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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

He should already know about the sonic vulnerability of viltrumites. From the Vidor fight (Vidor's stopped moving. With the clouds he threw up he's having to concentrate to find me… Hearing, probably. The optimal time for a sonic attack, but none of the sonic weapons I know about are anything like powerful enough to cause a viltrumite more than mild irritation.

A construct wouldn't be so limited-. I guess I could fake manipulating sound waves directly.

I raise my hands and the dust buckles, clouds shooting away and giving me a brief view of blood squirting out Vidor's ears)
He knew that he could damage their ear drums with a sonic attack. He didn't know that the right wavelength would completely disable them, mostly because he didn't get that wavelength.
To be fair, this is also an invincible who apparently didn't understand why his relationship with Amber didn't work, so expecting women to slot into his own preconceptions of what their relationship should be and being upset when they don't play along with what he wants is par for the course
No, he knows why his relationship with Amber didn't work: she was a self-centred bitch. It's his relationship with Eve that he's having trouble with.
 
Cecil could at least control Sinclair and monitor him.

The alternate Mark on the other is a complete unknown.
Okay, but attacking a helpful for some reason complete unknown when the situation is already FUBAR, especially when the odds of attack succeeding are not even high, is just stupid as hell.
 
Unfortunately they're practically his only weapon, so that's what he has to work with.

That doesn't mean that it's a good idea to randomly lash out with it.
That's the attitude that fucked him in canon.

Currently he has one (1) Invincible that can fight the other Invincibles and that guy already doesn't like him and is only cooperating because of generalized loyality and protectiveness towards the planet and his own family and loved ones.
And then one foreign invincible with unknown but highly dubious loyalties who nevertheless just helped the first invincible take out two people who were very definitely enemies of earth.

So is the smart move to try to use these two potential allies/weapons/enemies against your other enemies to thin out enemy numbers, or to throw small rocks and mud at them until they get pissed off enough to murder you out of hand?
Cos those are his options.
Reanimen can't take a Viltrumite on anything except highly prepared ground and even then it's a coinflip.
Against Two Invincibles, Atom Eve and this unknown 'janissary', it's a no-go from the first step.

The smart move is to send guys to pick up the two disabled Evil-vincibles, and then point the two nominal-friendlies towards the nearest batch of hostiles and just pray that they all kill each-other.

Also, he should quietly execute the two incapacitated invincibles (drown em?), then have them converted into viltrimute-reanimen, which would give him a weapon that can actually potentially fight a real live viltrumite one-on-one.
It's a super fucked up thing to do, but it would be pragmatic and actually give him/earth a fighting chance against someone like Mark.
 
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As twenty zombots fall on our heads.
As twenty zombots gore themselves on x-ionized spears by falling right down on them.

Invincible exhales through his nose in a way I've only heard a few time when particular things anger him. Looks like the GDA Director WILL be dying today.

~~~~~~

Unless the zombots can fly or maneuver in air. Hopefully OL has the accelerate perception thing still going.

Also, should the Ring say 'Alert. Spatial Distortion detected.' since they teleported right on top of them? Or did he just not set up alerts on the ring?
 
He's not skilled enough or familiar with that form of teleportation enough.
I would have assumed he'd be very familiar with it going through the GDA files. Even if they nuked the main base, there should have been back ups.

Since this OL got all the dead superhero bodies and stuff, I would have thought he'd also try and get schematics for all the GDA technology, zombots and the stupidly expensive teleporting.

Or maybe they were just an 'all the eggs in one basket' and it was destroyed in the nuke. Seems kinda dumb, but so is nuking yourself.
 
Cecil screws himself and causes more death/damage in the by choosing the paranoid Xenophobic path rather than trusting Mark or trying to win the Earth born Viltrumite over by pretending to be nice. When you keep attacking and pissing off someone with Mark's potential power levels, it tends to end badly.
 
Goo-Goo G'joob (part 8) New
6th July 2013
14:33 GMT

There's a sort of scratchy-hum noise that the clickers make when a human would make a vacuous 'ummm' sound. I hadn't met Lantern Thump-Thump-Click before now and I think they're a little overawed.

"Illustres? I do not understand."

"Construction engineering. I checked the database and apparently that's something that you care a great deal about."

"Yes?"

I wait, but they don't say anything else. Looking inside them I see little flickers of fear, which strikes me as strange. I think I've tried to make myself approachable, even to the Orange Lanterns who've flat out told me that they want to kill me. I don't know why someone as inoffensive as Thump-Thump-Click would feel this strongly.

"What led to you that preference? Were you an architect before joining the Corps?"

"I… I find digging satisfying. Sir."

"Oh, come now. I've seen the rapid-deployment settlements you designed for refugees. That's not just a matter of a digging fixation."

"It is for clickers-. I-." And the scratchy-hum noise is back. "I apologise."

"Why, what have you done?"

"I-I-I-." The scratchy-hum sound is so raspy that I'm worried that they're going to snap something.

I crouch down, which is usually seen as a little insulting to a clicker but under the circumstances I think I'll be forgiven. If they're this nervous then it's probably better not to loom. "Lantern Thump-Thump-Click, you have nothing to be concerned about. I was making a small joke about your phrasing, not accusing you of misconduct. I am simply trying to discover more about you, to assess whether or not you can help me with a project I have."

I take a risk and gently tap his exoskeleton on the side in what is supposed to be a reassuring gesture amongst his species.

"I'm not sure why you're so worried, but if you'd like to talk to me about it, I'll listen and try to help."

"I don't want to kill you!"

"Okay. Thank you. That's good. I don't want to kill you either."

"The-the-others said…"

"Is this about Ragnar and Zartok? Because as far as I know they're the only ones who want to kill me. Heck, Xor and I are friends. Clarissi Dox and I have never tried to kill each other."

"The others said that we were supposed to try and kill you."

"Well… It's… Not a terrible level of power to aim for, but you aren't required to actually follow through on it if you don't want to."

"You don't want me to?"

"Dying isn't actually a pleasurable experience, so, no. Why do you think I want you to?"

"You know what it is like to die?"

"I've died twice. After the second time I started keeping clones of myself around in case I needed to transfer myself into one."

"That was true?"

"You didn't believe that, but you believed that every Orange Lantern is obliged to try and kill me."

"That was what Instructor Ragnar said."

"Lantern Ragnar comes from a highly martial society, and I recruited him by beating him in a duel. Naturally, he regards beating me… And probably Lantern Xor, as his objective, as… How he can measure how far he's come. You don't need to do the same."

"And Lantern Zartok?"

"He used to be the best fighter in his empire, before he got overthrown. For him, the idea of being the best fighter is so much a part of who he is, anyone who he thinks is currently better than him is a target. I fought him once and delivered him a crushing defeat, so he's working towards getting to the point where he can actually beat me."

"And then?"

"If he's successful? I'll be dead, so there isn't an 'and then'. But I'm hopeful that the spiritual transformation he'll have to undergo to get as good as me will require him to rethink the whole thing."

"Will it?"

"I don't know. 'As good as me' is a short list. Lantern Xor is the only other Orange Lantern to have attained enlightenment, and he didn't want to kill me in the first place." I give them another pat on the thorax. "Feeling calmer?"

"Yes. Thank you, sir. But are the rest of us supposed to try and kill each other?"

"We'd run out of Lanterns fairly quickly if that was the case. I suppose that for relatively new Lanterns, earnestly trying to kill each other while there was a senior Lantern around to prevent you actually doing so isn't a terrible way to train, but it's not a requirement. Heck, if your natural inclinations don't lie in combat, we've still got a lot of useful things that you can do. Like designing habitation for refugees."

Which is what I came here to talk to them about, but let's make sure that they're on an even keel first.

"Calmed down, now?"

"Yes, sir. I apologise. I should have realised that I was being hazed. But when you appeared in front of me the only thing I could think was that it was my turn. What did you want me to design?"

"We had our supply of magicians disrupted by an event on my homeworld. Given how turbulent my homeworld is, Clarissi Dox is keen to avoid future disruption. We've found another world that can supply our needs, and now we need to assist them in setting up the production facilities we want to produce the things that we want to buy from them. And while we don't think that the Reach know about them, a certain degree of Reach-hardening would be useful."

I raise my eyebrows and smile.

"Are you up for it?"

"Yes. Absolutely."

"Do you have any experience with magic construction?"

"None at all!"

"Then you're no worse off than anyone else here. If you've got the time now, we can go there and I can introduce you to the people you'll be working with."

I look around, taking in the Orange Lanterns who appear to be rubbernecking in the expectation that there's going to be a fight breaking out.

"But before we do that, why don't you point out the Lanterns who were in on that hazing thing. I feel that I could stand to offer them a little more instruction."
 
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I would have assumed he'd be very familiar with it going through the GDA files. Even if they nuked the main base, there should have been back ups.

Since this OL got all the dead superhero bodies and stuff, I would have thought he'd also try and get schematics for all the GDA technology, zombots and the stupidly expensive teleporting.

Or maybe they were just an 'all the eggs in one basket' and it was destroyed in the nuke. Seems kinda dumb, but so is nuking yourself.
The best way to keep highly secret data highly secret is to not share it around. Surviving agents also destroyed records to keep them out of enemy hands.
 
"He used to be the best fighter in his empire, before he got overthrown. For him, the idea of being the best fighter in so much a part of who he is, anyone who he thinks is currently better than him is a target. I fought him once and delivered him a crushing defeat, so he's working towards getting to the point where he can actually beat me."
That should say 'is'.
 
6th July 2013
14:33 GMT


There's a sort of scratchy-hum noise that the clickers make when a human would make a vacuous 'ummm' sound. I hadn't met Lantern Thump-Thump-Click before now and I think they're a little overawed.

"Illustres? I do not understand."

"Construction engineering. I checked the database and apparently that's something that you care a great deal about."
Ah, looking for a builder, eh? Being a Lantern capable of destroying an enemy is easy, but a lot of them aren't that great at rebuilding the battlefield afterwards, I expect. So, for Earth or Artemis' world? Likely the latter, he's not interested in easy fixes on Earth, after all.

"Yes?"

I wait, but they don't say anything else. Looking inside them I see little flickers of fear, which strikes me as strange. I think I've tried to make myself approachable, even to the Orange Lanterns who've flat out told me that they want to kill me. I don't know why someone as inoffensive as Thump-Thump-Click would feel this strongly.
I mean, if he's a fresh recruit and the second-highest ranked Lantern, and unequivocally most powerful, came up to him, there's definitely all manner of scenarios running through his head.

"What led to you that preference? Were you an architect before joining the Corps?"

"I… I find digging satisfying. Sir."
And somewhere, a Kreigsman of the Death Korps feels odd pangs of spiritual sympathy. 😏

"Oh, come now. I've seen the rapid-deployment settlements you designed for refugees. That's not just a matter of a digging fixation."

"It is for clickers-. I-." And the scratchy-hum noise is back. "I apologise."
Ah, the young'un has a bit of an architectural hobby, eh?

"Why, what have you done?"

"I-I-I-." The scratchy-hum sound is so raspy that I'm worried that they're going to snap something.
Too panicky to even stabilise himself with his Ring. Man, what does he think is going to happen?

I crouch down, which is usually seen as a little insulting to a clicker but under the circumstances I think I'll be forgiven. If they're this nervous then it's probably better not to loom. "Lantern Thumb-Thump-Click, you have nothing to be concerned about. I was making a small joke about your phrasing, not accusing you of misconduct. I am simply trying to discover more about you, to assess whether or not you can help me with a project I have."
Hopefully that calms him down a bit.

I take a risk and gently tap his exoskeleton on the side in what is supposed to be a reassuring gesture amongst his species.

"I'm not sure why you're so worried, but if you'd like to talk to me about it, I'll listen and try to help."
At least he's not having the Lantern equivalent of 'Oh god, Batman is touching me. Am I about to die?' moment. 😄

"I don't want to kill you!"

"Okay. Thank you. That's good. I don't want to kill you either."
To be fair, it would be - and pardon the unavoidable pun - like squashing a bug.

"The-the-others said…"

"Is this about Ragnar and Zartok? Because as far as I know they're the only ones who want to kill me. Heck, Xor and I are friends. Clarissi Dox and I have never tried to kill each other."
I mean, Dox may have entertained thoughts of homicide, but he's never acted on them.

"The others said that we were supposed to try and kill you."

"Well… It's… Not a terrible level of power to aim for, but you aren't required to actually follow through on it if you don't want to."
I really hope that's not a thing they're actually teaching new recruits. Otherwise, there might need to be some retraining.

"You don't want me to?"

"Dying isn't actually a pleasurable experience, so, no. Why do you think I want you to?"
And if it was, I'd be rather worried about your state of mind.

"You know what it is like to die?"

"I've died twice. After the second time I started keeping clones of myself around in case I needed to transfer myself into one."
Something which isn't typical of the average Orange Lantern, mind you. He does have rather special quirks that enable him to do that.

"That was true?"

"You didn't believe that, but you believed that every Orange Lantern is obliged to try and kill me."
I mean, they could have stories about you drinking plasma and pissing lightning, but it wouldn't be true.

"That was what Instructor Ragnar said."

"Lantern Ragnar comes from a highly martial society, and I recruited him by beating him in a duel. Naturally, he regards beating me… And probably Lantern Xor, as his objective, as… How he can measure how far he's come. You don't need to do the same."
Ah, I see the problem now. Hopefully he isn't holding every recruit up to his high standards.

"And Lantern Zartok?"

"He used to be the best fighter in his empire, before he got overthrown. For him, the idea of being the best fighter in so much a part of who he is, anyone who he thinks is currently better than him is a target. I fought him once and delivered him a crushing defeat, so he's working towards getting to the point where he can actually beat me."
Though I suspect there's still a long way to climb before he sees the peak of Mount Tai, so to speak.

"And then?"

"If he's successful? I'll be dead, so there isn't an 'and then'. But I'm hopeful that the spiritual transformation he'll have to undergo to get as good as me will require him to rethink the whole thing."
...Eh, I wouldn't count on it. But if that hope keeps him happy, let him dream.

"Will it?"

"I don't know. 'As good as me' is a short list. Lantern Xor is the only other Orange Lantern to attain enlightenment, and he didn't want to kill me in the first place." I give them another pat on the thorax. "Feeling calmer?"

"Yes. Thank you, sir. But are the rest of us supposed to try and kill each other?"
God, no! What sort of lunatic would want their soldiers killing each other long before they see actual combat?

"We'd run out of Lanterns fairly quickly if that was the case. I suppose that for a relatively new Lanterns, earnestly trying to kill each other while there was a senior Lantern around to prevent you actually doing so isn't a terrible way to train, but it's not a requirement. Heck, if your natural inclinations don't lie in combat, we've still got a lot of useful things that you can do. Like designing habitation for refugees."
Or medical, like Soranik Natu. Or administration. Or social counselling. It's one of the more fully equipped corps, I suspect. Greenies probably don't lean far from the 'space cop' archetype, barring oddballs like Salaak.

Which is what I came here to talk to them about, but let's make sure that they're on an even keel first.

"Calmed down, now?"

"Yes, sir. I apologise. I should have realised that I was being hazed. But when you appeared in front of me the only thing I could think was that it was my turn. What did you want me to design?"
Good, good. But Hazing? That may need attending to.

"We had our supply of magicians disrupted by an event on my homeworld. Given how turbulent my homeworld is, Clarissi Dox is keen to avoid future disruption. We've found another world that can supply our needs, and now we need to assist them in setting up the production facilities we want to produce the things that we want to buy from them. And while we don't think that the Reach know about them, a certain degree of Reach-hardening would be useful."
Though I would hope it's a ways out of their way. Still, better to be prepared and safe than unprepared and caught bare-assed.

I raise my eyebrows and smile.

"Are you up for it?"

"Yes. Absolutely."
If nothing else, it's a chance to make a name for himself in a corps of largely interchangeable recruits.

"Do you have any experience with magic construction?"

"None at all!"
All the better, no preconceptions to interfere with his developments.

"Then you're no worse off than anyone else here. If you've got the time now, we can go there and I can introduce you to the people you'll be working with."

I look around, taking in the Orange Lanterns who appear to be rubbernecking in the expectation that there's going to be a fight breaking out.

"But before we do that, why don't you point out the Lanterns who were in on that hazing thing. I feel that I could stand to offer them a little more instruction."
I suspect there's going to be a few guys about to master Wholeness Rightly Assumed in a right hurry.

Good to see OL exercising his ultimate superpower as a Lantern commander: Delegation. And it puts at least one Lantern on Artemis' world in case of emergency for the next few weeks. Though it sounds like he's got to dispense a few corrections to the attitudes of some wise guy Lantern recruits first. Gonna be some sore asses in the barracks later...
 
"We'd run out of Lanterns fairly quickly if that was the case. I suppose that for a relatively new Lanterns, earnestly trying to kill each other while there was a senior Lantern around to prevent you actually doing so isn't a terrible way to train, but it's not a requirement. Heck, if your natural inclinations don't lie in combat, we've still got a lot of useful things that you can do. Like designing habitation for refugees."
Extraneous 'a'
 
@Mr Zoat, where is Satanus being held? Also, if he were to die, would he become a powerful demon again or be forced to start over from nothing like a regular sinner?
 
Thank you, corrected.
@Mr Zoat, where is Satanus being held?
In the SI's ring, as a construct lantern.
Also, if he were to die, would he become a powerful demon again or be forced to start over from nothing like a regular sinner?
Depends what you mean by 'die'. He's a bit fleshier than a normal demon, but as much as he prefers a meat body he's still mostly made of magic energy. If he got stabbed with the Sword of the Fallen and then killed while mortal than his soul would just be that of another sinner.
 
In the SI's ring, as a construct lantern.
He was turned into a human by Finality Man's Omega Beam in Episode 139: Prep Time. Satanus acts as if it was only temporary, but it seemed pretty clear he was in denial.

Edit: Wait, do you mean Paul re-assimilated him?
 
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He was turned into a human by Finality Man's Omega Beam in Episode 139: Prep Time. Satanus acts as if it was only temporary, but it seemed pretty clear he was in denial.
Yeah, last we saw him he was trying to cast some spell or something and Paul thought that he doesn't even have enough magic to even be considered an amateur.
 
He was turned into a human by Finality Man's Omega Beam in Episode 139: Prep Time. Satanus acts as if it was only temporary, but it seemed pretty clear he was in denial.

Edit: Wait, do you mean Paul re-assimilated him?
Ah, no, I forgot about that. In that case, I... Guess he's back at Belle Reve? He's far weaker now so they shouldn't have much of a problem holding him.
 
"But before we do that, why don't you point out the Lanterns who were in on that hazing thing. I feel that I could stand to offer them a little more instruction."

good call, OL. that's something that should also be broached with Dox. if Ragnar is an official "Instructor," then he's giving misleading instructions. if killing the Illustres is one person's driving goal, fine, but that should not be being communicated as an expectation for all recruits.
 
What sort of emotions do you feel when you get successfully corrected about your own past writing, just as in this situation?
Mildly sad at the state of my misfiring middle-aged brain.
good call, OL. that's something that should also be broached with Dox. if Ragnar is an official "Instructor," then he's giving misleading instructions. if killing the Illustres is one person's driving goal, fine, but that should not be being communicated as an expectation for all recruits.
No, that's kind of below Dox's level.
 
Ah, no, I forgot about that. In that case, I... Guess he's back at Belle Reve? He's far weaker now so they shouldn't have much of a problem holding him.
... Wouldn't he have gotten loose during the anti life event?
He probably thrived during the whole thing. With or without powers.
 
... Wouldn't he have gotten loose during the anti life event?
He probably thrived during the whole thing. With or without powers.
He was in prison during that time.

Paul recruited the prisoners after he Assimilated Satanus and had him use demon magic to make a contract that would get the prisoners to fight Manheim.

He later sent him to fight Finality Man, who used the Omega Beams to turn the construct into a human.

Last we saw him he lacked any magic.
 
He was in prison during that time.

Paul recruited the prisoners after he Assimilated Satanus and had him use demon magic to make a contract that would get the prisoners to fight Manheim.

He later sent him to fight Finality Man, who used the Omega Beams to turn the construct into a human.

Last we saw him he lacked any magic.
Interesting, and concerning, that Omega Beams are superficially identical to The Sword Of The Fallen.

(...hehehe, The Schwartz Of The Fallen...)
 

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