With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

[Chaoswind]

Any reason the ring can't be removed while he is dead? Because losing an arm doesn't seem so bad to get rid of the stupid thing.

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Anti-green probably has a few features compatible with the canon Red rings. Getting rid of it is as much a death sentence as wearing it.

Also i would assume Saul doesn't wait until after he is death to jump into the green goo pool, more often than not it probably happens immediately.

 

[Vaermina]

Mr Zoat, I just realised. Aren't Lazarus Pits supposed to have limited use?
According to these:


in the YJ universe Lazarus pits can bring one person back from the dead maybe twice before it is depleted and need to recharge.
And then it would take some time before it recharges. And there are only about a hundred of them.

Do they work differently here than in the main YJ story?
How long is the recharge time?

Because if the recharge time is more than the overall amount of Lazarus Pits on this earth Paul is about to run out of lives

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This is the DCAU.

Lazarus Pits there, like pretty much everything, are a lot more powerful then the stuff in Young Justice.

 

[WaleXdraK]

Mr Zoat, you are on QQ it's totally fine if you tell the truth about how Anti Green Lantern Paul learned to resist his ring and by that i mean that he became SM.

 

[Mr Zoat]

Mr Zoat, you are on QQ it's totally fine if you tell the truth about how Anti Green Lantern Paul learned to resist his ring and by that i mean that he became SM.

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[Stsword]

As for Anti-Green Lantern Paul, there's this tidbit from the Legion of Superheroes and their dealing with Ra's-

"The Legion defeated him and his Oversight Watch and thwarted his plans to jump-start the evolutionary process of humanity. A stock of cloned bodies of the Demon's Head were found and, for a time, the Legion assumed that this Ra's Al Ghul was a clone too. Brainiac 5 realized later that the resurrection process of the Lazarus Pit to which Ra's Al Ghul had submitted himself for decades had changed him. He is literally the Lazarus Fires and the cloned bodies were simply vessels for this "sentient blood"."

So overuse of the Lazarus Pit merges someone with the Lazarus Pit, although getting a host body then becomes necessary.

 

[Maxx Crowley]

He gets back up thanks to the Lazarus Pit, which for some reason causes the ring to return to him.

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I'm thinking the ring has perhaps cottoned on to what is going on, and just remains glued to his finger.

I assume its because without a ring Nyssa has no reason to bring him back at all, and she certainly isn't going to wear the ring herself.

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However, if I'm wrong about the ring remaining, I'm thinking it just forces itself back upon him once he revives.

I'm not going to lie. I found the first Anti-Green Paul so sad, I've actually got a rough draft of him meeting Alan Scott, and Alan's Magic green ring, sitting on my desktop.

 

[PDV]

Yeah, it's basically me and the book version of Percy Jackson who aren't slandering him.

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OK, but...you're writing this universe, too. Why did you choose to slander him in AL's universe but not OL's?

 

[Aeess]

OK, but...you're writing this universe, too. Why did you choose to slander him in AL's universe but not OL's?

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There is no etablished Hades for young justice. He does show up in justice leauge animated though, and he is pretty much the devil in it.

 

[Pinklestia]

As for Anti-Green Lantern Paul, there's this tidbit from the Legion of Superheroes and their dealing with Ra's-

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That means Antigreen Paul would have to use the Pits for thousands of years, and I think he would have found a better option after a few decades.

 

[Gantradies]

I'm thinking the ring has perhaps cottoned on to what is going on, and just remains glued to his finger.

However, if I'm wrong about the ring remaining, I'm thinking it just forces itself back upon him once he revives.

I'm not going to lie. I found the first Anti-Green Paul so sad, I've actually got a rough draft of him meeting Alan Scott, and Alan's Magic green ring, sitting on my desktop.

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would totally read that

 

[Mr Zoat]

Difficulty

Day 97
17:02 GMT -5

"Ah?" Mr Lawton looks up from the briefcase he's packing with paper money taken from a cash machine someone ripped open. "Oh hey, you're that guy with the Green Lantern fixation, right?"

A short way behind him, Volcana is sending a torrent of flames into an office block while Star Sapphire is taking shots at something I can't see. Kalibak is lifting a car over his head, presumably intending to throw it at the police forces forming a barricade down the street.

The slave-animal is to prioritise the study and acquisition of the Zamaron crystal.

As you wish, Master.

"I only hunt Green Lanterns in order to recharge."

"Whatever, man." He starts straightening out the bundles of notes to fit them in better. "Go find your own ATM. There's plenty-."

Armour forms around my body as a bolt from Master hits him in the chest, tossing him back and spinning him around.

"Professionally, I hunt assassins."

He recovers and raises his hand-mounted guns-

No useful data is derived from this fight. The slave-animal will engage the Zamaron slave-animal.

-and I fire a small bolt through each gun. He takes a moment to look at his ruined right armature.

"Well that's awkwa-."

I bring a bat construct down on his head. He goes down with a grunt, then groggily tries to rise. I suppose that I haven't really practised non-lethal options. And I'm not carrying handcuffs or anything like that. Master-.

I grunt in disorientation as Master generates a… A nerve jammer construct, a far more complicated device than I could hold in my mind without Master's… Help. Mr Lawton convulses for a moment and then collapses fully. He should be out for… A while, without much long term injury.

Thank you, Master.

"And who are you supposed to be?"

I rise up into the air until I'm level with Star Sapphire. No idea whether or not it's Carol Ferris under there, though the accent suggests not. Was there ever an English Star Sapphire? I don't remember. This one didn't really seem to be an intelligence-orientated supervillain so I've made a point of avoiding her. Under other circumstances, talking to her to discover her background might be useful, but the situation here is that supervillains are rampaging through a city.

I fire a bolt and she parries with a glowing violet shield before firing a beam at me from her headdress. I jink to my right and the beam flies past me-.

I hear the sound of breaking glass. Right, city I'm.. trying to protect. It's a novel thing to have to worry about. The Shadows didn't usually use heavy ordnance like that. She fires again but this time I add a shield to my armour and tank the shot.

"Green Lantern usually manages to fire back. Are you n-?"

I stick my right arm out to the side while my left supports the shield and send a bolt around in an arc. It strikes the side of her headdress-

"Agh!"

-and makes her wallow clumsily in the air, and I take the opportunity to surge forward-.

Lightning crackles around my armour, which insulates me completely from the attack.

"Hey, what gives?!"

I ignore Ms Willis for now and roundhouse punch Star Sapphire in the right eye. Her environmental shield appears to take most of the hit, but she jerks back woozily once more. Two more punches to the head and then I drop my shield construct to grab her around the throat, my right hand glowing as I reach forward-.

Her eyes focus for a moment and the gem lights up-.

I'm flying backwards, though my armour construct is holding against the force of the blast. I reinforce it as I try and catch sight of Star Sapphire, to spot whether she was actually hurt or just playing possum. Master-.

Bwougpf!

Something heavy hits me and then I'm surrounded by fire and pressure. I focus on my armour and on gaining height and I swiftly rise above-.

Kalibak's second thrown car sails underneath me to his evident disappointment. I reach out with my right hand, generate a large hand construct, catch it and slam it down on him! The car comes apart as it hits his head and he barely grunts, and the ignition of the fuel from the petrol tanks apparently doesn't warrant any more of his attention. Okay, I can dodge cars, and this area should be evacuated sufficiently that-.

Bolts of energy slam into my armour, though some go past me into the night sky. Looks like punching her did some good. And there isn't anyone to hit if she aims at the sky. I surge again, moving in a tight arc to a position directly above her, then I surge downwards, construct bat in hand. She spots me, eyes wide, about half a second before I slam it directly into the jewel on her forehead. Her environmental shield wavers and she collapses bonelessly towards the ground, striking the tarmac and rolling in an uncontrolled tumble until she stops, unmoving.

Good enough data?

The abilities of the enemy slave-animal were pathetic.

I drop down, thrust my hands through her blinking environmental shield and pull off her headdress. Her costume immediately begins evaporating, replaced by a white business blouse and calf-length skirt.

And as I look at the Star Sapphire jewel for one glorious moment I imagine putting it on and being freed of Master's influence permanently.

No. I wince as my armour -which apparently had decayed into nothing as I stared transfixed at the jewel- flares back into existence just in time to block the column of fire spewing forth from Ms Selton's hands.

"Back off."

"Her environmental shield is off. I can take this. She can't."

The fires fade, flames limiting themselves to dancing around her fists. "I thought you were a serial killer."

"I'm a bounty hunter. The commission was for 'dead'."

"What, did Metropolis hire you?"

"No. Superman did me a favour. I'm repaying-" She winces. "-it. I assume that you don't-" My construct fist grabs Mr Doe out of the air and squeezes until I hear his ribs snap. "-feel the same sense of obligation."

"No education, no records, and the people who did everything to me got away with it."

"Do they live in Metropolis? Do the people who let them go live in Metropolis?"

"Ye-."

"In any of the buildings you just torched?"

"Ah, probably.. not."

"Then what the fuck are you doing? If you were attacking the actual people you wanted dead I'd get it, but you're attacking people you don't even want to hurt? The fuck is wrong with you?"

She.. doesn't appear to have an immediate response.

"Shut the fires down and maybe I'll forget that I saw you."

Right. Now for Kalibak.

 

[Sockmonkey]

And then I'd have to use [turns aside and spits] Buffy comic power levels in order for a functional Black Lantern to not own everyone.

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Buffy is a fridge logic fail when there's nothing keeping vampires from using guns.

 

[Buggy123]

Buffy is a fridge logic fail when there's nothing keeping vampires from using guns.

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I haven't seen Buffy, but there is that one time...

 

[Chojin Patriarch]

...money taken from a cash machines someone ripped open.

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...money taken from a cash machine someone ripped open.

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The slave-animal is to prioritise the study and acquisition of the Zamaron crystal.

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I see someone hasn't quite realised they're not entirely in charge anymore...

I bring a bat construct down on his head. He goes down with a grunt, then groggily tries to rise. I suppose that I haven't really practiced non-lethal options. And I'm not carrying handcuffs or anything like that. Master-.

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Not much need for non-lethal against the Ninjas, and you wouldn't want to kill your power source (ie Green lanterns).

Was there ever an English Star Sapphire?

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Odd italicisation here.

...but the situation here is that supervillains are rampaging through a city.

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Yeah, Disable first, investigate later.

I ignore Ms Willis for now and roundhouse punch Star Sapphire in the right eye. Her environmental shield appears to take most of the hit, but she jerks back woozily once more. Two more punches to the head and then I drop my shield construct to grab her around the throat, my right hand glowing as I reach forward-.

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The joy of fighting Blasters. They don't deal well with melee.

Kalibak's second thrown car sails underneath me to his evident disappointment. I reach out with my right hand, generate a large hand construct, catch it and slam in down on him! The car comes apart as it hits his head and he barely grunts, and the ignition of the fuel from the petrol tanks apparently doesn't warrant any more of his attention.

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Yup. If they're strong enough to pick the car up, they're usually too tough to be hurt by getting hit with it.

I surge again, moving in a tight arc to a position directly above her, then I surge downwards, construct bat in hand. She spots me, eyes wide, about half a second before I slam it directly into the jewel on her forehead. Her environmental shield wavers and she collapses bonelessly towards the ground, striking the tarmac and rolling in an uncontrolled tumble until she stops, unmoving.

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>Bonk!<

The abilities of the enemy slave-animal were pathetic.

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At least it agrees, she was not very good.

And as I look at the Star Sapphire jewel for one glorious moment I imagine putting it on and being freed of Master's influence permanently.

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Oh, dear. Just imagining a Star Sapphire uniform on a guy... Even the tame one in animation would be embarrassing.

"Back off."

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Concern for a nominal ally? She can't be all bad.

"No education, no records, and the people who did everything to me got away with it."

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Yeah, our Grayven did so much better for her than this timeline. What's happening with her in OL's timeline?

"Then what the fuck are you doing? If you were attacking the actual people you wanted dead I'd get it, but you're attacking people you don't even want to hurt? The fuck is wrong with you?"

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Typical villain stupidity.

I actually want to see what happens next. I mean, it's probably along the lines of 'AL beats badguy face until the league arrives' but the fallout would be fascinating...

 

[Whenever Possible]

Buffy is a fridge logic fail when there's nothing keeping vampires from using guns.

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Darla shoots Angel in one of the first episodes, so they can use guns, and do, occasionally. I mean, fledges don't, but if I woke up with super strength one day, I'd probably play around with punching things until they break for a while too. And most/all of the master vampires we see are crazy.

 

[Massgamer]

No. I wince as my armour -which apparently had decayed into nothing as I stared transfixed at the jewel- flares back into existence just in time to block the column of fire spewing forth from Ms Selton's hands.

"Back off."

"Her environmental shield is off. I can take this. She can't."

The fires fade, flames limiting themselves to dancing around her fists. "I though you were a serial killer."

"I'm a bounty hunter. The commission was for 'dead'."

"What, did Metropolis hire you?"

"No. Superman did me a favour. I'm repaying-" She winces. "-it. I assume that you don't-" My construct fist grabs Mr Doe out of the air and squeezes until I hear his ribs snap. "-feel the same sense of obligation."

"No education, no records, and the people who did everything to me got away with it."

"Do they live in Metropolis? Do the people who let them go live in Metropolis?"

"Ye-."

"In any of the buildings you just torched?"

"Ah, probably.. not."

"Then what the fuck are you doing? If you were attacking the actual people you wanted dead I'd get it, but you're attacking people you don't even want to hurt? The fuck is wrong with you?"

She.. doesn't appear to have an immediate response.

"Shut the fires down and maybe I'll forget that I saw you."

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Yeah, always wondered about that.

Honestly seems like Volcana would fit in well on Themyscira or something if she wants a place she will fit in with others.

 

[Mr Zoat]

...money taken from a cash machine someone ripped open.

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Thank you, corrected.

Was there ever an English Star Sapphire?
Odd italicisation here.

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That one is intentional.

"No education, no records, and the people who did everything to me got away with it."
Yeah, our Grayven did so much better for her than this timeline. What's happening with her in OL's timeline?

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The SI doesn't know.

 

[Khettien]

I bring a bat construct down on his head.

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I admit, at first I thought you meant the animal, and I was wondering if AGL was calling out Batman or something.

...now I wanna see Batman using a sports bat on someone.

 

[Stsword]

That means Antigreen Paul would have to use the Pits for thousands of years, and I think he would have found a better option after a few decades.

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Anti-Green Lantern Paul is using a Lazarus Pit every day, 7 days a week, 365 times a year.

He's using it a fuckton more than Ra's, so no, that does not mean that he'd have to wait thousands of years.

 

[RichardWhereat]

And most/all of the master vampires we see are crazy.

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Jack isn't crazy. I mean, yeah, he's crazy, but he's not crazy. Okay, yeah he's crazy. Bad example.

 

[Grimnar]

Jack isn't crazy.

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That story was hilarious. I'll remember the bowling ball pregnancy until the day I die.

 

[Chaoswind]

Isn't DCAU Volcana one of the people that betrays the league of evil because of Casanova Flash?

 

[Mr Zoat]

Isn't DCAU Volcana one of the people that betrays the league of evil because of Casanova Flash?

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Not as far as I remember.

 

[IndigoAbyss]

Why doesn't AL use the Star Sapphire to recharge? Or Is It that It doesn't work like that?

 

[l---erddad---l]

Why doesn't AL use the Star Sapphire to recharge? Or Is It that It doesn't work like that?

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Anti-Green Lanterns aren't like Orange Lanterns in being able to convert other light to the Orange Light, all a Anti-Green Lantern does is take Green Light from a Green Lantern, essentially treating Green Lanterns themselves as batteries.

 

[IndigoAbyss]

Anti-Green Lanterns aren't like Orange Lanterns in being able to convert other light to the Orange Light, all a Anti-Green Lantern does is take Green Light from a Green Lantern, essentially treating Green Lanterns themselves as batteries.

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Oh, really? This entire time I thought that the Anti Green Lanterns could just use whichever Light to recharge. Silly me.

 

[Mr Zoat]

Oh, really? This entire time I thought that the Anti Green Lanterns could just use whichever Light to recharge. Silly me.

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They were made based on what the qwardians knew about green rings specifically to beat green rings. They're altered replicas rather than anything truly original.

 

[Handlewithcare]

Wait, he still has the Sapphire. What would happen with a Sapphire and an AGL ring in conflict?

 

[Mr Zoat]

Wait, he still has the Sapphire. What would happen with a Sapphire and an AGL ring in conflict?

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The SI doesn't know.

 

[Handlewithcare]

The SI doesn't know.

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He could find out...