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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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Mr Zoat said:
Veganism

1st September 2012
14:01 GMT

I smile as the Justice League taskforce walk or fly through the boom tube. There were a… Wide variety of places where we could have done this, but after some consideration I decided that the Orange Lantern Corps headquarters was the best place for it. Few things say 'I'm powerful and on my home turf' like having one of two Central Power Batteries in the universe standing in the background.
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One of two.. that you know of, Renegade... But then, he hasn't really engaged with the Lantern side of things at all, has he? Too busy building an empire out of a hive of scum and villainy. Can't wait to see him finally meet Sinestro-16 either.

Scott and Barda are joining in, naturally. The League trust Scott to discover if the people in my domain are 'unfree' as Bruce just doesn't have the required knowledge on alien societies and J'onn knows perfectly well that Lynne could make him think that Apokolips was a liberal democracy. Which is probably why they've both gone to Rashashoon instead.

Just because hush tubes are difficult to detect doesn't mean I can't detect you.
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Ah, Batman's playing the 'trust but verify' card, eh? Not unexpected where the Renegade is concerned.

Kal-El's here as well, because we're going to need his muscle. And because the League are quite rightly confident that he could take me in a fight. Me or.. other me, I suppose. Arnus is here to check our legal systems and enforcement processes. Oliver is here because he's trying to keep tabs on Artemis. In a… Concerned family friend sort of way, not in a 'she's a threat to the universe' sort of way.
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Well, she was officially his sidekick. Until she suddenly became an order of magnitude older than him. Wonder how his meta-physique's coming along, since he accepted the whole awakening deal... Didn't he? It's been a while...

Though I suppose that when we were in the far future, Earth was the universe. Darn, I had an opportunity to kill everyone in the universe and feel somewhat morally justified and I didn't take it. I could literally have been the last man in the universe.

And there wouldn't have been any sheep.
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...Wow, that's a hell of a bar. Imagine being that low on someone's list...

And Adam Blake -looking far healthier than he was last time he was here- is joining in because he genuinely likes the place and harbours me no ill feeling. Which is somewhat weird, but… Actually nice. Someone who's actually experienced the universe thinks that what I've done-. What I've admitted doing, is at least justifiable if not actually good. His telepathy hasn't really recovered from what the First did to him, but his telekinesis is stronger than ever. Cranius does good work, when he maintains his focus.
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That's good to hear, at least. Captain Comet's a nice guy, it's good to see him back in the world.

And Komand'r has flown forward to greet him personally because apparently standing in line isn't really a Tamaranean thing, and with me abandoning her for Luna and Duke Oswin preferring his own species she's a bit stuck for suitably armigerous men. A hero from Tamaran's doomed fight with the Citadel now rejuvenated with the help of the Unmen might be just what Tamaranean politics wants.
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And what human man wouldn't pass up a chance to date a beautiful orange space babe? Or a handsome orange space hunk, if they prefer.

Dinah's here for Artemis as well. And Patrick heard about the 'orange swimsuit model' thing and decided to tag along. I don't know how useful he'll be. I mean, it's hard to test how resilient someone is without honestly trying to kill them, I know that he's not… All that strong, his shapeshifting is somewhat irrelevant against people with advanced sensors or… Well, spaceships. Still, more Leaguers forming social bonds with Tamaraneans can only work in my favour.
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Ah, Patrick 'Eel' 'Plastic Man' O'Brien. Depending on the writer, a complete joke or a holy terror. Or both at the same time.

Next to me, Weaponer Lysis studies each of them with interest.

"Is that one some sort of synthetic life form?"
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"I wonder how hard I could stretch it before it breaks?" Seriously, if I were Plas, I'd feel a chill running along my wobbly spine right now.

I smile proudly

"You never visited Earth, did you?"

"I hardly see what that has to do with anything."
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Not even to check on the Red Ring you made for Inspector Talbot? I'm surprised. OR does he come to you for check-ups?

"He's human. His body is made of some sort of ultra flexible-"

"Hey Comet, when do the rest of us get an orange bikini babe?"

"-ultra stretchy material now, but he started as organically human."
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And supposedly the result of being exposed to some manner of 'acid'... Earth Bullshit™, am I right?

Korand'r uncoils herself from Adam a little.

"I have a sister, if you so desire?"
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And Plas just perked up. I doubt Kori is his type, though. But I still ship Kori-Grayson...

Which is an insult to Koriand'r, as Patrick has no particular status here and would drag her slightly down. And an insult to Patrick, as Komand'r knows that and is doing it deliberately. And they'd be horribly mismatched anyway, though I know from personal experience that Koriand'r would be up for letting him experiment with his abilities. And she's experiment right back with her ring, so maybe I should nudge him in a different direction.
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That would be one hell of a party. We've all heard about how kinky the Renegade could get with his ring...

"Welcome to Tamaran!" I walk forwards, raising my right hand in greeting. "Thank you all for coming."

Kal-El nods. "I'm looking forward to having a look at what you've built here."
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:p Well, Farm-boy, you might raise a barn, but the Renegade is an executive, he doesn't do the hard work...

"Personally? Very little. Virtually all of the rebuilding has been done by the Tamaraneans themselves. I create opportunities for rebuilding." I half-turn. "This is Weaponer Diataria Lysis. She's been invaluable in bringing our fleet up to scratch."

I notice Kal-El giving her a very quick once-over with his expanded visual range. He's never dealt with any Qwardians himself, but I'm sure that he's been fully briefed on their activities. Then again, he's not going to stoop to species prejudice, no matter how warranted.
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Then again, the League in this timeline hasn't had someone poking them to do things like reading briefings and threat-files... One thing OL did well in his time with the Team.

"My Clarissi, Vril Dox the Second." I gesture to Komand'r. "Princess Komand'r of Tamaran. And Sub-Commander Karsta Wor-Ul."

Who's giving the impression that Kal-El is an unusually incompetent recruit at her boot camp. They've never actually-
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:eek: Awww, shit. Grab the popcorn, this gon' be good!

"You're kryptonian?"

"You're Seyg-El's grandson. I didn't like him either."
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And yes, the name's meant to rhyme with Jerry Seigel.

He's smiling hopefully. "What are you doing here?"

We decided not to tell Superman about the cloning, because the absolute last thing I want is the Justice League hanging around here long-term. On the other hand, lying isn't an option because Diana's right there.
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Yeah, Clark would feel the need to poke his nose in, just out of curiosity. Which would likely get it punched in by Karsta...

"He needs someone to control the Doomsday."

"That sounds ominous. What is it?"
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True, it's definitely a name to run away from. But really, how else would you name a dreadnought capable of glassing a planet?

I make a show of looking mildly awkward, in the hope that it will reassure them to catch me out on a few things.

"You remember when the team got sent to investigate some excavation work Lex Luthor was carrying out in Texas?"

He clearly doesn't, but Diana nods.
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Worth noting that the Renegade foiled that mission quite handily. And Diana should remember that.

"Turns out that when the Science Council ordered the Kryptonian Stellar Navy scuttled, Admiral Dru-Zod instead sent his flagship to some arse-end planet in the middle of nowhere. Earth, in other words. And since there wasn't much happening in Texas at the time, it buried itself there."

Kal-El's face stills.

"You're saying Lex Luthor has a kryptonian warship."
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...And who basically owns Lex Luthor? Hint, he's tall, grey and standing right there...

"No, I have a kryptonian warship because Lex Luthor works for me. It's in orbit now if you want to take a look."

"Why didn't you tell me about that sooner? Even if you wanted to keep it, that's a part of my history-."
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Bitch, you do not get to claim sole ownership of anything Kryptonian. There are prior claims, kiddo.

Karsta's eyes narrow.

"Your history is being part of the family that ordered the fleet destroyed. You history is your grandfather, great uncles and aunts and the rest of your house scuttling the fleet that could have saved our species when the planet fell apart. You're never even been to Krypton. You never saw Kryptonian society when it still existed. It's not a part of your history at all. I'm only letting you see my ship because Grayven asked me to."
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So play nice, farm boy. That nose-punching is still on the table.

"My family?" He frowns. "What are you talking about?"

Right, because Jor-El almost certainly didn't include that information on the data he sent Kal-El to Earth with.
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What can you say? Clearly he wanted to show his world's history in the best light. And as a member of the Science Council's family...

"House El? The entire Science Council? The isolationist fools who-."

BOOM!
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...That better not be Grayven-16...

Huh? That's not-.

Kara shoots out of the tube opening and halts just in front of her cousin.
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Guessing she's a bit skinnier than her Paragon counterpart because of the radiation exposure, huh? At least she's not wearing that god-awful New 52 'costume'...

"Kal?"

"Yes? Who-?"
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Keeping in mind, she hasn't seen him in the flesh since he was a baby... And you can only get so much from photographs.

She wasn't supposed to put in an appearance just yet, but best foot forward.

"This is Kara Zor-El. Your cousin."
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Kal-el.exe has crashed. Please reboot via percussive maintenance.

Well, that's one hell of a way to finish the opening scenes of a new episode. Not quite an explosion, but that's one hell of a bomb to drop on the Man of Steel. :D Now, it's a Renegade episode, so it's safe to guess that Grayven-16 will be putting in an appearance soon enough. And war will follow him...
 
Chojin Patriarch said:
Well, she was officially his sidekick. Until she suddenly became an order of magnitude older than him. Wonder how his meta-physique's coming along, since he accepted the whole awakening deal... Didn't he? It's been a while...
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I think he got some metaphysical enhancements, but not a full Awakening.

Chojin Patriarch said:
And Plas just perked up. I doubt Kori is his type, though. But I still ship Kori-Grayson...
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Given Dick's animosity towards renegade and Kori actually respecting renegade for all he's done, that may not be the case here.

Though it may happen paragon side.

Chojin Patriarch said:
That would be one hell of a party. We've all heard about how kinky the Renegade could get with his ring...
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Tentacle ogre sex cult.

Chojin Patriarch said:
True, it's definitely a name to run away from. But really, how else would you name a dreadnought capable of glassing a planet?
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I'd name it something non threatening, like The Cuddler.

That way when someone tries to fight me and laughs at the name of my ship, I can get immense satisfaction from watching their smile fall.

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What can you say? Clearly he wanted to show his world's history in the best light. And as a member of the Science Council's family...
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I'm reminded of that Gods and Monsters movie where Luthor only gave Kal El certain bits of information about his homeworld since he was worried he'd try to emulate his biological father.

Jor El may have done something similar and only wanted his son to emulate the best of their species instead of the worse.

And given that Kryptonians apparently drove at least one sapient species to near extinction, he may have been right.

A genocidal xenophobic Superman is just a nightmare waiting to be unleashed.
 
BOOM!

Huh? That's not-.

Kara shoots out of the tube opening and halts just in front of her cousin.

"Kal?"

"Yes? Who-?"

She wasn't supposed to put in an appearance just yet, but best foot forward.

"This is Kara Zor-El. Your cousin."
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Oh shit! I forgot about Renegade Supergirl. This is either really a really good day for Kal or an emotionally exhausting day.
 
Mr Zoat said:
And Sub-Commander Karsta Wor-Ul."

Who's giving the impression that Kal-El is an unusually incompetent recruit at her boot camp. They've never actually-

"You're kryptonian?"

"You're Seyg-El's grandson. I didn't like him either."

He's smiling hopefully. "What are you doing here?"

We decided not to tell Superman about the cloning, because the absolute last thing I want is the Justice League hanging around here long-term. On the other hand, lying isn't an option because Diana's right there.
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Honestly, I'm curious to see what an awakened Kryptonian would be like, if such a thing were possible. I realize Karsta isn't exactly a member of Grayven's retinue so much as an erstwhile ally and partner by common goals.

Given that he can awaken members of the Light who work with him, could something similar be done with Karsta? I'm imagining her filling in an almost Granny Goodness-esque role within Grayven's court as it were.

Also yay, Kara's on her feet!
 
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Honestly, I'm curious to see what an awakened Kryptonian would be like, if such a thing were possible.
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It's currently not possible, but if I were to guess I'd say it'd be like Superman 1.000.000 in terms of power.

Though that may take time to reach.

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Given that he can awaken members of the Light who work with him, could something similar be done with Karsta? I'm imagining her filling in an almost Granny Goodness-esque role within Grayven's court as it wer
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It's not possible to Awaken her due to her not being born on Earth.

Though seeing as Vril may be working on the X'hal thing then maybe a similar technique can be applied to her.

That's how Superman 1.000.000 achieved his level of power, by absorbing too much energy and them becoming something like a higher being.
 
Chojin Patriarch said:
I meant the one with the crotch-plate. That outfit is nasty, but it pales in comparison to that fashion mistake...
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*google-senpai time*

Wow, yeah that's a crotch-plate. Who thought this was a good idea? Just imagine the jabbing of the ridged edges on someone's inner thighs! It looks almost torturous.
 
Darko said:
It's currently not possible, but if I were to guess I'd say it'd be like Superman 1.000.000 in terms of power.

Though that may take time to reach.



It's not possible to Awaken her due to her not being born on Earth.

Though seeing as Vril may be working on the X'hal thing then maybe a similar technique can be applied to her.

That's how Superman 1.000.000 achieved his level of power, by absorbing too much energy and them becoming something like a higher being.
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Makes sense, ah well it would still be pretty cool.
 
Darko said:
Well there's also the Indigo one and whatever Sinestro is potentially doing.
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And the violet one on Zamaron. It would be really weird if they didn't have a central power battery (I know they did in some continuities, but figuring out if they did in one Zoat acknowledges is tougher).
 
I'm a bit lost when it comes do the chapter before this one. Who is Gloria and why is she Lynne's tutor? When did she become her tutor? And whose corpse did they use and what was her importance in the Paragon timeline? Or the canon one? And why did she instead die in this one?
 
Rafin said:
I'm a bit lost when it comes do the chapter before this one. Who is Gloria and why is she Lynne's tutor?
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Gloria is a succubus who has been living on Earth for some time and has actually made an effort to fit in. The Renegade contacted her to become a tutor for his younger children because they needed someone to learn to control their sex demon powers. She has nothing to do with Lynne.
When did she become her tutor?
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Back here, mentioned again here.
And whose corpse did they use and what was her importance in the Paragon timeline?
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The pertinent events didn't happen in the SI's timeline.
Or the canon one? And why did she instead die in this one?
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Because Buzz killed her.
 
CTrees said:
And the violet one on Zamaron. It would be really weird if they didn't have a central power battery (I know they did in some continuities, but figuring out if they did in one Zoat acknowledges is tougher).
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They may have one in the Paragon timeline since they now have rings, but I'm not so sure about the Renegade timeline.

They don't seem to have rings there and Ghi'ata just uses that crystal that Carol Ferris used.
 
Does Doomsday exist in this continuity I know he was in the Paragon timeline? If he does that mean Kryptonians named a world-ending science experiment and a warship the same thing?
 
Bud-E said:
Does Doomsday exist in this continuity I know he was in the Paragon timeline? If he does that mean Kryptonians named a world-ending science experiment and a warship the same thing?
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Doomsday didn't technically exist in the Paragon side either.

Here he was a Kryptonian scientist that achieved a form of immortality, but became a monster in the process, which is different from his canon self where he was an experiment from ancient Kryptons past.

Look up Nam-Ek, I'm pretty sure he basically inspired Doomsday.
 
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