With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Bramble Thorn · Dec 13, 2019

Mr Zoat said:
I am doing Masters of the Universe. But not with yellow.

If not yellow, what power is it that they have? Just who exactly has the power there?
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Please give your answer in the form of "By the power of X, Y has the Power!"
(Come on, you know secretly you want to.)

Darko · Dec 13, 2019

I think that if he does a masters of the universe one then it would just be an orange lantern like with Tai Lung, Blight and Azula

Mr Zoat · Dec 13, 2019

Darko said:
Nice to see how an AI thinks in your story.

Are you planning on writing any more NSFW chapters, not necessarily with the relationship between Paul, Holly and Karon, but maybe with Jade, Danette, Beatriz, Melinoe or some other characters in the future?

I aim to. I haven't planned anything yet.

If Yellow ends up in scooby doo then will he help the various villains there achieve their aim in more legal, practical and sane ways that don't require them to dress up like monsters?

Probably not. I imagine that dealing with Chest of Demons escapees would take precedence.

Honestly the mystery incorporated series at least explained their habit of dressing up as being influenced by that Annunaki.

Also in regards to Cornwall Boys powers. During the SI chapter in the Field Trip episode Tula said that she thought that his powers revolve around controlling the classical elements.

Does that mean that aside from being a natural born thaumavore he is also inherently able to control the classical elements because of his family heritage and any magics he inherits from them, or did Tula simply didn't know how his powers worked and assumed that the element control was family magic instead of something he learned by practice like other magicians like you previously said, or did you forget what Tula said?

No, it's just that classical elements are dead easy to everyone who isn't atlantean, because they struggle with everything that isn't water. At that point her summation was accurate.

Ace Dreamer · Dec 13, 2019

Mr Zoat said:
2012 03 03 04:12:15 YEKT
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Analysis if his lips was foiled by damage

'of'?

Mr Zoat said:
The may have been why Superman was unable

'That'?

Mr Zoat said:
allow those who swore to support me survive

missing 'to'?

I did like this viewpoint for the story - in far too few stories, in general, do we get a look like this. The willingness to learn and change (at least partly OL influence) is interesting.

Mr Zoat · Dec 13, 2019

Ace Dreamer said:
'of'?
'That'?
missing 'to'?

Thank you, corrected.

Darko · Dec 13, 2019

What happened to Devilance after the renegade beat him, he wasn't in that episode where the renegade went to apokolyps, and what is Kanto 50 planning on doing aside from catching up with his old love, will he maybe become a government assasin?

WargWolf · Dec 13, 2019

Mr Zoat said:
Then he activates the siphon mechanism he build using KordTech's radiation shield

Shouldn't it be "built"? Or "built by"?

Radiant Knight · Dec 13, 2019

Mr Zoat Outmanoeuvre is a britishism. As Atom is american, he would probably use Outmaneuver.

Sockmonkey · Dec 13, 2019

Mquz said:

Something about this reminds me of a dragonfly's head...

Honestly, sometimes I just live to make you guys suffer.
It's not a spite thing. I just need to share my pain.

Mr Zoat said:
I am doing Masters of the Universe. But not with yellow.

Which waifu: Teela, the Sorceress, or Evil-lyn?

Name one He-Man villain with a sane goal.

Offhand, the only one of Skeletor's minions who had actual ambitions beyond mookdom was Evil-lyn. She wanted to take over from Skeletor. Most of the villain-of-the week randos were trying the basic kingdom/world domination package.

Grimnar said:
Speaking of Zeus, his and OL's relationship continues to drill through the floor of the Mariana Trench. Is that ever going to have a conclusion where they talk/fight it out?

I suspect Zeus plans on killing OL. It's not just that he got Hera to ditch him, it's that he's been going around reviving the popularity of other Olympians besides him.

Navi-Hank · Dec 13, 2019

Mr Zoat said:
He lifts his right foot and then slams it down, sending concrete dust exploding into the air. Then he activates the siphon mechanism he build using KordTech's radiation shield technology and begins the acquisition of additional power.

Build should be built

Mr Zoat · Dec 13, 2019

Darko said:
What happened to Devilance after the renegade beat him, he wasn't in that episode where the renegade went to apokolyps,

The Renegade doesn't know or care.

and what is Kanto 50 planning on doing aside from catching up with his old love, will he maybe become a government assasin?

He wouldn't lower himself to work for an Earth government. But he might open a training program.

Radiant Knight said:
Mr Zoat Outmanoeuvre is a britishism. As Atom is american, he would probably use Outmaneuver.

WargWolf said:
Shouldn't it be "built"? Or "built by"?

Thank you, corrected.

Darko · Dec 13, 2019

Sockmonkey OL isn't reviving worship in Zeus because they don't technically need him seeing as they have weather control machines. Hephaestus and Vulcan on the other hand are contributing to the advancement of society with their skill and knowledge in divine forging and Melinoe could potentially help a great deal in the psychiatric community as Harley said that her powers to enduce temporary madness can be a great boon. Though there is a small chance that he doesn't like Zeus that much because he seemed upset that Zeus didn't do anything with the angels.

Mquz · Dec 13, 2019

The new Netflix She-Ra series has plenty of villains with plans that make sense and mental flaws that are understandable. Like, they're insane and evil, but you can sympathize. For example, Catra grew up trained to blame everything on Adora, so when she does something really evil - like almost destroy the world, she still blames Adora for failing to stop her. She literally is incapable of taking responsibility for her actions.

FreeGod · Dec 13, 2019

Darko said:
Sockmonkey OL isn't reviving worship in Zeus because they don't technically need him seeing as they have weather control machines. Hephaestus and Vulcan on the other hand are contributing to the advancement of society with their skill and knowledge in divine forging and Melinoe could potentially help a great deal in the psychiatric community as Harley said that her powers to enduce temporary madness can be a great boon. Though there is a small chance that he doesn't like Zeus that much because he seemed upset that Zeus didn't do anything with the angels.

A common theme in Greek mythology has been the Gods/Titans/Primordials being overthrown by the next generation.

Titan Cronus overthrew his own father, Uranus who was in turn overthrown by Zeus. Really they are overdo for a change.

rdfox · Dec 13, 2019

Mr Zoat said:
To him alone, unlike all other forms of life he had encountered either organic or synthetic, radiation was not merely harmless but beneficent.

Mr. Atom needs to visit the Chernobyl sarcophagus sometime. In 1991, black fungi were found growing within it that are not merely radioresistant, but actually feed on gamma radiation through a variation of the photosynthesis by which plants feed on visible light photons. As Ian Malcolm put it, "Life will find a way."

Darko · Dec 13, 2019

Hey Zoat will the SI help the villains achieve their aims in a sane manner this April Fools episode, or will he help the heroes?
Like if is sent to the She-Ra universe will he help Adora with her issues with Catra?
So will he help the heroes?
Will he help the villains?
Will he help both in the diffrent crossplanar excursions?

Mr Zoat · Dec 13, 2019

Darko said:
Hey Zoat will the SI help the villains achieve their aims in a sane manner this April Fools episode, or will he help the heroes?
Like if is sent to the She-Ra universe will he help Adora with her issues with Catra?
So will he help the heroes?
Will he help the villains?
Will he help both in the different crossplanar excursions?

Ah. You didn't get the memo or read the episode title.

It's ponies all the way down.

Darko · Dec 13, 2019

I know that episode 94 is going to be in equestria, but do you mean that that will be on april 1st in this fics timeline?
And i also want to mention that i was serious when i asked if someone could write a christmas song for Yellow Lantern Paul.

zerofarad · Dec 13, 2019

I love him (Mister Atom) too. This is becoming my favorite episode of this story.

Darko · Dec 13, 2019

Please be prepared for a ton of questions. I apologise in advance but i just had a sudden brainstorm and had to write this down before i forgot. Any and all answers given are greatly appreciated.
Does Hades have some type of black enlightenment because of his black quote marks and when he opened the gate to allow those alien souls to enter his realm you described his activation in darker letters, like the ones you use when someone is depressed or suicidal?
Do Melinoe, Dark Druid(though i can't remember if this character had black quote marks or was using a black ring without being enlightened) Darkseid also have black enlightenment?
Can the other enlightened lanterns(Talbot and Guy) enter their version of the Honden, assuming that something like that exists for their particular emotional spectrums?
Can people who have achieved enlightenment enter the honden of whatever emotion they achieved enlightenment of without a power ring, or do they have to have one or simply use magic?
Would it have been in Siskins ability to do so, travel through the yellow honden or whatever it is called if it exists, if he wasn't killed by Nabu, seeing as he was a fear elemental and achieved enlightenment?
Could Dr Mist potentially forge a white ring? You said that in this fic it requires great spiritual discipline and knowledge. Seeing as Mist has white enlightenment and is a millenia old sorcerer, like Atrocitus which you mentioned will have red enlightenment and is himself an ancients sorcerer, would he be able to make a ring if he tried and can he also travel through the white honden, again if it exists?
Did Dr Mist merge with the White Entity when he was granted immortality or did it simply grant him immortality without merging with him?
Can Guy see the emotions of others even without the ring, or is that only something that the SI can do because his experience with an entity was rather unique due to his then lack of a soul and now posesion of the Ophidians heart as his soul. Can Talbot see the emotions of others without his ring, because i was wondering how he differs in comparison to the previously mentioned enlightens and i remembered that he got red enlightenment when he found out about the British government and all their depraved shit, in comparison to the others who basically had contact with their entities, except for Siskin who just subsumed Terror Thing, and would someone that gains enlightenment without a ring be able to see the emotions of others?
Can people, without using power rings, merge with entities if they are in an emotional state like OL was when he merged with the Ophidian?
Are enlightened people immune or at least greatly resistant too Anti-Life, because Paul doesn't seem to be affected at all when he was exposed to it in that work camp and by that cultist woman and Mist said that the Anti-Life doesn't affect him and only suffered some minor burns on his fingers when he examined that cultist that possesed a piece of the Anti-Life?
If you still plan to have the member of the paragon OLC try and forge that red ring that they need to gain access to the white light then then will it be to fight the black light or the Anti-life like the New Gods tried to do in the Godhead comics.?
Are you planning on introducing characters that have each achieved a type of enlightenment in your story?

Mr Zoat · Dec 13, 2019

Darko said:
Please be prepared for a ton of questions. I apologise in advance but i just had a sudden brainstorm and had to write this down before i forgot. Any and all answers given are greatly appreciated.
Does Hades have some type of black enlightenment because of his black quote marks and when he opened the gate to allow those alien souls to enter his realm you described his activation in darker letters, like the ones you use when someone is depressed or suicidal?

Yes.

Do Melinoe, Dark Druid(though i can't remember if this character had black quote marks or was using a black ring without being enlightened) Darkseid also have black enlightenment?

Sort of.

Can the other enlightened lanterns (Talbot and Guy) enter their version of the Honden, assuming that something like that exists for their particular emotional spectrums?

Guy already did that for his m'eelam na'aquall. Talbot could learn to but probably wouldn't want to.

Can people who have achieved enlightenment enter the honden of whatever emotion they achieved enlightenment of without a power ring, or do they have to have one or simply use magic?

If would be difficult, but in theory anyone could.

Would it have been in Siskins ability to do so, travel through the yellow honden or whatever it is called if it exists, if he wasn't killed by Nabu, seeing as he was a fear elemental and achieved enlightenment?

In theory. He didn't know how to, though.

Could Dr Mist potentially forge a white ring? You said that in this fic it requires great spiritual discipline and knowledge. Seeing as Mist has white enlightenment and is a millenia old sorcerer, like Atrocitus which you mentioned will have red enlightenment and is himself an ancients sorcerer, would he be able to make a ring if he tried and can he also travel through the white honden, again if it exists?

Yes, but that would involve drawing attention to the Life Entity. Also, Dr Balewa doesn't like using his powers in that sort of way.

Did Dr Mist merge with the White Entity when he was granted immortality or did it simply grant him immortality without merging with him?

It didn't grant him anything. He was changed by seeing it and mimicking some small part of how it worked.

Can Guy see the emotions of others even without the ring, or is that only something that the SI can do because his experience with an entity was rather unique due to his then lack of a soul and now possession of the Ophidians heart as his soul. Can Talbot see the emotions of others without his ring, because i was wondering how he differs in comparison to the previously mentioned enlightens and i remembered that he got red enlightenment when he found out about the British government and all their depraved shit, in comparison to the others who basically had contact with their entities, except for Siskin who just subsumed Terror Thing, and would someone that gains enlightenment without a ring be able to see the emotions of others?

Holy run on sentence Batman.

Both are somewhat more sensitive to the emotions of others than they used to be. Talbot mostly ignores it.

Can people, without using power rings, merge with entities if they are in an emotional state like OL was when he merged with the Ophidian?

In theory, just about anyone can. It doesn't happen much, though.

Are enlightened people immune or at least greatly resistant to Anti-Life, because Paul doesn't seem to be affected at all when he was exposed to it in that work camp and by that cultist woman and Mist said that the Anti-Life doesn't affect him and only suffered some minor burns on his fingers when he examined that cultist that possessed a piece of the Anti-Life?

They're usually resistant to anti-life fragments. Nothing is immune to the whole thing.

If you still plan to have the member of the paragon OLC try and forge that red ring that they need to gain access to the white light then then will it be to fight the black light or the Anti-life like the New Gods tried to do in the Godhead comics.?

I DON'T REMEMBER THAT HAPPENING.

Are you planning on introducing characters that have each achieved a type of enlightenment in your story?

I have no specific plan to do that.

Lifelink · Dec 13, 2019

fictionfan said:
Titan Cronus overthrew his own father, Uranus who was in turn overthrown by Zeus. Really they are overdo for a change.

Zeus, like his father, got a prophecy where his child will one day end up usurping his position as well IIRC.

Darko · Dec 13, 2019

I DON'T REMEMBER THAT HAPPENING.
Ha ha, of course you do, you mentioned, during that episode where the league went to Apokalyps, a New God that was a member of the Council of Eight, a team of New Genesis greatest warriors introduced in Godhead

But seriously,your dislike of new 52 comics aside, what will they need the white light for if not to fight the black light or the Anti-Life?
And if Hades has black enlightenment then does that mean he could utilise a piece of the Anti-Life?
Speaking of Anti-Life, are you planning on introducing Empress?
I remember that you mentioned her when Batman was telling OL about the Alliance of the Just, but will she have a speaking role in the story and does she have that fragment of Anti-Life like in the comics?
And so Guy and Talbot dont't have the level of empathy the SI does, but are more intuned to what other people are feeling.
Will we see Guy perform some kind of green light technique that he has been studying?
If the Zamarons do create their own corps, then will the SI try to nominate Karras? That is if he even remembers thinking that he may be more of a fit for the violet rather than the orange light and if whatever criteria the Zamarons and Carol -14 use to determine who is good for violet rings will allow Karras to qualify.
So far OL,either through his own actions or the actions of others that wouldn't have done things were it not for his actions. has screwed over these members of the Light: Ras(dead), Orm(dead),Bee(dead), Satanus(imprisoned), Savage(probably still alive but was brutally killed by Adom, and with the whole time travel nonsense was vaporised by Mandated SI), Klarion(dead).
I listed the above members in the hopes that you will tell us what year he will screw over another member of the Light in a way that either leaves them dead or horribly ruined. So will you tell us waht year he will screw over another member, and would you be so kind as to leave a hint or two of who it could be?
Speaking of Satanus, after the league arrested him and sent him to Belle Revve, Mammon took on his form to fool the guys subordinates and infiltrate the Light.
I was wondering if the Light knows its not Satanus but still consider Mammon a useful member, was OL trying to cover up their arrest of Satanus so that Mammon can infiltrate the Light and spy for OL and is Mammon still on the Light after that whole angel thing in heaven where he revealed to the angels who he really was?
Will we be seeing Boss Smiley again?
Given what Georgia is up to it would be an interesting thing to see if he really is responsible for slowing down earths progress for his own amusement.
Also i finally discovered something very interesting about John Quinn. In the comics Constantines mothers maiden name was Quinn. This could either mean that the new Fate is a relative of John, the Golden Boy, who uses his mothers maiden name, or just some guy that happens to have a name that could be quite common and not have any blood or familial ties to our favourite laughing magician.
Will you be bringing chaos lord John back in the story?
Did the renegade give Green Arrow a full divine awekening or did he simply improve his metaphysique?

Mr Zoat · Dec 13, 2019

Darko said:
I DON'T REMEMBER THAT HAPPENING.
Ha ha
But seriously,your dislike of new 52 comics aside, what will they need the white light for if not to fight the black light or the Anti-Life?

Bringing people back from the dead entirely safely?

Darko · Dec 13, 2019

Bringing people back from the dead entirely safely?
Thanks for answering that.
I edited that and added several other questions while you answered why they need the white light.
Could you check them out and maybe answer them if you could?
Again sorry for so many questions i just try to write them in case i forget them.

Mr Zoat · Dec 13, 2019

Darko said:
I DON'T REMEMBER THAT HAPPENING.
Ha ha, of course you do, you mentioned, during that episode where the league went to Apokalyps, a New God that was a member of the Council of Eight, a team of New Genesis greatest warriors introduced in Godhead

THE FACT THAT HE WASN'T MENTIONED BY NAME DOESN'T MEAN THAT HE WASN'T THERE.

But seriously,your dislike of new 52 comics aside,

No.

And if Hades has black enlightenment then does that mean he could utilise a piece of the Anti-Life?

Anyone can. Most just don't want to.

Speaking of Anti-Life, are you planning on introducing Empress?

Yes.

I remember that you mentioned her when Batman was telling OL about the Alliance of the Just, but will she have a speaking role in the story and does she have that fragment of Anti-Life like in the comics?

Something like that.

And so Guy and Talbot dont't have the level of empathy the SI does, but are more intuned to what other people are feeling.
Will we see Guy perform some kind of green light technique that he has been studying?

No, I'm just putting that in to tease people.

If the Zamarons do create their own corps, then will the SI try to nominate Karras? That is if he even remembers thinking that he may be more of a fit for the violet rather than the orange light and if whatever criteria the Zamarons and Carol -14 use to determine who is good for violet rings will allow Karras to qualify.

He might suggest him. So far they're doing a one person trial.

So far OL,either through his own actions or the actions of others that wouldn't have done things were it not for his actions. has screwed over these members of the Light: Ras(dead), Orm(dead),Bee(dead), Satanus(imprisoned), Savage(probably still alive but was brutally killed by Adom, and with the whole time travel nonsense was vaporised by Mandated SI), Klarion(dead).

I listed the above members in the hopes that you will tell us what year he will screw over another member of the Light in a way that either leaves them dead or horribly ruined. So will you tell us what year he will screw over another member, and would you be so kind as to leave a hint or two of who it could be?

At this point they've learned to stay away.

Speaking of Satanus, after the league arrested him and sent him to Belle Revve, Mammon took on his form to fool the guys subordinates and infiltrate the Light.

I was wondering if the Light knows its not Satanus but still consider Mammon a useful member, was OL trying to cover up their arrest of Satanus so that Mammon can infiltrate the Light and spy for OL and is Mammon still on the Light after that whole angel thing in heaven where he revealed to the angels who he really was?

No, the Light knew that Colin Thornton had been arrested. It was in the news. He took Satanus' form to take his resources in Hell.

Will we be seeing Boss Smiley again?

Yes.

Given what Georgia is up to it would be an interesting thing to see if he really is responsible for slowing down earths progress for his own amusement.

Also i finally discovered something very interesting about John Quinn. In the comics Constantines mothers maiden name was Quinn. This could either mean that the new Fate is a relative of John, the Golden Boy, who uses his mothers maiden name, or just some guy that happens to have a name that could be quite common and not have any blood or familial ties to our favourite laughing magician.

Will you be bringing chaos lord John back in the story?

He never left.

Did the renegade give Green Arrow a full divine awakening or did he simply improve his metaphysique?

That's what it is.

Darko · Dec 13, 2019

THE FACT THAT HE WASN'T MENTIONED BY NAME DOESN'T MEAN THAT HE WASN'T THERE.
That seems really weak for a defence, no offence intended.
No
Come now we all have to let go of our grudges some day or they will enevitably hurt us.
He never left.
I know that, what i was asking was if he will meet with the SI again and play an active part in the story again?

Mr Zoat · Dec 13, 2019

Darko said:
I know that, what i was asking was if he will meet with the SI again and play an active part in the story again?

Yes.

Look, I think I'm being a sport here, but that red wavy line? That means that the word isn't being spelled correctly. And you didn't even use quote tags there.

Darko · Dec 13, 2019

Right sorry.

Ardy · Dec 13, 2019

Mr Zoat said:
Nothing is immune to the whole thing.

Not even the life entity?

With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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