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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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Chojin Patriarch said:
Maltusians aren't really given to hyperbole.
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Well the Guardians kinda are, since they don't guard the entire universe, just a few galaxies.

Chojin Patriarch said:
Once you finish getting chewed out by her, at least. She really needs to remember, you need minders.
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As I previously said, that's just asking people to leave the Corps.

If they see the shit he gets involved in then they're going to run to the other side of the universe.

Chojin Patriarch said:
Or the other two? Because they seem to have been completely forgotten about in all this. Bet they're hiding in a closet somewhere.And not immediately offering Rings, OL? :D Finally learning some reserve
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Ohh, please.

We both know Paul doesn't learn anything this quickly.

It takes him months or even years to learn things others would learn in seconds.

Chojin Patriarch said:
Since Phoebe, if I remember right, is a Goddess of dreams, amongst other things?
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That'd kinda make her a counterpart to Luna.

Both are connected to darkness, the moon and dreams.

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Leaving a trail of assorted fluids behind them, no doubt. And a healthy respect for ladies with horns.
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Respect isn't the right word.
 
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Is the plan to go forward and establish leadership with no Gods? I think that could work cause after everything I can see them coming to the conclusion all Gods are terrible.
 
Bud-E said:
Is the plan to go forward and establish leadership with no Gods? I think that could work cause after everything I can see them coming to the conclusion all Gods are terrible.
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The plan at present is to tend to the living and bury the dead. 'How should a people best be ruled' is a question that will keep.
 
My depiction of today's update:
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Mr Zoat said:
"Yes. Sorry, I'm just now appreciating that that wasn't obvious. The Controllers designed them as system extermination weapons, then stored them here when they decommissioned them. Since we now know that the Apokoliptians can get into their computers using them, I'm… Going to need to request that they be kept away from this site until we can do something about the place."
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Trying to keep track of how many things "them" refers to here:

Mr Zoat said:
"The Controllers designed them as system extermination weapons, then stored them here when they decommissioned them. "
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Here, "them" refers to the Sun Eaters.

Mr Zoat said:
"Since we now know that the Apokoliptians can get into their computers using them,"
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Does it still refer to the Sun Eaters here? I thought they were using the seed things to get into Maltusian systems.

Mr Zoat said:
"Going to need to request that they be kept away from this site until we can do something about the place."
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Is this still the Eaters? The seeds? The New Gods?
 
Bud-E said:
In Zoat's story aren't all of Rhea's Demi-Gods from the same alien species?
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Yes, you should just ignore that Sparta and Athyns are obviously not the same species since one is green with eyes of a solid color and the other is brown with eyes that have whites, pupils, and irises. :)
 
Stsword said:
Yes, you should just ignore that Sparta and Athyns are obviously not the same species since one is green with eyes of a solid color and the other is brown with eyes that have whites, pupils, and irises. :)
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Yeah, in the comics Sparta came from a place called Synriannaq, while Athyns came from Karrakan.

I guess Zoat can make them be of the same species here but just a different ethnicity.
 
Darko said:
Yeah, in the comics Sparta came from a place called Synriannaq, while Athyns came from Karrakan.

I guess Zoat can make them be of the same species here but just a different ethnicity.
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Although now that you mention it there's no reason why Karrakan couldn't have more than one native sapient species.

It's not like DC Earth didn't have metal people and those fish guys Zoat likes bringing up in this fic.
 
Mr Zoat said:
The mists coalesce into a humanoid-.

"I am not impressed."

"Not impressed that I worked out that you used their nightmares as an entry point to the local-?"

She stalks up to me, glaring straight into my eyes. She's gotten taller.

"Not impressed that you left me here to be overwhelmed by your enemies!"

"They're not my enemies and we've made peace since then. The other two?"

She-. Hah! She grows a little, glaring imperiously down at me. I hadn't realised that she was sensitive about her height. "Still in the local aether. It's unformatted but oddly pliable."

"Good show. We need-."

"Ah."

I glance at the Karrakanian with the Seed pressed against their forehead who is awake and trying their best not to move. I take the Seed from them.

"You can go."

They roll off the cot and sprint for the exit.
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You know? She's rather cute when she's angry.
 
Bud-E said:
Does Donna have an official origin in DC? I know it changed a lot, but is there one that people say is definitive cannon?
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They are all canon, that's the problem.

I think her current origin is that she's a murder golem made by misandrist Amazons upset that Diana didn't want to Lorena Bobbitt the entirety of Man's World who was then brainwashed with memories of growing up Diana's sister so she could develop past being a murder golem made by psychotically misandrist Amazons.

Her last origin before Flashpoint was that she was a mirror image of Diana made real temporarily, I think by the Neanderthal Amazon, not sure, who was kidnapped by a supervillain and was reincarnated magically into one crappy life after another.

Honestly I prefer the Titan seed origin, or even the "normal girl altered by the purple healing ray into being given Diana's powers on a biomolecular level."
 
Sungate (supplementary, Renegade Option)
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    Waving the cheerful-looking Sassy Saddles goodbye, Rarity walks out of her Canterlot fancy shop, sees me waiting and manages not to sigh.

    "So?"

    "She knows somepony she thinks will be suitable. Naturally, I will need to check the quality of their work to make certain that they're up to my standard, but we both think that this will work."

    I nod and fall in alongside her as she trots down the street. Canterlot streets are curious. Despite not having motor vehicles they are clearly divided into pavements and roads, and far wider than the relatively few carts now in evidence require. Maybe things get very busy during the early hours of the morning?

    "Glad to hear it. So… We good?"

    "We are average. I have no greater fondness for you than I do somepony I have never met."

    I nod. "I'll take it. How are things with the Diamond Dogs?"

    Rarity lets out a quiet throat-clearing noise.

    "We have… An arrangement. They're willing to trade tools and fresh food for a portion of their gem stones, and I take the time to guide them to the best quality deposits when I visit."

    "You see? Now you can get what you need for your work without theft or child labour!"

    "…serve to keep us divided, unable…"

    Of course, I… Rather imagine that Spike would prefer it the other way around.

    She cough-throat clears, then raises her right forehoof to her mouth for a moment before lowering it back to the pavement.

    "Yes. Well. I'm sure that we've both learned something valuable from the experience."

    "I think I'll quit while I'm all square."

    "…free from the tyranny of…"

    "So you have learned something."

    "Ah… Could be. You want me to open a boom tube back to Ponyville?"

    "I think that I will take a little time to peruse the boutiques of Canterlot. Competitor research, as it were."

    "Fine with me. You going to make your own way back, or do you need me to hang around?"

    "I'm.. perfectly…" Rarity looks past me at some sort of pony street preacher who is being widely ignored by the few passers-by, and gives her a slight frown before returning her attention to me. "Perfectly able to locate the station without you."

    "No fur off my nose. Just thought you might appreciate the faster journey. Guess I'll see you later, then."

    "I suppose that it's possible." She looks me over, then turns and trots towards… Another clothing shop.

    Meh.

    I'm getting a few stares, but it looks like the pony reaction to crazy street preachers is the same as the human reaction: head down and walk past them. As a result, no one is stopping to look at the giant alicorn. Including the crazy street preacher, who's so far into her spiel that I'm not even sure if she's aware of her surroundings.

    Ah, okay. Not much going on back on Earth that needs my attention, Vega's settling down nicely, I've returned my relations with the Bearerherd to neutral and Luna's been flicking her tail in what I think is meant to be a suggestive way at me lately. No need to go home just yet.

    "…experience true equality!"

    You know what? I'm going to see what that's all about.

    I amble in the direction of the mare now taking a moment to breathe, and slowly becoming aware of exactly how much attention the locals are paying her. Her muzzle sets in a discordant protosnarl as she stares after a nearby couple, who spot her expression and hurry away a little faster.

    "Hey."

    She turns her face towards me, snarl vanishing as she fixes her expression into 'politely persuasive' for a moment before realising what I am and blinking in confusion. But the sales script has already been activated.

    "Hello, sir! Have you come to hear how all ponies can be truly equal?"

    "I was wondering what this was about. Pretty sure all citizens have equality under the law."

    "'The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread'. But is that really all we can hope for?"

    Probably-crazy pony has a pale lilac pelt and a purple mane, with a cutie mark of an equals sign. Explains that, then.

    "Probably. Different ponies have different abilities and desires, so there are always going to be differences."

    "But what if they didn't."

    "Ah… In… What sense?"

    "What if all ponies had the same abilities?"

    "I don't think that's possible. I mean, if someone spends time working on developing their skills at something then they're going to get better at it. And it's just inefficient to constantly switch jobs."

    "But that presupposes that anypony can get as good at another job as another pony. And as long as we have cutie marks, that will never be true."

    I raise my eyebrows. "Oh?"

    "Yes." Her grin is more than a little manic. "Think about it. A pony with a cutie mark in… I don't know, snowboarding, will have a greater understanding of snowboarding than anypony else, no matter how experienced they are! Eventually they'll get to the point where they can't have a meaningful conversation with anypony who doesn't have that mark about it. And many ponies make their special talent the centre of their lives."

    "Ok-."

    She nods enthusiastically. "And that's why we have to abolish them."

    "Abolish them?"

    "Yes."

    "You know, I've had this theory that they're actually parasites, drawn to the pony body when they discover their special talents."

    "R-really?" She blinks, then shifts back into salespony mode. "I mean, great! And not at all crazy!"

    "Right." I nod. "Glad you see it that way. What is your proposed fix?"

    "I was able to find a wand that lets me remove cutie marks and place them in crystal prisons, where they can't separate us from our fellow ponies any longer!"

    I nod. "Neat. And then you could network them."

    Another blink. "Network them?"

    "Sure. Like… Each knot is a special talent, and each strand of rope is a connection from one pony to another. You could give everyone access to everyone else's special talents. That way, anyone can step into anyone else's role without any loss of efficiency."

    She tilts her head a little to the left, frowning. "I.. don't…"

    "Once you've extracted the special talent, you could create an entire library of special talents. Let ponies swap talents in and out, or… Allow them to connect to the entire group of marks. Let them draw on it, or… Maybe even draw on all of them at once so that every pony has every talent."

    "That…" Her eyes widen. "That's brilliant!"

    "Well, you know, alicorns are the most equal of ponies, being equally earth pony, pegasus pony and unicorn pony. Why don't I introduce you to-?"

    There's a teal flash, and she's gone.

    Huh.

    What a strange pony.

    "I'm.. perfectly…" Rarity looks past me at some sort of pony street preacher-. Starlight Glimmer? Been a few weeks since I've seen her, and Luna hasn't mentioned her. Wonder what she's been up to? Our Town is nowhere near Canterlot. Starlight's being widely ignored by the few passers-by, and Rarity gives her a slight frown before returning her attention to me. "Perfectly able to locate the station without you."

    "No fur off my nose. Just thought you might appreciate the faster journey. Guess I'll see you later, then."

    "I suppose that it's possible." She looks me over, then turns and trots towards… Another clothing shop.

    Meh.

    I'm getting a few stares, but it looks like the pony reaction to crazy street preachers is the same as the human reaction: head down and walk past them. As a result, no one is stopping to look at the giant alicorn. Including Starlight Glimmer herself, who's so far into her spiel that I'm not even sure if she's aware of her surroundings.

    Ah, okay. Not much going on back on Earth that needs my attention, Vega's settling down nicely, I've returned my relations with the Bearerherd to neutral and Luna's been flicking her tail in what I think is meant to be a suggestive way at me lately. No need to go home just yet.

    "…experience true equality!"

    You know what? I'm going to see what that's all about.

    I amble in the direction of the mare now taking a moment to breathe, and slowly becoming aware of exactly how much attention the locals are paying her. Her muzzle sets in a discordant protosnarl as she stares after a nearby couple, who spot her expression and hurry away a little faster.

    "Hey."

    She turns her face towards me, snarl vanishing as she fixes her expression into 'politely persuasive' for a moment before realising who I am and blinking in confusion. I can see almost the exact moment she moves her mouth to start her sales script and then clamps down as she recognises me.

    "He-. Uh. Hello s-. Grayven, hello Grayven."

    She shakes her head, ears flopping down.

    I look up at the large equals sign banner behind her, and then down-. The grey equals sign on her haunches has been replaced by a stylised purple star with a waft of teal smoke rising off it. Fits her pelt and mane better, though I'm not sure how it fits her outlook.

    "What happened to your cutie mark?"

    "Oooh. Ah. That's ah…" She sighs. "The equals sign was painted on. I wanted to show ponies how committed I was to the cause of equality."

    "And that's your actual mark?"

    She nods solemnly. "Yes. My special talent is magic."

    I-. Hang on. "Sunset Shimmer, magic, Twilight Sparkle, magic, Starlight Glimmer, also magic."

    "Ah…"

    "Should we be looking out for a mare named Nightfall Twinkle?"

    "No, that's not how.. it…" She raises her right forehoof to her chin and looks thoughtful. "I don't think that's how it works. Though ponies do often develop talents related to their names."

    "Yeah, I noticed that too. Do their parents get magic intuition?"

    "I don't know. I could never get anypony to agree to let me study it." She gives a quiet snort and bows her head slightly. "I don't understand how so few other ponies are interested in this!"

    "In my experience, intelligent species don't like reflecting on their underlying assumptions. Questioning cutie marks? That's more than any of them want to think about."

    "You proved that at your talk."

    "So what are you doing here?"

    "I'm trying to persuade more ponies to volunteer for my experiments. I've had… Some success-"

    "Already?"

    "-with-. Ah, yes?"

    "Because I was expecting something this complicated to take years."

    "Oh. Ah, thanks. I talked the zebra alchemist Zecora into telling me how the cutie pox potion worked. I can replicate it no problem, but fine control is… Ah… Getting.. there."

    "Well, you've already made more progress than anyone else in the history of Equestria. Feel proud."

    "Thank you." She stands up a little straighter. "I will."

    "Though if I might suggest..? I don't think random street corners is the best place to go for volunteers of magical experiments. Have you considered older students from the School for Gifted Unicorns?"

    "I was planning on taking the volunteers back to Our Town…"

    "I could probably talk them into letting you use their lab space."

    "Oh. Um. That.. would be great." She hops down off the stage and trots over to me. "I'm a little surprised that you're being this supportive. Most ponies…"

    "Well, you know, alicorns are the most equal of ponies, being equally earth pony, pegasus pony and unicorn pony. Let's go track down the dean…"
     
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    • Mr Zoat said:
    and far wider than the relatively few carts now in evidence now require
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    Maybe remove one 'now'

    Mr Zoat said:
    Of course, I… Rather imagine that Spike would prefer it the other way around.
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    If I remember correctly he had a crush on Rarity, so yeah he may be upset that he can't help her out.

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    She looks me over, then turns and trots towards… Another clothing shop.

    Meh.
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    You know what she likes.

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    Including the crazy street preacher, who's so far into her spiel that I'm not even sure if she's aware of her surroundings.
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    This is bound to be interesting.

    In the Chinese sense.

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    No much going on back on Earth
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    'Not much'

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    You know what? I'm going to see what that's all about.
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    Given her spiel I'm betting it's connected to cutie marks.

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    R-really?" She blinks, then shifts back into salespony mode. "I mean, great! And not at all crazy!"
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    This is basically a wonderful showing of what you should do when renegade talks and you don't want to get hurt.

    Compliment his ideas even if you think he's crazy.

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    There's a teal flash, and she's gone.

    Huh.

    What a strange pony
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    Well this will either end in tragedy or in something good.

    This is why you don't leave the Renegade unsupervised.
     
    DonLyn said:
    I'm a bit confused. Didn't Paulven already meet equal sign pony at his 'cutie marks are parasites' presentation?
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    Yep.

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    I'm Starlight Glimmer
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    So Zoat, did you forget about this or is this someone else?

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    And...doesn't Grayven KNOW about MLP?
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    He did spend centuries in Sheeda land and his memory wasn't that good, so it's possible that he forgot.
     
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