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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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We get it. You guys don't like Tangseid. You don't have to leave a message that says the same thing in different words over and over and over again.

You know what this is like? People bitching over Renegade updates early on in the story.
 
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Mr Zoat said:
I turn to face the direction of Gotham Police Central.

"Come on; let's see if Commissioner Gordon will let us ride along with anyone."
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How many jaws are going to drop from seeing Kori? I am remembering an issue of Gotham Central where all the cops ogled Starfire when she visited; both males and females.
 
Ngamer11 said:
How many jaws are going to drop from seeing Kori? I am remembering an issue of Gotham Central where all the cops ogled Starfire when she visited; both males and females.
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Considering that she may be engaging in potential police work she may want to wear the clothes he gave her when he trained her.

If she's wearing the clothes OL gave her when he started training her, full body solar absorbing clothes, instead of traditional Tamaranean clothes then they may not ogle her.



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Oh who the fuck am I kidding, they're gonna oggle her even if she's wearing the solar suit.
 
SirKaid said:
Bribing politicians to take environmentalist positions? It's not actually all that expensive to purchase a congressmember, on the order of a few thousand dollars.

Might as well get all that corruption working for him.
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That might be smart, but swamp thing just doesn't do that sort of thing. He does ultimatums not bribes.
 
Darko said:
He could negotiate for them to not tear down so many forests.

He could also use the money to support his wife and daughter if they need help.

There was this fic where Poison Ivy marries Bruce Wayne and makes a more advanced version of viagra.

Starfire asks one of her teammates why she doesn't just patent any of the inventions she could make and just use the money to buy the forests so that she can keep them safe.
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can you drop a link to this?
 
Mr Zoat said:
Oh gosh no. Certainly not. But it occurred to me when writing this that an actual utilitarian would be a horrifying person wholly lacking in humanity. They'd have to be in order to function.
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I'm quite relieved to see that you're consciously aware of that, as I had considered it possible that you weren't.


I find myself looking forward to Koriand'r's Gotham ride-along.
 
Darko said:
Don't know how to do a link, but the story is called 'Marry The Knight' on literotica.
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For anyone who wants the link: Marry The Knight (Note, this is a series. I haven't checked, but I think that the Ivy, Starfire, viagra bit isn't in this installment.)

Incidentally, Darko, thanks for letting me know it was there. The author used to have that fic as well as a lot of other sexually explicit fics on Archive of Our Own but first stopped posting them, then started taking them down after getting harrassed both in comments on the site and on multiple social networks about putting sex in comic book universes that are "clearly for kids". I hadn't saved many of them before they were deleted so I actually never got to read a bunch of the later chapters of stories I'd liked the beginning of but never got around to reading. Though looking, not all of them are on Literotica either. Phooey. I liked Ultimacy.
 
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For anyone who wants the link: Marry The Knight (Note, this is a series. I haven't checked, but I think that the Ivy, Starfire, viagra bit isn't in this installment.)

Incidentally, Darko, thanks for letting me know it was there. The author used to have that fic as well as a lot of other sexually explicit fics on Archive of Our Own but first stopped posting them, then started taking them down after getting harrassed both in comments on the site and on multiple social networks about putting sex in comic book universes that are "clearly for kids". I hadn't saved many of them before they were deleted so I actually never got to read a bunch of the later chapters of stories I'd liked the beginning of but never got around to reading. Though looking, not all of them are on Literotica either. Phooey. I liked Ultimacy.
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Can you give a brief summary of what Ultimacy was?
 
Chojin Patriarch said:
Surprised some union or lobbyist group hasn't pushed to have them ripped out and 'proper' installations restored. :rolleyes: Naturally, their company would be putting forwards a reasonable bid for the project...
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See, this was probably floated, and maybe even attempted, but do you remember what happened the last time people tried to chainsaw Swamp Thing's plants?
 
Prince Charon said:
I'm quite relieved to see that you're consciously aware of that, as I had considered it possible that you weren't.
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Oh, don't worry. It was about the time... Well, I read a complaint that an author subscribed to a form of utilitarianism which would require them to torture a child to death if it prevented a sufficiently large number of people getting a small scratch. The implication being that a small scratch should never be sufficient justification. Then I realised that if the number of scratches was very big and a proportion would get infected and wouldn't be treated... Yes, you could get to a point where that kind of made sense.

It may be monstrous, but it may still be in the best interest of the community as a whole.
I find myself looking forward to Koriand'r's Gotham ride-along.
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I apologise for misleading you. That won't actually be the focus of the episode.
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For anyone who wants the link: Marry The Knight (Note, this is a series. I haven't checked, but I think that the Ivy, Starfire, viagra bit isn't in this installment.)
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Ah, I started reading that. I gave up when the inefficient repopulation program started to annoy me.
 
Mr Zoat said:
It may be monstrous, but it may still be in the best interest of the community as a whole.
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The brainwashing may be in the best interest of the community as a whole, but turning them into sexual playthings really doesn't serve the community, or him for that matter as even those willing to accept that the brainwashing may be necessary may not accept the sex slave part and may try to rebel against him, because leaving someone that twisted in charge can end terribly for a lot of people even if it does appear he is doing a lot of good. They may try to keep doing what he is doing, advancing the world, even if they remove him, but not doing the horrible shit he is doing.

Mr Zoat said:
I apologise for misleading you. That won't actually be the focus of the episode.
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Will this episode at least focus on Kori, even if it doesn't focus on her Gotham ride-along?

Zoat so far we've seen various alternate version of Orange Ring wielders and what they're doing.

Are we ever going to see more versions of alternate ring colors Paul's, like different red ring wielders, aside from Raul, different yellow ring wielders, aside from LP. etc.?
 
Darko said:
The brainwashing may be in the best interest of the community as a whole, but turning them into sexual playthings really doesn't serve the community, or him for that matter as even those willing to accept that the brainwashing may be necessary may not accept the sex slave part and may try to rebel against him, because leaving someone that twisted in charge can end terribly for a lot of people even if it does appear he is doing a lot of good. They may try to keep doing what he is doing, advancing the world, even if they remove him, but not doing the horrible shit he is doing.
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You are quoting an entirely separate conversation, about the failings of utilitarianism.

You've continually brought the thread back to same topic and don't say anything new, and it's getting really annoying.
 
Darko said:
The brainwashing may be in the best interest of the community as a whole, but turning them into sexual playthings really doesn't serve the community, or him for that matter as even those willing to accept that the brainwashing may be necessary may not accept the sex slave part and may try to rebel against him, because leaving someone that twisted in charge can end terribly for a lot of people even if it does appear he is doing a lot of good. They may try to keep doing what he is doing, advancing the world, even if they remove him, but not doing the horrible shit he is doing.
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I was referring to the scratch thing.
Will this episode at least focus on Kori, even if it doesn't focus on her Gotham ride-along?
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She's in it more, yes.
Zoat so far we've seen various alternate version of Orange Ring wielders and what they're doing.

Are we ever going to see more versions of alternate ring colors Paul's, like different red ring wielders, aside from Raul, different yellow ring wielders, aside from LP. etc.?
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Probably not. Extreme ring users with buckle under the madness or go v'tosh ka'tur. Another red ring user would either be rabid or more of the same.
 
Mr Zoat said:
Probably not. Extreme ring users with buckle under the madness or go v'tosh ka'tur. Another red ring user would either be rabid or more of the same.
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I was thinking more along the lines of say a yellow ring version that became a superhero or something close to that and how he would go about using his ring to perform his activities, unlike Lord Protector who's a ruler and doesn't engage in superheroics, aside from potentially fighting Mumm Ra sometime in the future, or a blue lantern that wasn't forced to become a criminal etc.

Basically not so much a focus on them mastering their rings, but on what they would be like under different circumstances and what they could achieve under those different circumstances if they made different choices.

Are we ever going to see a version of Paul that ended up with a non standard DC comics power ring, like say a Teal Ring?

There was this omake in the Teal Lantern story on SB where Paul is having an argument with his Teal Ring about the ring not allowing him to snipe al Ghul.:D
 
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Darko said:
I was thinking more along the lines of say a yellow ring version that became a superhero or something close to that and how he would go about using his ring to perform his activities, unlike Lord Protector who's a ruler and doesn't engage in superheroics, aside from potentially fighting Mumm Ra sometime in the future, or a blue lantern that wasn't forced to become a criminal etc.

Basically not so much a focus on them mastering their rings, but on what they would be like under different circumstances and what they could achieve under those different circumstances if they made different choices.
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Mastering the ring and what that does to their personality is where the internal conflict comes from. I wouldn't want to remove that.
Are we ever going to see a version of Paul that ended up with a non standard DC comics power ring, like say a Teal Ring?

There was this omake in the Teal Lantern story on SB where Paul is having an argument with his Teal Ring about the ring not allowing him to snipe al Ghul.:D
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Probably not. I did have an idea for a one-segment crossover with that bunny Lantern story, but that one has been dead for a while.
 
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Mastering the ring and what that does to their personality is where the internal conflict comes from. I wouldn't want to remove that.
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You wouldn't have to remove the internal conflict of them mastering their rings, just alter their circumstances, like Blue Lantern not having to be a criminal, or them choosing a different career path.

We've seen various versions of the Orange Lantern variety that chose different career paths and ended up in different circumstances, so writing about other alternate ring color users, aside from the ones you already wrote, shouldn't be all that difficult to someone of your talent.

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Probably not. I did have an idea for a one-segment crossover with that bunny Lantern story, but that one has been dead for a while.
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Hope you actually do this.
 
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How many jaws are going to drop from seeing Kori? I am remembering an issue of Gotham Central where all the cops ogled Starfire when she visited; both males and females.
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In fairness, it wasn't all of the female cops ogling her. Just two: Maggie Sawyer and Renee Montoya. Because they're, y'know, gay.

The rest of the women in the stationhouse (and, IIRC, the one gay male cop in the room) were instead rather amused at the reactions once they noticed Sawyer and Montoya joining in.

Mr Zoat said:
Ah, I started reading that. I gave up when the inefficient repopulation program started to annoy me.
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Well, given that the whole plot of the story was, according to its creator, basically an excuse for writing as much polyamorous smutty shenanigans as possible, is it a surprise that it's inefficient?
 
Zoat what happened to Morrow in the renegade timeline if Truggs didn't assimilate him like in the paragon side?
 
https://forum.questionablequesting....stice-si-story-only.8961/page-19#post-2451272
this post and the next few after it are prime examples of inconsistent story arcs if they were threadmarked properly it'd be one thing then I could just follow the threadmarks but as it is it's a bit of a pain trying to keep track of multiple story arcs the way it currently is

it could also be reposted to AO3 with the alternate paths being in separate stories of the same series

https://forum.questionablequesting....stice-si-story-only.8961/page-20#post-2451349
the next thread mark on this one doesn't go to the next post in the plot line

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That's.. not ominous at all. He raises his left hand once more and a new object appears next to the Hellspore. A turquoise and grey cube shaped device I immediately recognise as a techno-seed. Those can be used to generate plasma-servitors of various kinds. They're useful for hazardous environment work but I'm not sure where he's going to get a power source big enough to make it a threat Hellspore. I'm looking at a Hellspore. That'll make a Brimstone class servitor at least. Shit, how big will that be?
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recognize? make it a threat... Hellspore?
 
On thinking more on it. I think part of why it didn't hit me as hard as it has hit others is I'm honestly not sure if I'd be any better if given that kind of power. Oh, sure, I'd like to be able to say that I'd never resort to mass brainwashing to get what I want. That I'd never make someone want to be with me.

But I can't. Not really. Faced with the temptation to just be able to make people want the same things that you want? To know that, at any time, you could have your crush return your feelings? All you have to do is use the power that has been given to you and you can make it happen. All your dreams can come true.

I'd worry that within a week I'd be monologuing about creating the perfect world once the network of orbital mind control lasers comes online.

And I wouldn't even have the excuse that I accidentally drank a literal Evil Potion. But I'm sure I'd strive to be a benevolent God-King. I'd even convince myself that it's for the greater good. Look at how happy everyone is. How bad can I possibly be?
 
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