

    Or it was pure chance.

    Right.

    "Did the Guilder say anything?"

    "Not in my hearing."

    I access the monastery's monitoring network, but from the images I'm getting it looks like the Guilder didn't say anything out loud at all. Can't really get a good idea of their skill level from how well they overran a monastery full of scared monks, but I'm not seeing anything too scary.

    How did Onik lose?

    If he was caught in the middle of confronting his fears, and the Guilder could detect that, it certainly would be plausible. Otherwise… Onik doesn't have all that much combat experience. He might have been overwhelmed. Or outfought by someone trained by Sinestro. I'm certainly not afraid of a random Guilder with a ring.

    "Illustres to Lantern Xor. Finished the lower repairs?"

    "Yes, Illustres."

    "Work with the monks to repair their monastery. Defend it if necessary. I'm going after Lantern Onik."

    "No support?"

    "I'll have Onik, once I find him. And we're never entirely alone."

    "As you will, Illustres."

    Right, that's the monks looked after. Guilder space is in that direction. Core worlds… There, border territory where they tolerate alien traders across there…

    Those places are usually fairly fear-filled. Aliens are tolerated but they aren't protected. Cannibalism is perfectly normal, Guild worlds being 'good' places to offload slaves without specialist skills. There are always buyers, even if the price isn't all that good.

    Honestly, the fear's so intense that I'm not sure that I could pick out a Yellow Lantern.

    Easier to just make them come to me.

    I

    step out

    , reappearing on the bridge of a slaver ship with packed holds. I don't bother mucking around, I just send a beam of orange energy into both brains of the members of the slug-like species that are running the ship before having my ring savage the ship's computer for recent news. No mention of a Lantern, but they have some data on Guilder space that I lacked. No crew outside the bridge, so I set the auto-pilot to fly the ship back to Karax-controlled space. Then I

    step out

    and reappear outside of the ship before warping towards… Chughraghahh. I suppose that I can just about pronounce that. As I approach I feel the interdiction system try and stop me or slow me down. Spitefully, I push it away, a reaction which will most likely cause the emitters to explode quite enthusiastically.

    And then the warp ends and I'm there, in the high orbital plane above Chughraghahh.

    And there's the largest ship in the defence fleet.

    And there's the area of densest habitation.

    A colossal orange dragon claw appears around the ship, tears through the shields without apparent effort and then pushes. The ship deforms as it drops, and moments later the friction causes the now-unshielded outer portions and leaking atmosphere to catch fire. The ship wasn't designed to ever enter an atmosphere, but all things considered it's doing fairly well. For a first attempt. The dust cloud when it hits isn't quite as big as what I got from the Citadel Complex, but it's a respectable first attempt.

    "This is the Illustres of the Orange Lantern Corps. I believe that the Guild has one of my Lanterns. And one of its own Lanterns. Until they are brought before me I will keep killing until every one of you disgusting insults to sentience on this miserable rock are dead, and then I will move on to the next world. I am not interested in your surrender. Get me what I want or die."

    Shots plink off my construct armour from one of the monitor stations, so I make that my next target. A claw forms and squeezes, inflicting critical structural damage before a flick of the hand tosses the station downwards.

    "Take as long as you need."
     
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    • You know, if I recall right, the Sinestro Corp Rings don't power themselves off of their wielder's fear, but draw more so from the fear of their opponents, though mastering their own fear certainly helps them in cases where they can't draw on the opponent...
     
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    It turns out that this monastery prefers to store the bodies of believers until they can be transported to the Source Wall, reuniting body and soul before their creator.
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    Given how far it is that may take time.

    Unless they have a way to go there in a fast manner.

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    Not Sinestro?"

    The monk shakes his head. "I would recognise him. It was a Spider Guilder."
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    So he's recruiting.

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    So is Sinestro lending his ring to people now? Kalmin said that he only made the one, but… How hard would it be for other Weaponers to make more once they'd seen it done? Sinestro would certainly be able to contact them; heck, in the comics he just straight up enslaved them and forced them to work on making rings for his new... Corps.
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    Power rings could multiply in the comics, so maybe his can too.

    Or he figured out how to make his own, like Abin Sur did in the comics.

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    Henshaw 16 is an astrophysicist happy employed by NASA-.
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    'happily employed'

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    into an energy being would could jump from machine to machine.
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    'who could'

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    didn't notice any sort of Guilder monitoring device when I went though the monastery. Given
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    'through the monastery'

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    So either the Guilder was monitoring the area, or someone in the monastery back on Karax tipped them off.
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    The abbot who may be Sinestro.

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    Or it was pure chance.

    Right.
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    You're learning.

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    Take as long as you need."
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    "But be quick"
     
    Lone Courier 6 said:
    You know, if I recall right, the Sinestro Corp Rings don't power themselves off of their wielder's fear, but draw more so from the fear of their opponents, though mastering their own fear certainly helps them in cases where they can't draw on the opponent...
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    Yep, yellow rings and their constructs become stronger the more afraid the opponent is, but they don't recharge through that manner.

    Blue rings can recharge by the hope around them.
     
    The Spider Guild (the one Queen and her group aside) are unrepentant cannibal slavers.

    They've aligned themselves with Sinestro and kidnapped one of OL's Corpsmen.

    They have chosen death.
     
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    27th August 2012
    09:14 GMT

    The last of the surviving robots -now firmly under my control- marches out into the monastery's space dock. I finish patching up the armour and defence turrets of the upper portion of the monastery as the monks continue laying out their dead. It turns out that this monastery prefers to store the bodies of believers until they can be transported to the Source Wall, reuniting body and soul before their creator.
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    So the assault was definitely not bloodless.One more thing to add to Sinestro's ledger. Presumably whoever did this had assumed that any aid would take some time to arrive, even a Lantern, and they could be long gone. Even OL took a few seconds to arrive after Onik's signal went dead. Very quick movement on the attacker's part, certainly.

    "A Yellow Lantern."

    Now with the immediate threat to people under my protection dealt with I rather need to get on with rescuing Lantern Onik.
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    If the attacker, Sinestro or otherwise, knew what they were doing, Onik would be kept in some sort of catatonic state to prevent him forming desires. That will make tracking him via the Honden difficult.

    "Ah-. Yes. I thought it was just some sort of teleportation system, but then I saw the sigil of fear on their chest."

    "Not Sinestro?"

    The monk shakes his head. "I would recognise him. It was a Spider Guilder."
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    Explains the Guild bots. But how did they get a Yellow Ring? Has Sinestro already begun the work of making a Corps? Is this guilder exceptional, or is there a whole Spider Guild base of Yellow Lanterns out there? Multiple? This bodes ill.

    So is Sinestro lending his ring to people now? Kalmin said that he only made the one, but… How hard would it be for other Weaponers to make more once they'd seen it done? Sinestro would certainly be able to contact them; heck, in the comics he just straight up enslaved them and forced them to work on making rings for his new... Corps.

    Manhunters. He convinced Hank Henshaw to work with him by promising to find a way to kill him. But Doctor Henry Henshaw 16 is an astrophysicist happy employed by NASA-. Or he was last time I checked before the Sheeda attack. But he definitely didn't go into space and get turned into an energy being would could jump from machine to machine.
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    So no ersatz Fantastic Four in this timeline... And hopefully not ever, since it didn't end well for them. Only Terri Henshaw survived... As for the Weaponers... Varnathon could easily have made arrangements in the brief time he ruled...

    Anyway, Old School Weaponers would have died before working for an alien under those conditions. But given how far they'd fallen… I mean, Varnathon would have taken a cash payment, and the others… Yes, I could see it.

    And of course as First Lantern I'm sure that Sinestro could have gotten his hands on a portal to a parallel universe at some point.
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    Probably as part of pursuing a code 1963 ('Subject escaped into an interdimensional vortex.') Though I doubt the Guardians would have appreciated him poking the Anti-Matter universe.

    Right. We're fairly close to a couple of big and old Spider Guild Septs here. The Green Lantern Corps has made it clear that continued expansion at the cost of others will not be tolerated, but that doesn't mean that they won't launch the occasional raid just to test the defences. I could easily see a Guilder making a deal with Sinestro to break the status quo. Or just taking a natty weapon. I doubt the Guildmasters would commit to something big without some fairly convincing proof…

    But they're a highly internally-unified culture that invades peoples' homes and eats them, but who have never quite made it into the top tier. They wouldn't be a bad place to start if he wanted an Army of Fear.
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    Plenty of them to be wanting greater power... It's a plausible theory.

    "Do you have any idea why you were targeted?"

    "I assume that the Guilder was seeking Novice Onik. Though how they knew in advance that he would be here, I don't know."
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    Yes, indeed. I have to wonder who knew Onik was coming here. Surely he'd have mentioned it to the abbot of the Lanternist monastery. Big honking red flag...

    I didn't notice any sort of Guilder monitoring device when I went though the monastery. Given the damage, I'll have to take their word for it that their network wasn't subverted. So either the Guilder was monitoring the area, or someone in the monastery back on Karax tipped them off.

    Or it was pure chance.
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    'Once is happenstance', sure... If another of your Lanterns is attacked, then you've got a case. Still thinking the abbot was involved, for my part.

    Right.

    "Did the Guider say anything?"

    "Not in my hearing."
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    To be fair, I rather think it might have been hard to hear in the noise of combat.

    I access the monastery's monitoring network, but from the images I'm getting it looks like the Guilder didn't say anything out loud at all. Can't really get a good idea of their skill level from how well they overran a monastery full of scared monks, but I'm not seeing anything too scary.

    How did Onik lose?
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    That is an especially good question.

    If he was caught in the middle of confronting his fears, and the Guilder could detect that, it certainly would be plausible. Otherwise… Onik doesn't have all that much combat experience. He might have been overwhelmed. Or outfought by someone trained by Sinestro. I'm certainly not afraid of a random Guilder with a ring.
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    Or he surrendered to protect his old friends, since he came from this monastery. Don't discount the possibility of hostages. The problem is the sheer speed of the defeat, though. Onik was talking to OL, after all, and didn't sound worried or panicked...

    "Illustres to Lantern Xor. Finished the lower repairs?"

    "Yes, Illustres."

    "Work with the monks to repair their monastery. Defend it if necessary. I'm going after Lantern Onik."
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    I see Xor caught up. But no sign of Dul or Toren? They didn't think to tell them about this? I would expect the Sector Green Lantern to at least want to know this happened.

    "No support?"

    "I'll have Onik, once I find him. And we're never entirely alone."
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    The joy of having one of the seven biggest sticks in the Spectrum... And she likes him, for good measure, unlike some of the Embodiments...

    "As you will, Illustres."

    Right, that's the monks looked after. Guilder space is in that direction. Core worlds… There, border territory where they tolerate alien traders across there…
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    The question is, where would Onik have been taken? Would the leadership of the local Guild worlds want that kind of attention?

    Those places are usually fairly fear-filled. Aliens are tolerated but they aren't protected. Cannibalism is perfectly normal, Guild worlds being 'good' places to offload slaves without specialist skills. There are always buyers, even if the price isn't all that good.

    Honestly, the fear's so intense that I'm not sure that I could pick out a Yellow Lantern.
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    And too many desires to clearly pick out Onik, even if he were conscious. Because if he was conscious, you'd expect him to be resisting his captors...

    Easier to just make them come to me.

    I

    step out
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    Playing bait it is, then. Make a big showy entrance, get everyone's attention, and see what crawls out of their holes.

    , reappearing on the bridge of a slaver ship with packed holds. I don't bother mucking around, I just send a beam of orange energy into both brains of the members of the slug-like species that are running the ship before having my ring savage the ship's computer for recent news. No mention of a Lantern, but they have some data on Guilder space that I lacked. No crew outside the bridge, so I set the auto-pilot to fly the ship back to Karax-controlled space. Then I
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    Bonus: plenty of freed slaves who will be very confused as to why their captors turned around... :D

    step out

    and reappear outside of the ship before warping towards… Chughraghahh. I suppose that I can just about pronounce that. As I approach I feel the interdiction system try and stop me or slow me down. Spitefully, I push it away, a reaction which will most likely cause the emitters to explode quite enthusiastically.
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    I rather suspect it would be hard to speak the Spider Guild's native language without multiple tongues and jaws... Thankfully, you don't have to try.

    And then the warp ends and I'm there, in the high orbital plane above Chughraghahh.

    And there's the largest ship in the defence fleet.

    And there's the area of densest habitation.
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    And here come the fireworks.

    A colossal orange dragon claw appears around the ship, tears through the shields without apparent effort and then pushes. The ship deforms as it drops, and moments later the friction causes the now-unshielded outer portions and leaking atmosphere to catch fire. The ship wasn't designed to ever enter an atmosphere, but all things considered it's doing fairly well. For a first attempt. The dust cloud when it hits isn't quite as big as what I got from the Citadel Complex, but it's a respectable first attempt.
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    Only a 7/10 from the judges, I'm afraid. Not the fanciest orbital drop (I prefer the Sydney Colony Drop from Gundam, personally,) but style points for throwing it bodily rather than using manoeuvring thrusters.

    "This is the Illustres of the Orange Lantern Corps. I believe that the Guild has one of my Lanterns. And one of its own Lanterns. Until they are brought before me I will keep killing until every one of you disgusting insults to sentience on this miserable rock are dead, and then I will move on to the next world. I am not interested in your surrender. Get me what I want or die."
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    Sounds nasty, sure, but the guilders are not nice people. Remember, perfectly willing, able and happy to eat other sophonts. Not much of a moral hit from working over that sort of jackass.

    Shots plink of my construct armour from one of the monitor stations, so I make that my next target. A claw forms and squeezes, inflicting critical structural damage before a flick of the hand tosses the station downwards.

    "Take as long as you need."
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    Well, it might take a few minutes for their chain of command to sort itself out, since you smashed their (presumed) capital. With their flagship...

    To quote Tony Stark: "Don't take my stuff." OL getting straight down to business in getting right on the trail of Onik's captor. I hope he does look back on the abbot's behaviour, and asks Lantern Toren about it when he inevitably shows up to see what the hell is going on. It's just a matter of who gets there first: Green or Yellow.
     
    Weird how he isn't particularly orange-level possessive about "his lantern".... would have though orange would have imparted some effect on his words in that last line of dialog
     
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    Weird how he isn't particularly orange-level possessive about "his lantern".... would have though orange would have imparted some effect on his words in that last line of dialog
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    Paul doesn't really have orange text anymore after his enlightenment.

    He does have it when he's merged with the Ophidian, but that's it.
     
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