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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)
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<Facepalm> Ugh, you'd think things like this would be simple basic training, but nooo, the Guardians want expendable cops...
Yeah, I don't think we want to see the ring piss off to find a new wielder this soon.
Since The Renegade hasn't got as good a relationship with Icon and Rocket, no Kinetic Barrier belt, eh? Then again, it wouldn't do too well against Gordanian beam weaponry anyway.
Methinks Kara's perceptions are a little biased...
Yup, having a wide-open connection to your soul kinda makes it easy to locate you, wouldn't it? You'd think these people would've heard of firewalls?
Just close enough for a paddling, eh?
Grayven-50 is far too overconfident for that, even with his close encounter with an Emo-Bomb chunk of Anti-life.
Well, now. Wonder if this Kyle has the same potential as the pre-flashpoint one...
And since you're proficient with Ring usage, this would be the second-best option. Best would be securing his own Green ring, but...
Ha! Like trying to hack a 50's mainframe.
"Time to power-level that skill, then... Or just cheat."
Heh. I rather doubt that happened in this universe. Even if Tommy Callaghan existed... Would Bueno Excellente?
Screwed if you do, screwed if you don't. Better to take the option that ups your combat potential anyway.
Heh, Empowering an ally (if not a vassal yet.)
"Tastes like almonds... And metal! Whoahoho!"
Of course. Keeping a trophy of Conquest where he can see it probably empowers him a little.
...Ew.
Shoulda specialised, but nooo, you had to splash the upgrade points around.
It's called 'being a pain-in-the-ass to channel enough Will'. Seriously, Green Arrow tried it once and damn near gave himself an anuerysm.
Boy, this Barda really doesn't like him, does she? Or is she like that with everyone?
Next time, practice more with the Green Light, kid.
Lock and load.
Scry-and-die time!
If he wasn't ash, I'd say give that guy a promotion...
Oh, dear. Did The Renegade's attack on Apocalips drive them to throw in with Grayven-50?
Oh, hell! He's got the Omega Effect, at least in part? this fight just went end-game!
Also: 'steel'; extraneous space; 'passed'
This is bad, very bad. Very, very, very bad. Seriously, only kryptonians and Batman have reliably resisted Omega Beams before... And there's a serious lack of either in this fight.
Godspeech, from Grayven this time:
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Grayvenbowl!! I have been waiting for this, even if it's not with the original Grayven 16, I hope for the fight to be awesome. Since I'm on the Renegade's corner, I think he should be using more his orange ring and pulling out his Radion blaster. That shot to the face could have been it for the fight if it were a Radion shot instead of just a 'simple' fusion cannon.
Now, let the best Conquest win!
Now, let the best Conquest win!
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I doubt Gravy would have any issue with grabbing a Gordonian to use as an alien shield like Batman.
Anyway, Grayven's omega beams aren't as impressive as daddy dearest's.
Here's a pic of Kyle's shield blocking Grayven's omega beams.
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Slight error here, JLAU Omega Beams go through anything that's not a living being.
Hence Batman having to dodge it by throwing a parademon into it's path.
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Okay, panic was premature. but it's still nasty shit, and Grayven-50's probably got Gordanians armed with Radion weapons, knowing that Scott, Barda and the Renegade are running loose...
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Wait, two shots met.
Where is the traditional boom?
Also they are a bunczh of ungrateful jerks.
Where is the traditional boom?
Also they are a bunczh of ungrateful jerks.
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And being a jerk about it.
He's not a warlord, I guess. Not primarily.
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So Omega Beams there are Avada Kedevra?
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Thank you, corrected.
They did, then Darkseid died...
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Oh, so then you retconed their ability to punch through non-living matter.
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Could someone explain to me what the Omega Effect actually is? Darkseid's use of it always made me conflate it with Anti-Life usage. I vaguely recall an Alpha Effect as well.
There was also a quote referring to Darkseid as the 'Tiger-Force', which I've always wondered was a reference to something or not.
There was also a quote referring to Darkseid as the 'Tiger-Force', which I've always wondered was a reference to something or not.
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You can look up the description here at comicvine.
History wise, Darkseid's brother, the one who became the Infinite Man in the comics, was supposed to get the omega effect, but Darkseid stabbed his brother in the back to get the power up.
Post Flashpoint after Darkseid's death, the Omega Effect went to Lex Luther so he was Darkseid's successor for a while there.
Conqueror's Moon (part 23)
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27th December 2004
22:16 GMT -5
His head jerks back as the stream of ions hits home, but he manages to redirect the omega beam, the glowing red lines hitting my fusion cannon construct-.
"Errugh."
Construct, destroying it with enough power left over to severely abrade the armour protecting my right arm. I know that Kal-El could take hits from Darkseid 50's omega beams without being disintegrated or disabled so I.. ssshould be able to do the same. But let's not take a chance.
Two hammer constructs slam into his head, first from the left and then from the right as I fabricate a quick-drying super adhesive. Kal-El disabled Darkseid 50 by covering his eyes and causing a flashback into his skull, and even if I can't replicate that blinding him would be pretty darn helpful. The hammers fade and fracture as they hit him, so I create a third and bring it down on him.
He intercepts it with the back of his right hand, obliterating it with casual ease. I stab my daiklave forwards, point aimed once more at his eyes, but he claps his hands around the flat of the blade and holds it in place. Resistance is Futile.
He presses, but the blade survives his effort even as I fail to push it forward.
"Resilient."
I could invest power in it and try and push through, matching my soul against his. But while my rings give me adaptability I'd be astonished if he didn't have the edge in raw power. And-
"But insufficient." Unstoppable Advance!
-the daiklave blade snaps, Grayven 50 smiling faintly as the shards fall to the ground. His smile obscured a moment later as I spray his face with my adhesive. I pull my hilt back and -no point keeping it- drop it to the floor as he swings for my face with his left fist. I turn the blow aside as he tries wiping the gunk coating his face off with his right, failing as it flexes under his fingers.
Okay, with all that armour his face is the only obvious vulnerable spot. Try using the Sword of the Fallen? No, not yet. I use my temporary hold on his left arm to pull him closer and strike his abdominal armour with my right knee. Ugh, the force of the hit lifts him slightly off the ground, but I'm pretty sure that his armour took all the damage. He's not braced against anything, striking isn't going to work.
Red light seeps out from the thinner bits of Grayven 50's facemask as ohshit. The covering atomises as a point blank graaagh!
"You may use the Anti-Life, but I was born to it. Moulded by it."
My face is on fire, every nerve screaming! Eyes blinded or gone. I haven't quite fallen but my stance-.
"A pale imitation."
I feel something strike me in the chest and the floor disappear beneath my feet. I get just long enough to think 'good, he's a clumsy fighter too' before I hit… Something, something which craters around me. I take a breath… Yes, breathing fine.
Sinestro, eyes.
At once, Lantern.
And I grab a chunk of deck and use it to block his omega beam shot just in time to prevent him shooting me again.
"I was getting tired of seeing my face on someone else's skull."
He walks calmly towards me, negligently grabbing a guard rail and throwing it to intercept a smash from Barda that would have crushed Bernadeth's skull. Rayner is using his armour to protect him as he takes pot-shots at targets of opportunity, though I see his personal force field shimmer as Doctor Impossible works out the green laser trick. Scott's taken cover from the fire from the remaining gordanian marines and is trying to do something with his Mother Box.
I take a minigun out of subspace and fire directly at Grayven 50's face, solid slugs hitting his still-glowing eyes and causing him to blink and cancel the omega bolt he was preparing. I step forward, an odd feeling coming from my flensed face as my nervous system tries to interpret input from exposed muscles and bone. As we're in near-Earth space my mana siphon will work to reassemble me, but I'm sure that I'm looking the worse for wear right now.
As we close the distance Grayven 50 reaches out and grabs the barrel of my gun, the motor fighting briefly against New God strength and burning out as the muzzle deforms under his fingers. I reach down with my left hand, draw the Sword of the Fallen and stab him in the chest as he smiles, confident in his victory. The Sword pierces his armour easily and-
"Too short a blade."
-doesn't reach his skin beneath before the hilt catches. I jerk it back just before he can bring his right hand down in an attempt to disarm me. Slash, and it turns out that the thick armour on his bracers is enough to prevent me striking his flesh there too. Still makes his head the only viable target.
Then his helmet extends up from his gorget and covers his head as well. Aside from the two glowing red wells which mark the location of his eyes.
Before he can fully adapt to his new visual field I take an iron beam out of subspace and smack him around the eyes with it before firing a heat beam, melting it onto the front of his new helmet. Doesn't look like it's really sticking, but it should buy me a moment.
I've got a small radion blaster, but much like how the thanagarian fighters had to blast through my construct armour in order for it to do anything, this armour… Definitely has some non-Apokoliptian elements. I switch my heat beam to a cold beam construct and fire it at his chest as he pulls off the lump of semi-molten metal and throws it at my face. I ignore it as-. No frost build up, his armour is-.
Hah. I redirect the beam to the stab hole I made a moment ago, the beam piercing the armour's insulated exterior for a moment and penetrating the internals.
"Hurr."
He half-turns to block the shot, interposing his right bracer as I move the construct to keep the puncture in sight. An omega beam lances out of his eye slits and destroys the construct but I'm already changing tack, punching him in the face plates the moment the beam fades away. I - won't - penetrate - it - but - it -doesn't - appear - to - have - a - self - repair - func-.
His eye holes flare red as he punches me in the right wrist with his right fist, his eyes glowing red again. This time I just fire a construct through his eye holes, trying to force a feedback blast by applying pressure to his eyes. There's a red flicker as the construct dies, but no actual beam, which is definite progress. Alright, just cut the fucking helmet off and then-.
Boom!
I spare a half-second to glare at my sort-of brother. "Scott!"
"It's inbound!"
"And?"
There's a click from Grayven 50's bracers. The one I stabbed doesn't really do much, but the other has an unsettling red glow-.
"Agh!"
Whatever healing my face had managed is undone as Grayven hammers his left fist into my face! Not a full-on omega beam but ow! My vision goes for a moment as it disrupts the constructs I'm using to see with, and I fly to the side to dodge any follow up attack as I reinstate them.
"Is that it?" "It appears that I am the superior manifestation of Conquest."
People coming through the boom tube… Granny Goodness. Right, construct armour covering my face and Apokoliptian armour, he's clearly Grayven, let's have her-.
"Grayven, dear child!"
Huh?
"Granny has brought her best helpers, as agreed."
"Good. Kill my brother, the traitor and the Lantern. I'll finish the impostor."
22:16 GMT -5
His head jerks back as the stream of ions hits home, but he manages to redirect the omega beam, the glowing red lines hitting my fusion cannon construct-.
"Errugh."
Construct, destroying it with enough power left over to severely abrade the armour protecting my right arm. I know that Kal-El could take hits from Darkseid 50's omega beams without being disintegrated or disabled so I.. ssshould be able to do the same. But let's not take a chance.
Two hammer constructs slam into his head, first from the left and then from the right as I fabricate a quick-drying super adhesive. Kal-El disabled Darkseid 50 by covering his eyes and causing a flashback into his skull, and even if I can't replicate that blinding him would be pretty darn helpful. The hammers fade and fracture as they hit him, so I create a third and bring it down on him.
He intercepts it with the back of his right hand, obliterating it with casual ease. I stab my daiklave forwards, point aimed once more at his eyes, but he claps his hands around the flat of the blade and holds it in place. Resistance is Futile.
He presses, but the blade survives his effort even as I fail to push it forward.
"Resilient."
I could invest power in it and try and push through, matching my soul against his. But while my rings give me adaptability I'd be astonished if he didn't have the edge in raw power. And-
"But insufficient." Unstoppable Advance!
-the daiklave blade snaps, Grayven 50 smiling faintly as the shards fall to the ground. His smile obscured a moment later as I spray his face with my adhesive. I pull my hilt back and -no point keeping it- drop it to the floor as he swings for my face with his left fist. I turn the blow aside as he tries wiping the gunk coating his face off with his right, failing as it flexes under his fingers.
Okay, with all that armour his face is the only obvious vulnerable spot. Try using the Sword of the Fallen? No, not yet. I use my temporary hold on his left arm to pull him closer and strike his abdominal armour with my right knee. Ugh, the force of the hit lifts him slightly off the ground, but I'm pretty sure that his armour took all the damage. He's not braced against anything, striking isn't going to work.
Red light seeps out from the thinner bits of Grayven 50's facemask as ohshit. The covering atomises as a point blank graaagh!
"You may use the Anti-Life, but I was born to it. Moulded by it."
My face is on fire, every nerve screaming! Eyes blinded or gone. I haven't quite fallen but my stance-.
"A pale imitation."
I feel something strike me in the chest and the floor disappear beneath my feet. I get just long enough to think 'good, he's a clumsy fighter too' before I hit… Something, something which craters around me. I take a breath… Yes, breathing fine.
Sinestro, eyes.
At once, Lantern.
And I grab a chunk of deck and use it to block his omega beam shot just in time to prevent him shooting me again.
"I was getting tired of seeing my face on someone else's skull."
He walks calmly towards me, negligently grabbing a guard rail and throwing it to intercept a smash from Barda that would have crushed Bernadeth's skull. Rayner is using his armour to protect him as he takes pot-shots at targets of opportunity, though I see his personal force field shimmer as Doctor Impossible works out the green laser trick. Scott's taken cover from the fire from the remaining gordanian marines and is trying to do something with his Mother Box.
I take a minigun out of subspace and fire directly at Grayven 50's face, solid slugs hitting his still-glowing eyes and causing him to blink and cancel the omega bolt he was preparing. I step forward, an odd feeling coming from my flensed face as my nervous system tries to interpret input from exposed muscles and bone. As we're in near-Earth space my mana siphon will work to reassemble me, but I'm sure that I'm looking the worse for wear right now.
As we close the distance Grayven 50 reaches out and grabs the barrel of my gun, the motor fighting briefly against New God strength and burning out as the muzzle deforms under his fingers. I reach down with my left hand, draw the Sword of the Fallen and stab him in the chest as he smiles, confident in his victory. The Sword pierces his armour easily and-
"Too short a blade."
-doesn't reach his skin beneath before the hilt catches. I jerk it back just before he can bring his right hand down in an attempt to disarm me. Slash, and it turns out that the thick armour on his bracers is enough to prevent me striking his flesh there too. Still makes his head the only viable target.
Then his helmet extends up from his gorget and covers his head as well. Aside from the two glowing red wells which mark the location of his eyes.
Before he can fully adapt to his new visual field I take an iron beam out of subspace and smack him around the eyes with it before firing a heat beam, melting it onto the front of his new helmet. Doesn't look like it's really sticking, but it should buy me a moment.
I've got a small radion blaster, but much like how the thanagarian fighters had to blast through my construct armour in order for it to do anything, this armour… Definitely has some non-Apokoliptian elements. I switch my heat beam to a cold beam construct and fire it at his chest as he pulls off the lump of semi-molten metal and throws it at my face. I ignore it as-. No frost build up, his armour is-.
Hah. I redirect the beam to the stab hole I made a moment ago, the beam piercing the armour's insulated exterior for a moment and penetrating the internals.
"Hurr."
He half-turns to block the shot, interposing his right bracer as I move the construct to keep the puncture in sight. An omega beam lances out of his eye slits and destroys the construct but I'm already changing tack, punching him in the face plates the moment the beam fades away. I - won't - penetrate - it - but - it -doesn't - appear - to - have - a - self - repair - func-.
His eye holes flare red as he punches me in the right wrist with his right fist, his eyes glowing red again. This time I just fire a construct through his eye holes, trying to force a feedback blast by applying pressure to his eyes. There's a red flicker as the construct dies, but no actual beam, which is definite progress. Alright, just cut the fucking helmet off and then-.
Boom!
I spare a half-second to glare at my sort-of brother. "Scott!"
"It's inbound!"
"And?"
There's a click from Grayven 50's bracers. The one I stabbed doesn't really do much, but the other has an unsettling red glow-.
"Agh!"
Whatever healing my face had managed is undone as Grayven hammers his left fist into my face! Not a full-on omega beam but ow! My vision goes for a moment as it disrupts the constructs I'm using to see with, and I fly to the side to dodge any follow up attack as I reinstate them.
"Is that it?" "It appears that I am the superior manifestation of Conquest."
People coming through the boom tube… Granny Goodness. Right, construct armour covering my face and Apokoliptian armour, he's clearly Grayven, let's have her-.
"Grayven, dear child!"
Huh?
"Granny has brought her best helpers, as agreed."
"Good. Kill my brother, the traitor and the Lantern. I'll finish the impostor."
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Should be 'stream'?
Eh, DCAU Kryptonian, you ain't.
Heh, literally ringing his bell.
How Exalted of him.
Missing Full Stop.
Indeed. He's been Conquest longer, in this universe. (Yes, I know, no Mantling...)
Surprised his hand didn't get stuck there, but 'quick-drying'...
No leverage. Short of wresting him into a chokehold, super-strength is kind of useless here.
'Grayven'. Also, right in the face? Ow.
Oh, god, he's quoting movie Bane. What's next, 'I didn't see Life until I was a man.'?
Man, that's twice now he's gotten his face beat in Universe-50. He's gotta stop coming here.
Oh, boy. He's gone Murderface Prime. "Give me your face!"
Situation Now All F'd Up. Time for drastic measure, methinks.
'an'. Also: seriously ow.
Damn, how thick is that armor?
...Okay, now that's just being cheeky.
'him'.
Ugh, this is almost as annoying as the pirate fellow with the 'everything-proof' armor.
Well, I suppose if you could tank it, you could wear him down... In a few hours...
Seriously, channeling the Omega Effect through his fists? Impressive, but a dick move!
Too late for that, methinks...
Welp, Called it, Granny has thrown her support behind him. Ugh.
Hoo, boy, this just gets better and better. It's like The Renegade's party aggro'd every enemy on the map at once... If this keeps up, the only thing that'll save them is Deus Ex Batman.
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down on him.
and is trying
I predicted that Granny Goodness and Grayven 50 would team up, but I thought that the Renegade would have more allies at his side when it happened.
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Ah, I really expected for the Renegade to have at least one, maybe two more turns to show some progress in his duel before things got worse. I think everyone here knew that Granny Goodness would show up to fuck up any plan, I just didn't expect for that to be in the middle of this battle, now there will be Furies and "Kal-El Jr." to contend with as well. And really, he just has a small Radion blaster? I'm honestly disappointed, I expected for him to have a complete arsenal in subspace; New Gods are, after all, his main enemies wherever he goes (I would have said Chaos Lords, but they're already dead).
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Thank you, corrected.
The Sword of the Fallen is basically a big knife.
Thank you, corrected.
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So... Why didn't renegade begin slashing out armor plates with the sword of the fallen? It's the thing best able to cut through the armor, and slicing channels through the upper surfaces, before landing a firm punch or construct strike on the compromised section would likely be good enough to knock out a massive section of the armor.
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Because he's more concerned of the other Grayven getting the Sword off him and killing him with it. As such, he doesn't actually want to have to do a whole lot of work with it, given that he doesn't have a particularly high skill level.
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Has Renegade tried implanting swordsmanship skills via G-Gnome telepathy? I imagine Teth-Adom may have some experience in that field, if Diana wasn't willing.
At this umpteenth time of extreme physical mutilation and blinding, Renegade should probably look into whether he's being metaphysically cursed or something; he should also stop being so overconfident- you'd think Harry Near would advise him about that, assuming there are available and accurate records of Renegade's constant near-deaths. The apparent, and more importantly neverending, hubris is either just a persistent character flaw or a hazard of being a god of conquest (or both).
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Adom was trained to fight with shield and mace, and he gave up using both in his empowered form.
The Renegade has no desire to give Mr Near ideas on how killable he is.
I'm afraid that the risk of getting your face shot off is just something you accept in Grayven's line of work. Super tough people have only to many vulnerabilities, eyes are squishier than the flesh surrounding them...
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Grayven is starting to be like "MY CABBAGES!". Except, you know, it's his eyes.
"WHY IS IT ALWAYS THE EYES?!"
"WHY IS IT ALWAYS THE EYES?!"
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He is actually DEPENDING on Granny to save him?
Oh this will be hilarious.
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He should replace them with permanent construct eyes at this point. It would also give him an advantage because he can always change their quality to his desires, and they'd probably look cool.