With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

crazygrox · Nov 21, 2021

Vaermina said:
It doesn't matter?

Paragon literally can't die, not even to things that literally unmake his soul from existence.

I feel like it was hypothetically possible for that Qwa-matter explosion to unmake his soul, and if he'd not snapped into the Honden he might have been destroyed.
(BTW, been thinking those temporal dodge devices that eliminations Inc had on their defense guns would be helpful the next time he faces a gigantic explosion or something like those fracture pulse cannons. Unfortunate that he didn't get the design.)
Though now that he knows the trick dealing with him requires either magic or some mastery of destructive energies that is sufficient to disallow that technique.

While it kinda seems like he should be unkillable, every time thus far that something has actually gotten through his defenses enough to kill him it's been something that might have been special enough to keep him down permanently. First the imprisonment of his soul in those virtualisation vessels and the deception of Boss Smiley, and then the supernatural properties of Qwa energy.

Edit: but yes an orange light emitting bullet shouldn't work.

Mr Zoat · Nov 21, 2021

16th September 2011
09:21 GMT

So this is Britain.

Amazing how fast things can move when someone in authority wants them to.

Kryptonian technology isn't something that humans can just make; even now we're centuries behind what they were able to make towards the end. And a lot of the more remote places… I imagine that they're much the same. But here in London, I wouldn't know it was the same country.

Aside from anything else, the trains run on time. And all the union officials got shot.

Overman regards me curiously. Which is probably the most open expression I've seen him use in my presence. I suppose that with just the two of us here he doesn't feel the need to play a role quite so much.

"How does it seem to you?"

The old parliament building was annihilated during Operation Sea Lion, absolutely levelled in a demonstration that there are some situations where you can't just keep calm and carry on. Once Prince Edward was reinstalled as King Edward VII, and… The immediate occupation ended, the country obviously needed a new centre of government.

It's… Not the Mother of Parliaments.

The old building was gothic. And I feel mildly bad for not remembering who designed it, but it came to being after the Great Fire of London destroyed the previous one. And I seem to remember that they celebrated the fire as providing a tremendous opportunity for architecture, so maybe I shouldn't feel quite so bad for forgetting their name. The new thing looks a bit Greek, a bit Roman, and a lot German.

"Did Adolf Hitler have any actual involvement in the design?"

"He looked at it once. By that time, he had begun to use amphetamines and his ability to command fine details was weakened."

"He took more than amphetamines in my timeline."

"By the end, he took more than amphetamines here as well. Conquering the world is easy when you have overwhelming power. Controlling the world was not so easy."

Which is why the Kingdom of Britain exists. It actually kept most of its pre-war territory, though the nature of that rule changed somewhat. And the government…

"Did they actually kill Baden-Powell?"

"I do not know that name."

"He was the man who invented the Scouts' Association, what Hitler based the Hitler Youth on. There's a funny story about an exchange the two organisations did before the war, actually. In an attempt to promote peace between Britain and Germany, he arranged for a platoon of ten year old boys from the Scout movement in Britain to go to Germany and stay with the families of Hitler Youth boys. They spent a summer learning about German culture, doing outdoors exercises… Normal youth group stuff. Then the next year the Hitler Youth sent a platoon of boys to Britain. Sixteen and seventeen year old boys who spent the summer bicycling around Britain drawing maps!"

He gives me an awkward smile.

"Did that really happen?"

"I've probably gotten some of the details wrong." I breathe out. "Okay, post war, Britain made a huge effort to attract people from the colonies to come and live in Britain. I'm going to assume that didn't happen here."

"British colonists returned from places awarded to Germany's allies."

"Ah, no. I meant black people from British territories in the Caribbean."

The awkward smile dies.

"No. That did not happen here."

I look down at the streets from our balcony on the up of the parliament building. Yeah, no… Non-white people. That wouldn't be too strange somewhere like Leonard Stanley, but immigrant communities in the post-War period generally went to live in major industrial cities. Even today… 'Today', people who can trace their descent from those immigrants are far more common in cities. This is weird for London. I mean, I didn't pick up on it immediately when I visited Eastbourne. The lack of Eastern Europeans would be more obvious there-.

Yes, that… That wouldn't have happened here either.

I think that the clothing is more conservative, but this is September in Britain. And it's not as if I knew anything about London fashion before I came here. The cars are all electronic, running quietly along well-ordered roads. No… Swastikas or anything like that, but there are a few touches which suggest… I don't know, that there was a bit of an 'Imperium chic' trend a while ago.

"What about..? India? I thought that people from that part of the world were officially okay."

"During the Chinese campaign, Germany was stretched thin due to the manpower required to hold its European territory. The Fuhrer authorised the use of biological weapons. Unfortunately-." He closes his eyes for a moment, takes a deep breath and huffs it out. "No. It was not a matter of fortune. The genetic elements which the organism targeted were shared between the Chinese and the majority of brown-skinned Indians. There are some who were more genetically similar to the people of the Middle East, but a large part of India was depopulated."

"Who lives there now?"

"Some people who survived in remote areas. Colonists from Britain, and other places. It is a… I do not remember the word in Englisch. A political entity which manages its internal affairs but is ruled by the King of Britain."

"Dominion?"

"If that is the word."

I suppose that with all of the natives dead, there would be more cultural commonality between Britain and India. The same religion, the same customs, and therefore no particular desire to be… Independent, but… That could be said of the United States of America as well, and look what happened there.

"Well, it's more advanced, obviously. The people as a whole are different. I imagine that they're taught German in schools?"

"Yes. Does that not happen in your timeline?"

"Ich kann nicht Deutsch gesprechen."

"That is not correct-. Ah, I see."

"It gets taught, but it's three hours a week from twelve to sixteen. And that's if you don't do French or Spanish instead. Beyond that, I can't really tell you until I've had a chance to experience a little more of modern Britain."

He nods.

"I have spoken with the editor of Die Tägliche Welt. He has agreed to sponsor your writing, though the censors are more strict in Germany than they are here. Also, a gift from me, for your birthday."

He reaches into his pocket and pulls out a watch, offering it to me.

"It will never run out of battery power, it will work in extreme environments and it emits a sound that will allow me to find you." I take it from him and wrap it around my left wrist. "It also has an alarm function which will allow you to alert me if your life is threatened, though I will ask you to only use that if there is genuine need. Calls on my time are many."

"Thank you, and I'll try not to end up in peril. You know where I am if you need someone to bounce ideas off."

"Yes. Have a good day."

He looks up, and then shoots up into the sky. I watch him go as he gets smaller and smaller before vanishing from my sight, though I know perfectly well that he could still see me. And hear me, of course.

The official escort who had been hanging back while we spoke begin walking towards me. I get a small flat and a job as a journalist -and apparently as his Jimmy Olsen- and he gets to talk to someone who gets it. I suppose this is as good a life as I can reasonably expect, given the circumstances.

I shrug, and walk towards the functionaries, singing quietly to myself as I do so.

"Es gibt ein Haus in Neu-Berlin,
man nennt es Haus Abendrot.
Es war der Ruin vieler guter Jungs,
von mir, mein Gott litt ich Not."

Darko · Nov 21, 2021

Mr Zoat said:
"He looks at it once

'looked at it'

Mr Zoat said:
By that time, he had began to use

'begun'

Mr Zoat said:
Germany was stretched thinly due

'thin'

Mr Zoat said:
Who lives their now?"

'there now'

moralrelativity · Nov 21, 2021

Mr Zoat said:
"It gets taught, but it's three hours a week from twelve to sixteen.

three -> four
OR
sixteen -> fifteen

AmericanNumbers · Nov 21, 2021

Sigh. The reality of this world is depressing.
(But well done).

Handlewithcare · Nov 21, 2021

So confused. Did Overman find the Paul that ended up in his world? One without a ring?

Ngamer11 · Nov 21, 2021

Please don't tell me this will lead to an invasion of Earth 16 by Earth 10.

Handlewithcare said:
So confused. Did Overman find the Paul that ended up in his world? One without a ring?

A chapter in the previous episode shows how the version of the SI on Earth 10 was doing. Overman agrees with him on a few things, but can't do so in public for political reasons.

Darko · Nov 21, 2021

Handlewithcare said:
So confused. Did Overman find the Paul that ended up in his world? One without a ring?

This version showed up on Nazi World with his ring, had a fight with the local powers, the Nazis, was arrested, later was broken out by the Freedom Fighters, was recaptured, and was finally freed by Overman.

His ring was confiscated and he may potentially help Overman overthrow the Nazi government, and may be somehow connected to the whole Supergirl thing.

Mr Zoat · Nov 21, 2021

Darko said:
'looked at it'
'begun'
'thin'
'there now'

Thank you, corrected.

moralrelativity said:
three -> four
OR
sixteen -> fifteen

I think you misunderstand.

He's saying that Modern Languages are taught for three hours a week during Secondary School. Students start attend Secondary School at the age of 12 and leave at the age of 16.

Darko · Nov 21, 2021

Ngamer11 said:
Please don't tell me this will lead to an invasion of Earth 16 by Earth 10.

It may at least lead to them meeting, Paragon and Nazi World Paul, Overgirl and Overman reuniting etc.

Though if Overman does try time travel to stop the Nazis then he may be behind the Supergirls, and it may cause some problems if it damages the multiverse in some way.

crazygrox · Nov 21, 2021

Darko said:
This version showed up on Nazi World with his ring, had a fight with the local powers, the Nazis, was arrested, later was broken out by the Freedom Fighters, was recaptured, and was finally freed by Overman.

His ring was confiscated and he may potentially help Overman overthrow the Nazi government, and may be somehow connected to the whole Supergirl thing.

Makes me wonder whether he's going to get the ring back, or whether he's going to get wrapped up in all the mess around the timeline tuning fork and Krona and get a completely different orange ring.

Also now I've gotta wonder what the fates of all the other ancient DC characters were in this setting. Like doctor mist, or Black Adam. Have any of them popped up and died by nazi? Or continued to be going concerns?
Did they actually kill Wonder Woman or did she just head back to paradise Island?
Stuff like that. Mostly trying to think up who they would recruit for a hypothetical group of overman's anti-new-reichsmen.

Darko · Nov 21, 2021

Mr Zoat said:
16th September 2011

Zoat this should be 2012, since in the previous post featuring this version it was 2012.

Mr Zoat said:
13th September 2012
08:52 GMT -5

Ngamer11 · Nov 21, 2021

Mr Zoat, what does the SI on Earth 10 go by?

FreeGod · Nov 21, 2021

Well we can expect Nazi earth will be invaded by the Reach soon. Or one of the other invasions.

Darko · Nov 21, 2021

FreeGod said:
Well we can expect Nazi earth will be invaded by the Reach soon. Or one of the other invasions.

Not necessarily.

If there isn't a group like the Light present on Nazi World then the Reach may not pay too much attention to it.

Though Overman has been having space adventures for decades, so it may be possible he'd accidentally attract them there.

However if he knows about them then he can warn his world about their methods.

Chojin Patriarch · Nov 21, 2021

Mr Zoat said:
16th September 2011
09:21 GMT

So this is Britain.

Amazing how fast things can move when someone in authority wants them to.

Ah, another Earth-10 Paul interlude. Evidently Overman pulled some strings to get him out of lock-up. Though I find myself wondering why? The novelty of someone from an alternate Earth, who remembers a different history? I'm sure we'll find out... Eventually.

Kryptonian technology isn't something that humans can just make; even now we're centuries behind what they were able to make towards the end. And a lot of the more remote places… I imagine that they're much the same. But here in London, I wouldn't know it was the same country.

Aside from anything else, the trains run on time. And all the union officials got shot.

...Right. National Socialism wasn't exactly fond of Worker's Unions and the like, was it? Still, I'm picturing a setting more like one of those Thirties sci-fi films, all gleaming towers and white-washed concrete...

Overman regards me curiously. Which is probably the most open expression I've seen him use in my presence. I suppose that with just the two of us here he doesn't feel the need to play a role quite so much.

"How does it seem to you?"

Hmm... With Angelika gone, perhaps he's seeking a friend, a confidant who isn't tied rigidly to the party line...

The old parliament building was annihilated during Operation Sea Lion, absolutely levelled in a demonstration that there are some situations where you can't just keep calm and carry on. Once Prince Edward was reinstalled as King Edward VII, and… The immediate occupation ended, the country obviously needed a new centre of government.

It's… Not the Mother of Parliaments.

That reference, for the sake of clarity. And for reference, Prince Edward had suspected sympathies with the Germans, but stepped down from the throne to marry an American divorcee. He was Hitler's choice to install if Germany had conquered Britain, which obviously occurred here.

The old building was gothic. And I feel mildly bad for not remembering who designed it, but it came to being after the Great Fire of London destroyed the previous one. And I seem to remember that they celebrated the fire as providing a tremendous opportunity for architecture, so maybe I shouldn't feel quite so bad for forgetting their name. The new thing looks a bit Greek, a bit Roman, and a lot German.

"Did Adolf Hitler have any actual involvement in the design?"

Oh, god, it's not all soaring towers and golden Imperial eagles, is it? Hitler had definite tastes in architecture...

"He looks at it once. By that time, he had began to use amphetamines and his ability to command fine details was weakened."

"He took more than amphetamines in my timeline."

More than likely the cause of his quite variable competency in military matters...

"By the end, he took more than amphetamines here as well. Conquering the world is easy when you have overwhelming power. Controlling the world was not so easy."

Which is why the Kingdom of Britain exists. It actually kept most of its pre-war territory, though the nature of that rule changed somewhat. And the government…

Easier to rule through a puppet government, of course. Oh, certainly, they might manage home affairs quite well, but I would expect in international affairs, they follow Germany's lead...

"Did they actually kill Baden-Powell?"

"I do not know that name."

An odd question... Especially since the man died in 1941 anyway.

"He was the man who invented the Scouts' Association, what Hitler based the Hitler Youth on. There's a funny story about an exchange the two organisations did before the war, actually. In an attempt to promote peace between Britain and Germany, he arranged for a platoon of ten year old boys from the Scout movement in Britain to go to Germany and stay with the families of Hitler Youth boys. They spent a summer learning about German culture, doing outdoors exercises… Normal youth group stuff. Then the next year the Hitler Youth sent a platoon of boys to Britain. Sixteen and seventeen year old boys who spent the summer bicycling around Britain drawing maps!"

...Ah. I think I see the meaning now. The Boy Scouts weren't military, not in the sense that the Hitler Youth were...

He gives me an awkward smile.

"Did that really happen?"

It does show a certain disregard for convention... Using young men, supposedly on 'holiday', as unofficial spies and scouts... I'll bet that if the Germans had managed to invade, those young men would have been in the first army units to land, and serve in scouting parties... Or at least the information they gathered would be an effective guidebook of the region for the invasion's commanders...

"I've probably gotten some of the details wrong." I breathe out. "Okay, post war, Britain made a huge effort to attract people from the colonies to come and live in Britain. I'm going to assume that didn't happen here."

"British colonists returned from places awarded to Germany's allies."

...Not the kind of People Paul is referring to, methinks.

"Ah, no. I meant black people from British territories in the Caribbean."

The awkward smile dies.

Yes, 'Big Oof', you might say.

"No. That did not happen here."

I look down at the streets from our balcony on the up of the parliament building. Yeah, no… Non-white people. That wouldn't be too strange somewhere like Leonard Stanley, but immigrant communities in the post-War period generally went to live in major industrial cities. Even today… 'Today', people who can trace their descent from those immigrants are far more common in cities. This is weird for London. I mean, I didn't pick up on it immediately when I visited Eastbourne. The lack of Eastern Europeans would be more obvious there-.

...At least your home town exists in this universe? I mean, you probably don't because the differences in history...

Yes, that… That wouldn't have happened here either.

I think that the clothing is more conservative, but this is September in Britain. And it's not as if I knew anything about London fashion before I came here. The cars are all electronic, running quietly along well-ordered roads. No… Swastikas or anything like that, but there are a few touches which suggest… I don't know, that there was a bit of an 'Imperium chic' trend a while ago.

So, decorative statues of tall, imposing men in natty uniforms, gesturing widely at the distance, a measure more order and conformity in the street-facing facades of houses, that sort of thing?

"What about..? India? I thought that people from that part of the world were officially okay."

"During the Chinese campaign, Germany was stretched thinly due to the manpower required to hold its European territory. The Fuhrer authorised the use of biological weapons. Unfortunately-." He closes his eyes for a moment, takes a deep breath and huffs it out. "No. It was not a matter of fortune. The genetic elements which the organism targeted were shared between the Chinese and the majority of brown-skinned Indians. There are some who were more genetically similar to the people of the Middle East, but a large part of India was depopulated."

I'm guessing someone - a lot of someones probably - got a very short, loud talking to by lines of men who let their guns do the talking?

"Who lives their now?"

"Some people who survived in remote areas. Colonists from Britain, and other places. It is a… I do not remember the word in Englisch. A political entity which manages its internal affairs but is ruled by the King of Britain."

So, gone from one of the most populated countries on Earth to one of the least? I suppose the 1947 Partition didn't happen in this timeline, mostly because those being split would be dead...

"Dominion?"

"If that is the word."

Not the best one, but it was what they used back in the day, yes...

I suppose that with all of the natives dead, there would be more cultural commonality between Britain and India. The same religion, the same customs, and therefore no particular desire to be… Independent, but… That could be said of the United States of America as well, and look what happened there.

"Well, it's more advanced, obviously. The people as a whole are different. I imagine that they're taught German in schools?"

And things like Hinduism and Buddhism are lost religions... Consigned to history books at best, highly classified history books at worst.

"Yes. Does that not happen in your timeline?"

"Ich kann nicht Deutsch gesprechen."

"That is not correct-. Ah, I see."

Well, different universe, for one. I'm sure their German dialect is subtly different to ours. Fifteen years since some half-forgotten lessons for another.

"It gets taught, but it's three hours a week from twelve to sixteen. And that's if you don't do French or Spanish instead. Beyond that, I can't really tell you until I've had a chance to experience a little more of modern Britain."

He nods.

I hope he has some manner of translation device, then. Otherwise he's really going to stand out.

"I have spoken with the editor of Die Täglich Welt. He has agreed to sponsor your writing, though the censors are more strict in Germany than they are here. Also, a gift from me, for your birthday."

He reaches into his pocket and pulls out a watch, offering it to me.

...Wait, is that... "The Daily World"? Oh, don't tell me...

"It will never run out of battery power, it will work in extreme environments and it emits a sound that will allow me to find you." I take it from him and wrap it around my left wrist. "It also has an alarm function which will allow you to alert me if your life is threatened, though I will ask you to only use that if there is genuine need. Calls on my time are many."

"Thank you, and I'll try not to end up in peril. You know where I am if you need someone to bounce ideas off."

So, you're basically this universe's Jimmy Olsen now... Though I suspect the only danger he'd be in is from Uncle Sam's group or local sympathisers.And Paul himself makes that same observation below.

Sheesh.

"Yes. Have a good day."

He looks up, and then shoots up into the sky. I watch him go as he gets smaller and smaller before vanishing from my sight, though I know perfectly well that he could still see me. And hear me, of course.

Ah, the joy of knowing the most powerful Nazi on Earth has your back...

The official escort who had been hanging back while we spoke begin walking towards me. I get a small flat and a job as a journalist -and apparently as his Jimmy Olsen- and he gets to talk to someone who gets it. I suppose this is as good a life as I can reasonably expect, given the circumstances.

I shrug, and walk towards the functionaries, singing quietly to myself as I do so.

Let's just hope you don't go through the sorts of things the actual Jimmy Olsen did. Certainly, I doubt you'd put up with any Superdickery, at least.

"Es gibt ein Haus in Neu-Berlin,
man nennt es Haus Abendrot.
Es war der Ruin vieler guter Jungs,
von mir, mein Gott litt ich Not."

Would be weird if BJ Blaskowicz was running around here. Probably long dead by now, though. Unless he got some kind of Super-Soldier treatment...

Still interesting that these are main-line story chapters, not the usual side-story threads alternate Pauls usually get. Perhaps this will be a running subplot for this 'season'... At any rate, I suspect he's going to have quite the feeling of uncanny valley going on until he finally gets accustomed to the differences. Doubt he'll ever get his ring back, though...

Mr Zoat · Nov 21, 2021

Darko said:
Zoat this should be 2012, since in the previous post featuring this version it was 2012.

Thank you, corrected.

crazygrox said:
Also now I've gotta wonder what the fates of all the other ancient DC characters were in this setting. Like doctor mist, or Black Adam. Have any of them popped up and died by nazi? Or continued to be going concerns?

With the decreased interest in magic, no one in the Reich investigated Black Adam and his remains are still where they were entombed. Mist is around.

Did they actually kill Wonder Woman or did she just head back to paradise Island?

Dead.

Stuff like that. Mostly trying to think up who they would recruit for a hypothetical group of overman's anti-new-reichsmen.

He wouldn't do it like that.

Ngamer11 said:
Mr Zoat, what does the SI on Earth 10 go by?

Paul Freeman.

Chojin Patriarch said:
...At least your home town exists in this universe? I mean, you probably don't because the differences in history...

Eastbourne was very heavily bombed during WWII, due to being on the flightpath between the airfields in France and London. Any pilots who had bombs left over just dropped them on the last town before the sea. The nature of WWII on Earth 10 probably means it got bombed less

Ngamer11 · Nov 21, 2021

Mr Zoat said:
Paul Freeman.

Thanks. How did he communicate his first name?

Darko · Nov 21, 2021

Chojin Patriarch said:
Ah, another Earth-10 Paul interlude. Evidently Overman pulled some strings to get him out of lock-up. Though I find myself wondering why? The novelty of someone from an alternate Earth, who remembers a different history? I'm sure we'll find out... Eventually

Overman kinda gave a reason.

Mr Zoat said:
I nod. "And what do you want to do about it?"

"I want to free a talkative Englischer who knows what modern society is when it is not formed by the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei

Chojin Patriarch said:
Hmm... With Angelika gone, perhaps he's seeking a friend, a confidant who isn't tied rigidly to the party line..

Angelika was a follower of the party line, so he may not have been able to confide to her.

Though the lady that was enhanced using the Danner formula may be, if Overman knows about her homosexuality.

Chojin Patriarch said:
At least your home town exists in this universe? I mean, you probably don't because the differences in history...

His parents could have been killed during the bombings, or maybe they were 'cleansed'.

Paul mentioned that one of his grandparents was a Roma and while he'd be allowed to live but not take political office in Nazi World, his parents may have been viewed as ones that need to be killed.

Chojin Patriarch said:
And things like Hinduism and Buddhism are lost religions... Consigned to history books at best, highly classified history books at worst.

Buddhism may exist in Japan, which is still a world power.

Though I don't know what the Japanese governments attitude towards it was like during WWII, or how it was in this world, so it may be dead.

As for Hinduism, unless it isn't illegal then there may be practitioners, though they're a minority now.

And if it is illegal then there's still the possibility that some practice it in secret.

Chojin Patriarch said:
I hope he has some manner of translation device, then. Otherwise he's really going to stand out

They may still speak English, but German may be mandatory to learn.

Chojin Patriarch said:
So, you're basically this universe's Jimmy Olsen now... Though I suspect the only danger he'd be in is from Uncle Sam's group or local sympathisers.And Paul himself makes that same observation below. Sheesh.

Uncle Sam may just work in America.

And if he writes things that are against the Nazis, though not too vocally against them, then they may leave him alone.

Chojin Patriarch said:
Ah, the joy of knowing the most powerful Nazi on Earth has your back...

That is not reassuring in a lot if ways when you hear it said.

The only person that may be reassured by that would be another Nazi.

Chojin Patriarch said:
Let's just hope you don't go through the sorts of things the actual Jimmy Olsen did. Certainly, I doubt you'd put up with any Superdickery, at least

He may be okay with the getting powers thing.

Darko · Nov 21, 2021

Mr Zoat said:
Dead.

What about Themyscira?

If the Nazis lacked magic then they may not have been able to locate it.

Mr Zoat said:
Paul Freeman.

Ngamer11 said:
How did he communicate his first name?

Yeah, what Ngamer11 asked.

I can see Overman or someone else doing the same thing Dick did to figure out Paul's name, listing various names until they reached one OL couldn't say, but he shouldn't be able to say it, write it or think about it.

Maybe if he used a different name, or called himself Pol or Paol.

DAT_NOOB · Nov 21, 2021

Ngamer11 said:
Please don't tell me this will lead to an invasion of Earth 16 by Earth 10.

Isn't overman basically the most powerful man in Earth-10? why would they invade?

Darko · Nov 21, 2021

DAT_NOOB said:
Isn't overman basically the most powerful man in Earth-10? why would they invade?

Overman may be powerful, but he doesn't have absolure control over the Nazis.

Also one reason they would invade was seeing what they consider to be inferior races continuing to exist on Earth 16.

And Overman may not be there to stop it, since he may be in space or in some other universe during that time.

Mr Zoat · Nov 21, 2021

Ngamer11 said:
Thanks. How did he communicate his first name?

With great difficulty.

Darko said:
What about Themyscira?

If the Nazis lacked magic then they may not have been able to locate it.

Mr. Freeman doesn't know.

RichardWhereat · Nov 21, 2021

Mr Zoat said:
A political entity which manages its internal affairs but is ruled by the King of Britain."

"Dominion?"

Ah, so Australia.

Chaoswind · Nov 21, 2021

If biological weapons ended up killing most Chinese and Indians then shouldn't a fuckton of Japanese have also died by proxy and their empire collapsed? I guess they were likely an acceptable casualty for the Nazis to strengthen their hold on the world, but I can't imagine the rest of the Nazi allies would be thrilled if the Japanese ended up under the bus.

Mr Zoat · Nov 21, 2021

Chaoswind said:
If biological weapons ended up killing most Chinese and Indians then shouldn't a fuckton of Japanese have also died by proxy and their empire collapsed? I guess they were likely an acceptable casualty for the Nazis to strengthen their hold on the world, but I can't imagine the rest of the Nazi allies would be thrilled if the Japanese ended up under the bus.

Useful thing about living on an island: genetic isolation. They generally didn't have the targetted genes. And if they did? They didn't have kryptonian technology.

Mr Zoat · Nov 21, 2021

RichardWhereat said:
Ah, so Australia.

It's sort of a reference to a dead fanfic set in the aftermath of a Hearts of Iron playthrough where the AI-controlled USA was useless and so ended up with minimal war score. The Cold War was between the Soviet Union and the British Empire, right up until a cabal of Soviet sorcerers made a pact to swap their British Empire for our Commonwealth. The story died when it looked like the Chinese were going to go to war to reclaim their territory, which in the other timeline was never Soviet-controlled.

The British Empire was essentially an Imperial Federation, with the self-governing areas being called Dominions. Except the two areas of Africa that fulfilled the requirements, because the author appeared to think that Britain would be slower to move away from racism than the USA.

RichardWhereat · Nov 21, 2021

Mr Zoat said:
It's sort of a reference to a dead fanfic set in the aftermath of a Hearts of Iron playthrough where the AI-controlled USA was useless and so ended up with minimal war score. The Cold War was between the Soviet Union and the British Empire, right up until a cabal of Soviet sorcerers made a pact to swap their British Empire for our Commonwealth. The story died when it looked like the Chinese were going to go to war to reclaim their territory, which in the other timeline was never Soviet-controlled.

The British Empire was essentially an Imperial Federation, with the self-governing areas being called Dominions. Except the two areas of Africa that fulfilled the requirements, because the author appeared to think that Britain would be slower to move away from racism than the USA.

All good. My comment was just me salty about Whitlam.

That said, I've downloaded it, but damn, I need to play that game.

Mr Zoat · Nov 21, 2021

RichardWhereat said:
All good. My comment was just me salty about Whitlam.

Oh, the sacking guy. The one Australian Prime Minister I've actually heard of.

And to be fair, John Kerr was an Australian.

That said, I've downloaded it, but damn, I need to play that game.

I've never played the base game. Fallout mod and Pony mod all the way.

Pinklestia · Nov 21, 2021

Mr Zoat said:
I've never played the base game. Fallout mod and Pony mod all the way

Cue one of the Renegade Equestria bad timelines being Fallout Equestria...

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