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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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Assblaster5000 said:
I... source? Because last time I checked both of those are fundamental forces in DC and, while I don't mean to downplay the Speedforce, Flash has never one-shot a Sun Eater, which Parallax Hal Jordan absolutely has. (Yes, I know there was more going on than just Spectrum stuff there, but the point stands)
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The Speed Force controls the Time, Space, and Movement of everything.
 
Vaermina said:
The Speed Force controls the Time, Space, and Movement of everything.
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Again, source? Not saying that isn't the case, because this is comics and it probably is (despite there almost certainly being five different things that contradict that), but you're just saying that without a single link or anything to back it up.
 
DrThoth said:
Have the Controllers managed to revert any construct Lanterns yet? What happens if they're destroyed like all of Paragon's constructs are now? (Except for the Saremite, I think, who he made into a construct ring?). Do they pass on into the afterlife or whatever happens when beings like them normally die?
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Orange Lantern Construct Lanterns are just orange light copies of beings, not actual Souls and the like.

Hence why Blackest Night sucked so bad for Larfleeze, with all the beings he turned into constructs getting their souls dragged back from the afterlife to go after him.
 
Chojin Patriarch said:
And I doubt other magicians remotely wanted to stick their nose into a Constantine mess...
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They might as well roll in broken glass and then take a bath in hot sauce mixed with a lot of salt.

Chojin Patriarch said:
Okay, well... We at least know it's not Nabu-16, as John Quinn presumably has the helmet with him. So this is some alternate universe Nabu, or some being who chose a similar method of existence. It's likely that this might be Nabu from Earth-Hell, somehow remaining untainted by the demonic energies, if only by rule of narrative convenience. I guess we'll see, tomorrow
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And we'll see if Paul will attack him as soon as he realizes that it's Nabu, or if he can restrain himself.
 
Vaermina said:
Orange Lantern Construct Lanterns are just orange light copies of beings, not actual Souls and the like.

Hence why Blackest Night sucked so bad for Larfleeze, with all the beings he turned into constructs getting their souls dragged back from the afterlife to go after him.
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I'm pretty sure it is their souls trapped there, both in comics and this fic.
 
it a bit sad nowaday since Paul stop using construct minion

oh sure making them is unethical and morally wrong but i like minion class
 
NightmareWarden said:
Hellwraith!

Another construct lantern lost… Hey I wonder if some impression of Teekl and other fallen lanterns survives in the Honden. Or we could learn what Ophidian and Hellwraith talked about over the ages it was inactive.

Huh. I had a thought. Is there any chance Paul will turn a villainous supergirl into a construct lantern going forward?
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It would be fairly hard to justify.
DrThoth said:
Have the Controllers managed to revert any construct Lanterns yet?
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No.
What happens if they're destroyed like all of Paragon's constructs are now? (Except for the Saremite, I think, who he made into a construct ring?). Do they pass on into the afterlife or whatever happens when beings like them normally die?
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No one knows.
Chojin Patriarch said:
So, an average Constantine event. I would laugh if this turned out to be where John's hiding out while he takes care of Nabu-related business, and OL's accidentally overcome whatever kind of 'not now, do something else' effect John might have set on him...
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To be fair to John, he had nothing to do with causing it to happen. This time.
DrThoth said:
Not 100% sure but I believe it's from the initial Books of Magic run by Neil Gaiman, when Timothy Hunter travels to the far future with Mister E and sees a bunch of shit from a magic multiversal war and things. It has an evil/twisted Nabu who forces his host to put him on.
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That's the one.
 
Vaermina said:
Then how were their souls free to be brought back by Black Lantern rings in the Blackest Night?
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Because Black Lanterns don't require souls.

Hence Robotman being attacked by his own body, hence Deadman seeing his own body running around, hence Hawkman's previous incarnations becoming black lanterns, hence Deathstorm running around while Ronnie is alive, hence Solomon Grundy being a black lantern while Cyrus Gold was in Hell, hence Katana being attacked by her husband whose soul was in Soultaker, or Batman Who Laughs getting his brainless body reanimated while the actual Batman Who Laughs was busy elsewhere.

Now some Black Lanterns most noticeably the Spectre were exceptions.
 
Stsword said:
Because Black Lanterns don't require souls.

Hence Robotman being attacked by his own body, hence Deadman seeing his own body running around, hence Hawkman's previous incarnations becoming black lanterns, hence Deathstorm running around while Ronnie is alive, hence Solomon Grundy being a black lantern while Cyrus Gold was in Hell, hence Katana being attacked by her husband whose soul was in Soultaker, or Batman Who Laughs getting his brainless body reanimated while the actual Batman Who Laughs was busy elsewhere.

Now some Black Lanterns most noticeably the Spectre were exceptions.
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yeah, Black Light don't 'revive' revive you, it just make a black light thing to puppet the body around i think

basic Necromancy stuff really, animating the body with a spiritual construct
 
Z000 said:
yeah, Black Light don't 'revive' revive you, it just make a black light thing to puppet the body around i think

basic Necromancy stuff really, animating the body with a spiritual construct
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Although the Spectre was an obvious exception, all free willed Black Lanterns imply more exceptions, and the Solomon Grundy storyline suggests that Black Lantern status and other forms of undeath are compatible and are very very very bad news for anyone in the vicinity.
 
Mr Zoat said:
I free the hellwraith from my ring and send it forward towards the detached house indicated. Huh. Actually, this would be a decent place for a superhero base, if the superhero in question could do long distance teleportation. An attacker would find it very difficult to hide their approach, there's plenty of space and-.

"Mastaaaaaaaah!"

I watch as the hellwraith is consumed in golden fire as it enters the house's garden. I instruct it to pull back but the flames don't relent. It burns for few seconds and then it's gone.
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aww. if i'm not mistaken, that's the last of the orange light minions?

that was one of my favorite parts of the orange light gimmick. i miss the demons that ate everything. i also loved it when, i think Renegade?, assimilated R'as al'Ghul and Vandal Savage for their lifetimes of information.

anyway, tangential question: has anyone at the OLC besides Paragon been assimilating things? is that something taught at a higher level of training or something frowned upon or...?
 
BartlettMagic said:
aww. if i'm not mistaken, that's the last of the orange light minions?

that was one of my favorite parts of the orange light gimmick. i miss the demons that ate everything. i also loved it when, i think Renegade?, assimilated R'as al'Ghul and Vandal Savage for their lifetimes of information.

anyway, tangential question: has anyone at the OLC besides Paragon been assimilating things? is that something taught at a higher level of training or something frowned upon or...?
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Paul should still have Dr. Morrow, the Saremite, and the Reach Thralls. Also, we saw Komand'r assimilate a Citadelian, and Onik assimilated the Spider Guilder he defeated.
 
I'm hoping this is an alt or corrupted Nabu amd not a future Nabu. See, last time I saw a skull-Nabu, removing the helmet was lethal to the wearer.
 
Mr Zoat said:
I think that the saremite was assimilated by the Ophidian.
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The Saremite was, yes, but Paragon was directing it when he rescued Brainiac 2 from the Dominators; it was part of his threat against the high-caste ones that prompted them to choose Green Lantern custody. So it should still functionally be his construct Lantern. I still forget what Paragon used to create the construct ring he had for a bit a few episodes ago (sorry if someone answered and I missed it).

I forgot about TO Morrow entirely. Is he helping out with the Kordtech weather drones based on his tech?
 
DrThoth said:
I forgot about TO Morrow entirely. Is he helping out with the Kordtech weather drones based on his tech?
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Paul went to visit him once, and realized that his own subconscious desires were dictating Morrow's actions. So Morrow was simply living with Red Tornado, and not causing any evil trouble, which was about all that Paul wanted him to do.
 
Michael Vonica said:
Paul went to visit him once, and realized that his own subconscious desires were dictating Morrow's actions. So Morrow was simply living with Red Tornado, and not causing any evil trouble, which was about all that Paul wanted him to do.
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I remember that, yeah. Just wondered if he was doing anything else. Though I really don't know how much time has passed in-universe since then.
 
Stsword said:
Because Black Lanterns don't require souls.

Hence Robotman being attacked by his own body, hence Deadman seeing his own body running around, hence Hawkman's previous incarnations becoming black lanterns, hence Deathstorm running around while Ronnie is alive, hence Solomon Grundy being a black lantern while Cyrus Gold was in Hell, hence Katana being attacked by her husband whose soul was in Soultaker, or Batman Who Laughs getting his brainless body reanimated while the actual Batman Who Laughs was busy elsewhere.

Now some Black Lanterns most noticeably the Spectre were exceptions.
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At which point all the black lanterns were brought back to life by the White Light and fought their Orange Construct counterparts. :p
 
Vaermina said:
At which point all the black lanterns were brought back to life by the White Light and fought their Orange Construct counterparts. :p
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I'll take things that never happened in Blackest Night, Alex! For crying out loud, The Orange Lantern Corps and White Lanterns were on the same side.

Something that did happen in Blackest Night was that Deadman, a ghost, was resurrected as a White lantern despite his soul very very obviously not inhabiting his body at the time of resurrection.
 
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