With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Shotiegun11 · Apr 8, 2020

Mquz said:
I think it's more that orange rings have exceptional AI, while red rings are canonically more designed for very simple usage - they're point and shoot strong but simple construct on instinct - AIs get in the way of direct confrontation by being an intermediary if they are interactive, as opposed to Orange's clever but weak usage, which depends a lot on AI, or Green's mix of having relatively decent constructs and a decent AI. The red lantern AI still seems to translate languages and announce when it takes on a host / user.

Every Power Ring in this story (save Alan's buster ring and debateably Larfleeze!Ring) have had functioning, talking AI that make sense when giving information. (If it's designed with it.) Then the Red Ring in the Teen Titan universe just yell/groans/moans unintelligible.

The AI support for each type of Power Ring should be the same since the Ring is just acting as a computer. The power source Color affects the tone/way that it's expressed but only the Red Ring has been stupid about it so far.

Is it because Teen Titans is a more comic-book-y universe than the Young Justice Universe 16?

Edit: Trade off of AI vs Power doesn't make sense at all. And isn't prevelent to this story.

Mr Zoat · Apr 8, 2020

WorstMirari said:
I'dve?
errr, idk where exactly the apostrophe goes, but the tense is wrong

Thank you, corrected.

Shotiegun11 said:
So Mr Zoat, do Red Power Rings have shit AI support because Lord Atrocitus pulled a Ganthet to gimp them on purpose? Or because he was a clerical worker he doesn't now how to program the Rings and just makes them viva copy-blood-rage-magic-ritual thingy so they're messed up at standard settings?

Sort of the second. It would be hard to program the ring to do sophisticated things due to how he makes them, but it could be done.

Mquz · Apr 8, 2020

Shotiegun11 said:
Every Power Ring in this story (save Alan's buster ring and debateably Larfleeze!Ring) have had functioning, talking AI that make sense when giving information. (If it's designed with it.) Then the Red Ring in the Teen Titan universe just yell/groans/moans unintelligible.

The AI support for each type of Power Ring should be the same since the Ring is just acting as a computer. The power source Color affects the tone/way that it's expressed but only the Red Ring has been stupid about it so far.

Is it because Teen Titans is a more comic-book-y universe than the Young Justice Universe 16?

Edit: Trade off of AI vs Power doesn't make sense at all. And isn't prevelent to this story.

Green Lantern AI is seemingly not capable of helping with complex constructs. Orange Lantern AI is designed to allow creation and replication of complex machinery by helping the user visualizase a thing. It can also interface with the user's brain to slow down time apparently. Orange AI is therefore better than green. Red Lantern AI offering less combat support than it does for green makes sense in that it helps encourage a more direct approach. Also, it still seemingly does translation to alien languages, so it has some fairly complex functions. For all we know, that's an alien language the ring is using to communicate only with the user/ red corps as a security measure.

Chaoswind · Apr 8, 2020

The red lantern in Grayven universe has an AI.

Shotiegun11 · Apr 8, 2020

Mquz said:
Green Lantern AI is seemingly not capable of helping with complex constructs. Orange Lantern AI is designed to allow creation and replication of complex machinery by helping the user visualizase a thing. It can also interface with the user's brain to slow down time apparently. Orange AI is therefore better than green. Red Lantern AI offering less combat support than it does for green makes sense in that it helps encourage a more direct approach. Also, it still seemingly does translation to alien languages, so it has some fairly complex functions. For all we know, that's an alien language the ring is using to communicate only with the user.

Orange Ring users just need to Want the end result and the Ring AI can take care of the rest. This is a trait of the Orange Light as wanting something is all that is required if the data on how to do it is on the Ring. (And sometimes just wanting enough with no data can get the end result with Orange Rings (Construct Lantern Rings and FEED ME))

Green Ring users have to know what they are doing, how the construct works, and then will it (every single part) into existence. The concentration required is part of the Will that's required to for Green Light constructs. The AI can't pick up the slack because the Ring is using the Green Light of Will.

This is how I've understood it as it goes within this story. How correct/Wrong is this Mr Zoat?

Chaoswind said:
The red lantern in Grayven universe has an AI.

Yeah, it was made by Female Weaponeer that I don't remember. Zoat gave WOZ that Lord Atrocotis makes his Rings Via magic-blood-rage rituals and that's the reason they're messed up by default and difficult but not impossible to fix/upgrade.

Someguy Somewhere · Apr 8, 2020

Shotiegun11 said:
Edit: Trade off of AI vs Power doesn't make sense at all. And isn't prevelent to this story.

Going to point out that the AI and charge characteristics is a matter of the ring's construction. For example The First Orange Ring that Paul picked up from Larfleeze was rather primitive in its AI, and retained less of a charge then a 'modern' one like the standard issue rings that are used in the corp. OL mentioned this when he was dueling with a corp member on Maltus and they called him out on the prototype (assuming wrongly that the prototype is better then the production models, something that comes up a lot in fiction, just look at Gundam). The AI for that ring in particular was pointed out as being more Chaotic then his standard ring, when he met the New Doctor Fate who managed to shut down the normal one with ease.

Blue Lantern Scott's old broken green ring, once updated from his new lantern, had it's missing AI replaced by the new one...it was a bit more aggressive in it's knowledge downloads because that's the way it was programmed by the Weaponeer that designed the Lantern.

It Again shows up on the Renegade side with the AI modeled Specifically on Sinestro's Mind...it has his personality and memories, and can actively restrict a user independent of the user's wishes, as we saw when it first was acquired.

The AI is a matter of the programming the ring has, and the charge retention and power output is more due to it's quality of construction. The Star Saffire isn't a ring per say, but it functions similarly to a lantern and ring combined, but doesn't come with any mention of an AI at all. When Renegade visited their world, they mentioned it was an attempt to recreate power ring tech from scratch. AKA without a central core, AI or any mental safe guards.

Darko · Apr 8, 2020

Talbot's ring was manufactured using advanced technology, Qwardian to be specific.

Atrocitus makes his rings using magic so it could be more difficult to give them an AI.

Sephtian said that genius loci, which are kinda the magical counterparts to AI, typically form by accident in the wild, instead of being made by magic users intentionally.

Mr Zoat · Apr 8, 2020

3rd January 2005
21:58 GMT -5

From the window of the main living room slash work area of the Titans' tower I look out across the wounded city.

"Does this.. city have the best civil engineers in the universe or.. something, because the city seems to be going back to normal surprisingly quickly?"

Garfield nods. "Fights like this happen a lot around here. People started reinforcing their buildings, stuff like that. After the first few city-wide alerts people just got used to it." He glares at my alter ego. "What did that guy do to Raven?"

Red-Me looks up from his phone. "Infectious rage. He made her feel a fraction of the rage he does. She should be fine in a few days."

"That's not good enough!"

He shrugs helplessly. "I'm a Red Lantern. I can't heal people. I could make it worse if you want-?"

"I probably could. You haven't seen an orange power ring anywhere, have you?"

"What?" Garfield frowns at me. "No, what's wrong with the ring you've got?"

"I've been using it for ten minutes, and interfering with someone's brain is one of those things you shouldn't do unless you're certain you know what you're doing." On the other hand, Richard 16 was able to heal his uncle without prior training… "Unless one of you is in love with her, because when that happens violet rings become a lot more user friendly."

"Ahhh…"

"I will attempt it!" Koriand'r zips over to me. "I am having the great love for all of my friends, and nothing would make me happier than making friend Raven better!"

…

Why is she talking like that? Tamaraneans absorb language knowledge through physical contact, she should be grammatically correct. Shouldn't she?

The local Richard sticks his head up from the pile of technology which he and Victor are using to attempt to read the Manhunter's drive.

"Starfire, she's gunna be okay, and like…"

He looks at me.

"Orange Lantern. Usually."

"Orange Lantern says, it's not a good idea to use technology you don't understand on someone's brain."

Koriand'r nods reluctantly, sinking to the ground.

"Violet-Orange Lantern, why are you here?"

"A man called Time Trapper has alleged that his efforts to reengineer time have been hijacked by a man named Krona. Krona's plan allegedly involved acquiring parallel universe versions of me and-" I gesture to Local Jade with my right hand. "-Jade, so he sent me here to collect them."

Garfield frowns. "So what's with the robots?"

"Krona used to be a Guardian. Manhunter androids -or.. gynoids, apparently- were their first attempt at a police force before they started using Green Lanterns. Krona was one of their designers. Given that we've confirmed that they were targeting myself and my-" I gesture to Red-Me. "-local counterpart, it seems reasonable to conclude that Krona kept a few after they were decommissioned. We're waiting on confirmation."

"Parallel universe, huh? So we've all got, like, copies of ourselves living there?"

"I don't think we've got a Raven, but the rest of you, yes. Our version of you goes to school in Happy Harbour, so I usually see him a couple of times a week."

He brightens up a little. "Maybe we could team up sometime. We could have a whole team of Beast Boys-."

"He's not a Beast Boy. I'm not sure what caused you to become… This, but he hasn't been exposed to it. Plus, he's a few years younger than you and I don't think his mother would like it."

His eyes widen. "His m-? Ah-. And-" He smiles unconvincingly. "-what about everyone else?"

"I've met Cyborg's father a few times, though I've never met him. Our Robin is on my team, usually serving as a squad leader. Both Komand'r and Koriand'r are Orange Lanterns, operating in Vega to maintain order after the destruction of the Citadel Empire."

"And..." Koriand'r looks nervous. "What has happened to Tamaran?"

"They're.. recovering. Rebuilding their educational infrastructure and fleet are the first priorities. I.. haven't spent much time there recently."

"The Gordanians?"

"The clans most closely aligned to the Citadel either fled or got conquered and the rest were allowed to surrender. The psions were just exterminated. It will take a while for the security fleets to finish off all of the pirate groups, but Vega isn't such a bad place to live at the moment."

"And my parents?"

"Alive and well last time I spoke to th-."

"I think we've got something!"

Something flickers on the room's main screen, an image of-.

"Um, you might want to skip that."

Richard doesn't look around. "This could have vital intelligence on what Krona-."

"That's a planet in Sector Six Six Six. The Sector where the Manhunters killed every living thing-" The image shows the Manhunter squadron this unit was part of assaulting a ship, tearing apart the hull and spacing the people inside. Looks like the ship was packed to the gunnels with refugees. Who weren't wearing space suits. "-before the Guardians shut-"

Richard skips the recording forwards.

"-them down."

The ship is gone, and we get a momentary shot of heavily damaged Manhunters floating in space. Then a portal like the one Time Trapper used opens and the remains are sucked through. On the far side there's a.. small base on what looks like an asteroid. Slowly the Manhunters are drawn towards it, and as they are their bodies flicker with red light. Damaged and broken parts knit back together as the damage of the intervening millennia is undone. Once they've recovered sufficiently they orientate themselves on the asteroid and begin moving using their own thrusters. And when they clear the side-.

A tuning fork. It's a tuning fork. All over its surface are.. versions of myself and Jade, apparently aware and in a degree of distress. Some of the mes look like they've had a rather hard time of it. Manhunters -some quite a bit larger than the ones who attacked us here- are keeping station around it, while others are building equipment and a small squad-.

The image moves away before I can see what the squad next to the pile of power rings were doing.

Richard looks at me. "Do you know where that is?"

"No."

Ring, Jades need rescuing. And I didn't get to check in with mine before I left.

We've got the tape.

"But I know a man who does."

Mr Zoat · Apr 8, 2020

Shotiegun11 said:
Orange Ring users just need to Want the end result and the Ring AI can take care of the rest. This is a trait of the Orange Light as wanting something is all that is required if the data on how to do it is on the Ring. (And sometimes just wanting enough with no data can get the end result with Orange Rings (Construct Lantern Rings and FEED ME))

Green Ring users have to know what they are doing, how the construct works, and then will it (every single part) into existence. The concentration required is part of the Will that's required to for Green Light constructs. The AI can't pick up the slack because the Ring is using the Green Light of Will.

This is how I've understood it as it goes within this story. How correct/Wrong is this Mr Zoat?

You just saved me having to type that myself.

Mihari · Apr 8, 2020

Getting the Morty torture statue vibes from this tbh

FourthPear · Apr 8, 2020

The Venture Bros! God, I was hoping it was that clip when I saw the link! This is amazing!

Darko · Apr 8, 2020

Nice to see Kori's love for her friends.

I think the reason she speaks like that is because that's is what Tamaraneans talk like, the grammar I mean.
And her friends probably never complained about, or just thought it was how her people talked.

Kom probably talks more like a human because she decided to abandon the tamaranean way of speaking and adopt the human one when she was on Earth.
She has said that before she met Raul she felt like she never had a home so abandoning some parts of her culture in order to fit in make sense.

Also Venture Bros

Really curious what Paul would do if he ended up there.

Dakkan Sall · Apr 8, 2020

Mihari said:
Getting the Morty torture statue vibes from this tbh

I didn't want to do it, but you had to bring up the reference...

Kalmin, on seeing the after-mission report: Hm... I considered a concept like this once.

Dox, Paul, and anyone else in earshot: *stares at him*

Kalmin: Only in theory! I wouldn't do this; it's barbaric overkill. You could accomplish the same result with five alternate duplicates and a bleed-space siphon tether.

*They continue to stare.*

Kalmin: Which I wouldn't do, of course. I'm just putting forth that it's bad craftsmanship.

Paul: Right, no more interdimensional cable for you.

Darko · Apr 8, 2020

Kalmin isn't some wasteful fool like Krona.

When he decides to build doomsday weapons to bring about the apocalypse he only does it in the most efficient and cost effective manner possible without wasting so many lives in its creation, Sinestro's ring was a special case.

Why all those extra lives could be used to make more doomsday weapons instead of just one.

Chojin Patriarch · Apr 8, 2020

Mr Zoat said:
3rd January 2005
21:58 GMT -5

From the window of the main living room slash work area of the Titan's tower I look out across the wounded city.

"Does this.. city have the best civil engineers in the universe or.. something, because the city seems to be going back to normal surprising quickly?"

Kids' Cartoon logic. Damage and injuries are gone by the next episode, no matter how massive... How that translates into a realistic world, I have no idea...

Garfield nods. "Fights like this happen a lot around here. People started reinforcing their buildings, stuff like that. After the first few city-wide alerts people just got used to it." He glares at my alter ego. "What did that guy do to Raven?"

I wonder how many people have made the connection between the Titans' presence and the weekly fights?

Red-Me looks up from his phone. "Infectious rage. He made her feel a fraction of the rage he does. She should be fine in a few days."

"That's not good enough!"

Heh. Give you one reason why he's so upset at Raven's condition...

He shrugs helplessly. "I'm a Red Lantern. I can't heal people. I could make it worse if you want-?"

As I've said before: Maybe if you got angry enough at the pain, it'd heal. But it'd probably hurt worse than the original wound.

"I probably could. You haven't seen an orange power ring anywhere, have you?"

"What?" Garfield frowns at me. "No, what's wrong with the ring you've got?"

"It's a loaner. Not my first choice of colour."

"I've been using it for ten minutes, and interfering with someone's brain is one of those things you shouldn't do unless you're certain you know what you're doing." On the other hand, Richard 16 was able to heal his uncle without prior training… "Unless one of you is in love with her, because when that happens violet rings become a lot more user friendly."

"Ahhh…"

Cue embarrassed denial of attraction, because teenage boy.

"I will attempt it!" Koriand'r zips over to me. "I am having the great love for all of my friends, and nothing would make me happier than making friend Raven better!"

…

Heh, first time he's heard the local Tamaranean accent? I suppose she wasn't talking much earlier.

Why is she talking like that? Tamaraneans absorb language knowledge through physical contact, she should be grammatically correct. Shouldn't she?

The local Richard sticks his head up from the pile of technology which he and Victor are using to attempt to read the Manhunter's drive.

I see Victor's putting his technical skill to use. Kind of impressive for a former track & field star. I guess he had to learn to maintain his tech...

"Starfire, she's gunna be okay, and like…"

He looks at me.

"Orange Lantern. Usually."

...All that time and he didn't introduce himself? No-one thought to ask?

"Orange Lantern says, it's not a good idea to use technology you don't understand on someone's brain."

Koriand'r nods reluctantly, sinking to the ground.

Ah, that feeling of crushing a young girl's hope... At least it was gentle...

"Violet-Orange Lantern, why are you here?"

"A man called Time Trapper has alleged that his efforts to reengineer time have been hijacked by a man named Krona. Krona's plan allegedly involved acquiring parallel universe versions of me and-" I gesture to Local Jade with my right hand. "-Jade, so he sent me here to collect them."

I'm surprised there was no reaction from Cheshire about his blabbing her real name. I mean, Robin could easily track her down with what little he knows about her from this brief encounter...

Garfield frowns. "So what's with the robots?"

"Krona used to be a Guardian. Manhunter androids -or.. gynoids, apparently- were their first attempt at a police force before they started using Green Lanterns. Krona was one of their designers. Given that we're confirmed that they were targeting myself and my-" I gesture to Red-Me. "-local counterpart, it seems reasonable to conclude that Krona kept a few after they were decommissioned. We're waiting on confirmation."

Or he's been snatching more than Pauls and Jades from alternate realities.

"Parallel universe, huh? So we're all got, like, copies of ourselves living there?"

"I don't think we've got a Raven, but the rest of you, yes. Our version of you goes to school in Happy Harbour, so I usually see him a couple of times a week."

Oh, they have a Raven, she's just all of ten years old at this point and not active as a cape.

He brightens up a little. "Maybe we could team up sometime. We could have a whole team of Beast Boys-."

"He's not a Beast Boy. I'm not sure what caused you to become… This, but he hasn't been exposed to it. Plus, he's a few years younger than you and I don't think his mother would like it."

His eyes widen. "His m-? Ah-. And-" He smiles unconvincingly. "-what about everyone else?"

Heh, he didn't consider that his alternates might not be orphans. I'm surprised OL didn't say 'Mothers' given Danni and Marie's relationship...

"I've met Cyborg's father a few times, though I've never met him. Our Robin is on my team, usually serving as a squad leader. Both Komand'r and Koriand'r are Orange Lanterns, operating in Vega to maintain order after the destruction of the Citadel Empire."

"And..." Koriand'r looks nervous. "What has happened to Tamaran?"

Do keep in mind, kiddo, it's not your Tamaran. No getting upset or cheery...

"They're.. recovering. Rebuilding their educational infrastructure and fleet are the first priorities. I.. haven't spent much time there recently."

"The Gordanians?"

"The clans most closely aligned to the Citadel either fled or got conquered and the rest were allowed to surrender. The psions were just exterminated. It will take a while for the security fleets to finish off all of the pirate groups, but Vega isn't such a bad place to live at the moment."

Not that OL feels particularly welcome there. Given the effective betrayal the locals gave him...

"And my parents?"

"Alive and well last time I spoke to th-."

<sigh> Why do I have the feeling she'll want to visit?

"I think we've got something!"

Something flickers on the room's main screen, an image of-.

"Um, you might want to skip that."

"This isn't child-friendly stuff..."

Richard doesn't look around. "This could have vital intelligence on what Krona-."

"That's a planet in Sector Six Six Six. The Sector where the Manhunters killed every living thing-" The image shows the Manhunter squadron this unit was part of assaulting a ship, tearing apart the hull and spacing the people inside. Looks like the ship was packed to the gunnels with refugees. Who weren't wearing space suits. "-before the Guardians shut-"

Yup, definitely not kid-friendly. I bet there's a few paler faces in the room. And maybe Raul taking a professional interest?

Richard skips the recording forwards.

"-them down."

Good move, kid.

The ship is gone, and we get a momentary shot of heavily damaged Manhunters floating in space. Then a portal like the one Time Trapper used opens and the remains are sucked through. On the far side there's a.. small base on what looks like an asteroid. Slowly the Manhunters are drawn towards it, and as they are their bodies flicker with red light. Damaged and broken parts knit back together as the damage of the intervening millennia is undone. Once they've recovered sufficiently they orientate themselves on the asteroid and begin moving using their own thrusters. And when they clear the side-.

Yup, Krona's looting multiple universes for material and troops...

A tuning fork. It's a tuning fork. All over its surface are.. versions of myself and Jade, apparently aware and in a degree of distress. Some of the mes look like they've had a rather hard time of it. Manhunters -some quite a bit larger than the ones who attacked us here- are keeping station around it, while others are building equipment and a small squad-.

The image moves away before I can see what the squad next to the pile of power rings were doing.

Dang it... Well, hopefully he can get a hold of at least one charged orange ring there, even if it doesn't have his usual load-out...

Richard looks at me. "Do you know where that is?"

"No."

Ring, Jades need rescuing. And I didn't get to check in with mine before I left.

Nice how he can rationalise it like that. Time to get dangerous.

We've got the tape.

"But I know a man who does."

Now, how to get a hold of Time Trapper? Eh, I expect he's monitoring the situation...

Now, they have a target, and soon a location. Time for things to get moving fast. Got to wonder, though, how many of those Pauls will still be alive when this is done...

...the Titan's tower...

...the Titans' tower... (Possessive apostrophe for the collective noun, yes?)

Sceptic · Apr 8, 2020

Chojin Patriarch said:
Got to wonder, though, how many of those Pauls will still be alive when this is done...

Three and a half?

Darko · Apr 8, 2020

If the Black Lantern one is there then three and a half may be what happens.

Handlewithcare · Apr 8, 2020

Again, confused. How does this recording help? Assuming the manhunter gynoids don't have some crazy interdimensional locator sensors that was just a recording, how does that help locate anyone?

Darko · Apr 8, 2020

It could help them figure out what Krona is doing exactly.

Time Trapper may not know what he is fully doing and the others may not trust him so they want to confirm it for themselves.

Someguy Somewhere · Apr 8, 2020

Sceptic said:
Three and a half?

Clearly 42 is the correct answer.

52 is just unthinkable

Sceptic · Apr 8, 2020

Someguy Somewhere said:
Clearly 42 is the correct answer.

Sixty nine, dude.

Mr Zoat · Apr 8, 2020

Chojin Patriarch said:
...the Titans' tower... (Possessive apostrophe for the collective noun, yes?)

Thank you, corrected.

Someguy Somewhere · Apr 8, 2020

Sceptic said:
Sixty nine, dude.

Only in the Eros version.

thebishop8 · Apr 8, 2020

I wonder who's going to be tagging along for this adventure? I don't see why Komand'r would be left behind. The Titans are less likely, but it would be nice to have them along.

Stsword · Apr 8, 2020

Darko said:
Kalmin isn't some wasteful fool like Krona.

When he decides to build doomsday weapons to bring about the apocalypse he only does it in the most efficient and cost effective manner possible without wasting so many lives in its creation, Sinestro's ring was a special case.

Why all those extra lives could be used to make more doomsday weapons instead of just one.

The point isn't to destroy things like with Kalmin, presuming Zoat is keeping with Krona's usual characterization.*

It's for SCIENCE!

So the point is to destroy things in a way he can learn from it.

*His other characterization I've seen is being against the Guardians turning themselves into a bunch of sociopaths by denying all emotional drives but willpower, but I don't see how blowing shit up would accomplish that, so I'm assuming it's for SCIENCE! here.

Ngamer11 · Apr 8, 2020

Mr Zoat said:
"Fights like this happen a lot around here. People started reinforcing their buildings, stuff like that. After the first few city-wide alerts people just got used to it."

Paul should pass that idea around on Earth 16. It would really help with all the collateral damage there.

Mr Zoat said:
"He's not a Beast Boy. I'm not sure what caused you to become… This, but he hasn't been exposed to it. Plus, he's a few years younger than you and I don't think his mother would like it."

His eyes widen. "His m-? Ah-. And-" He smiles unconvincingly. "-what about everyone else?"

What must be going through his mind after hearing that? Probably a bit of melancholy at his lost parents and morbid curiosity of what that other version of him and his mom is like.

Mr Zoat said:
"And..." Koriand'r looks nervous. "What has happened to Tamaran?"

"They're.. recovering. Rebuilding their educational infrastructure and fleet are the first priorities. I.. haven't spent much time there recently."

"The Gordanians?"

"The clans most closely aligned to the Citadel either fled or got conquered and the rest were allowed to surrender. The psions were just exterminated. It will take a while for the security fleets to finish off all of the pirate groups, but Vega isn't such a bad place to live at the moment."

"And my parents?"

"Alive and well last time I spoke to th-."

Same thing with Starfire as with Beast Boy. Would it hurt more to see a version of reality where her world is so much better and her parents are alive?

Mr Zoat said:
"Um, you might want to skip that."

Richard doesn't look around. "This could have vital intelligence on what Krona-."

"That's a planet in Sector Six Six Six. The Sector where the Manhunters killed every living thing-" The image shows the Manhunter squadron this unit was part of assaulting a ship, tearing apart the hull and spacing the people inside. Looks like the ship was packed to the gunnels with refugees. Who weren't wearing space suits. "-before the Guardians shut-"

Richard skips the recording forwards.

"-them down."

I loved that clip from The Venture Bros. Hope the Teen Titans didn't see too much before Robin skipped that part.

I hope the Teen Titans tag along. I'd like to see their personal thoughts on Raul and Paul.

Darko · Apr 8, 2020

Hey renegade is going to be having trips from Earth to Equestria so maybe Paul can schedule something like that for the Teen Titans and his Earth.

Darko · Apr 8, 2020

Zoat does renegade Diana know about Cassandra Sandsmark and her being a daughter of Zeus yet?

I don't know if the renegade ever told her.
The time he visited the island could have been just to see and meet his new countrywomen and not to show Cassie around, but I can't remember.

WereDragon · Apr 8, 2020

Mr Zoat said:
3rd January 2005
21:58 GMT -5

I would like to say 'road not taken' but given the age and circumstances differences it is more 'road not built'.

Raul was rather quiet. Would have thought he would be interested in what he might have done with one of the useful Ring colours.

Mr Zoat · Apr 8, 2020

WereDragon said:
Raul was rather quiet. Would have thought he would be interested in what he might have done with one of the useful Ring colours.

He would have been. At one point. But he's been using the red ring for long enough to 'normalise' the experience, and sees himself as fulfilling a valuable niche.

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