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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

And that is one heck of a kludge-word.
Thank you.
Well, that's a hell of a discussion to be having right in front of the Changeling. Then again, most of it is going over his head, I'd bet. Not like the hive had a sex education program.
As a changeling who survived under Queen Chrysalis, Pharynx has an accute sense of which rants he's supposed to chime in on and which ones he's supposed to pretend he didn't hear. It was a survival skill.
 
"What, you want me to ask Shining Armor if he remembers Chrysalis raping him while he was mind controlled? Because he's the obvious person to ask, but that seems a little insensitive to me."

I'll admit, I slowly recoiled in the same way. Full-body cringe.

Assuming the fic Mr Zoat went to the effort to link isn't a one-off which won't be referenced again, let's consider how Shining Armor could become a notable character based on this plot line (if the changeling grubs are more Pony than a normal Changeling):
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/28718/9/the-foal-in-the-basket/fatherhood


The chapter linked previously was steamy, while this one is about Shining Armor realizing the "terrible dream" wasn't a dream, and meeting his infant daughter. Unfortunately, for anyone who has been bleeding their wallet for Musume merch and mobile games, these equines aren't being wholesome. Lactation comes up too, but it isn't portrayed as a fetish or kink. Shining Armor is aghast, afraid, and feels shame due the perceived betrayal of his wife.

These changelings might receive cutie marks, even if the rest of their biology remains Changeling. Or their shapeshifting could be limited to ancestors on their father's side. Or they could grow into something like the bat-winged ponies who receive minimal screentime, eventually mingling into a proper forth tribe. I'm if ignoring the Kirin, crystal, sea, and other miscellaneous types and recommend you do the same before trying to reconcile this with With This Ring MLP-FIM lore.
 
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I sign, and step closer to the changeling. "To clear the air, Pharynx, I killed your queen because she threatened my people. Learn from her mistake, and I shall never have cause to threaten you."
'sigh'
"Because we don't want you going extinct, Agent Pharynx. Your populations needs the capacity to produce grubs, or you don't have a future."
'population needs'
or
'populations need'
"And do you know if there are any? Did Chrysalis ever mention them?"

"No to me."
'Not'
Celestia eyes the tube again, and I'm not good enough any pony expressions to work out what she's feeling. "Thank you. I will need to discuss this with King Sombra before making any sort of decision."
'at'?
 
@Mr Zoat I curse you for linking that fimfic.

In the first few paragraphs, I was slapped in the face with a disorienting nostalgia of the time before Hasbro repeatedly shat on us with the stupidest lore that could ever exist.

We used to try to make things make sense!
Fat lot of good it did us, in the end.
 
'sigh'
'population needs'
or
'populations need'
'Not'
'at'?
Thank you, corrected.
@Mr Zoat I curse you for linking that fimfic.

In the first few paragraphs, I was slapped in the face with a disorienting nostalgia of the time before Hasbro repeatedly shat on us with the stupidest lore that could ever exist.

We used to try to make things make sense!
Fat lot of good it did us, in the end.
I'm glad of/sorry about that, delete whichever is inappropriate.

What particular thing are you referring to?
 
Cappare (part 24) New
27th July 2013
01:36 GMT -5


"I could push it!"

I sigh, and mentally curse my colleagues for leaving me on Kara-wrangling duty. To be fair, she did destroy the lion's share of the Eradicator androids excavating what Har-Zod tells us is called the Doomsday. For some reason they didn't register her as a kryptonian, which… Given that she appears to be this universe's Power Girl appears to be because kryptonians from her universe are different enough not to match their profile… Or given what ended up happening to Power Girl, it could be because she's slightly out of tune with reality.

Hm.

"I know you could, Kara, and-."

"Supergirl!"

I nod. "She could too, but it would take about five million years and that's not accounting for time dilation because she'd be flying through normal space."

"I could do it in half that!"

"Which is still.. two and a half million years, and that's assuming that you don't eat, sleep or relieve yourself, and assuming that you get sufficient sunlight on the way."

She frowns, looking down at the Earth as she considers the issue.

"Oh, phooey!"

"You can be the one who pushes it through the boom tube if you want."

"That's not the same!"

"No, it-." In the corner of my eye I catch sight of an approaching orange speck. "It wouldn't take millions of years. Lantern Taranna." I raise my right hand in greeting. "What brings you here?"

"Sir-. Hey Kara!"

"Supergirl!"

"Huh?" Taranna looks around in confusion. "Where?"

"Not you too!" Kara turns to me. "This is totally your fault!"

"You snoozed, you lost, Superwoman." She pouts at me. "Lantern Taranna?"

"Did something.. weird.. happen with you and my mum?"

Watching Kara's expression is an education on kryptonian facial muscle control. She goes from watching me with a mild frown, to a flattening of her brow when she understands the implication -that takes several seconds- to a gradual widening of her eyes and descending of her jaw in astonished horror. It's like something I'd expect on a melodramatic stage play where expressions had to be exaggerated so that the audience could see them.

"She mistakenly thought that I was… Ah, what's the word?"

"Ah…" Lantern Taranna looks me over cautiously. "'Domitoring'?"

"Yes. Taking her as a concubine. I'm not, I told her that, so… No."

She doesn't look entirely convinced. "And you didn't say..? Anything else?"

"Ah, we mostly talked about your brother? Are you going somewhere with this?"

"I… Suppose not?"

We watch each other for a moment.

"Okay? Ah, anyway, Kara, as one of four kryptonians from Krypton that we have around, what do you think should happen to the Doomsday?"

"We should put it back together!"

"And then do what with it?"

"None of us know how to fly it, so I guess we just park it somewhere! Ooh, and we should study it!"

"To what end?"

"I just think it's neat!"

I sigh. "I do too. It's just that it's rather extremely dangerous, and-." My ring shimmers. "Excuse me. Yes?"

Alan's head appears. "Paul, did you say something.. weird.. to Lantern Coutara?"

"
W-?" I look from him to Taranna, but she doesn't appear to know what he's talking about either. "Could you please define 'weird', because Lantern Taranna asked me the same thing."

"Apparently, you betrothed us. Now, I-."

"
I most certainly did not. I just gave you a favourable reference!"

Taranna silently mouths 'oh' and nods her head.

"Okay." He sighs. "Paul, I appreciate what you're trying to do, but I need you to stop. Completely. Do you understand?"

I nod. "Yes. I'm.. sorry for the inconvenience, whatever it is."

He sighs again, nodding. "I can handle it. Just… Not again." I nod solemnly. "Arisia's just about finished talking to the daxamites, if there's anything you want to say to 'em, now's the time."

"
I'll be right-"

I see you.

"
-here."

I nod as Alan lowers his ring, and then walk towards the red-lit cell where Cara Yat is being held. I'm not sure if it's her remaining injuries or her mental state, but her grip on her emotions is much weaker than it was. She sees me, but it seems that I barely warrant a scowl.

"Hello there!"

"I have nothing to say to you."

"'No 'thank you for overthrowing our robot overlords'?"

"They were there only because of you."

"Oh, take some responsibility for yourself. You say that you don't like aliens or technology and your decision got you more of both. If you were a better person this would be time for self-reflection." Her jaw tightens, but she doesn't otherwise react. "I wanted to let you know that after discussion with Lantern Coutara we won't be pressing charges, because I can't imagine-."

"'Charges'? From the one who abducted my son?"

"Yes. I've never charged someone with Perfidy before, and it might have been interesting to tick it off-."

"What?"

"Perfidy. It usually comes up when someone surrenders during a war and then tries to kill the people accepting it. You entered into a negotiation and then tried to kill the people you were negotiating with. I checked and it counts, because if people like you got away with it then no one would negotiate again. But the thing is, your crime doesn't warrant anything-."

"We were prisoners! The Eradicators-."

"Weren't there, yes. You had plenty of opportunity to warn us, and…" I narrow my eyes. "You don't actually want Lantern Yat back."

She scowls. "You know nothing."

"No… I do." I turn away from the cell. "Enjoy Daxam. Hopefully we'll never see each other again."
 
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we mostly talking about your

"talked"

"I most certainly did not. I just gave you a favourable reference!"

Taranna silently mouths 'oh' and nods her head.

"Okay." He sighs. "Paul, I appreciate what you're trying to do, but I need you to stop. Completely. Do you understand

Yeah, the next one he asks to date him may have some ritual that requires her to challenge him to a death battle.

"Weren't there, yes. You had plenty of opportunity to warn us, and…" I narrow my eyes. "You don't actually want Lantern Yat back."

She scowls. "You know nothing
Either she got the message after he went all Ryan on her, or she never wanted him back and was there for revenge.
 
Alan's head appears. "Paul, did you say something.. weird.. to Lantern Coutara?"

"
W-?" I look from him to Taranna, but she doesn't appear to know what he's talking about either. "Could you please define 'weird', because Lantern Taranna asked me the same thing."

"Apparently, you betrothed us. Now, I-."

"
I most certainly did not. I just gave you a favourable reference!"

Taranna silently mouths 'oh' and nods her head.

"Okay." He sighs. "Paul, I appreciate what you're trying to do, but I need you to stop. Completely. Do you understand?"

I nod. "Yes. I'm.. sorry for the inconvenience, whatever it is."

He sighs again, nodding. "I can handle it. Just… Not again." I nod solemnly. "Arisia's just about finished talking to the daxamites, if there's anything you want to say to 'em."

Paul, If you want to play matchmaker so bad, why not just ask the Star Sapphires for advice? You're on good terms with at least two of them, after all. Granted, some of them have a rather alien idea of what love is, but love is still their whole shtick, and they would probably know far more about romance and relationships than you.

Or maybe you could try to train yourself with a Star Sapphire ring to achieve Violet Enlightenment. Then again, either Ghia'ta or Dame Carol would be more likely to achieve it than you, because they both got more experience with the Violet light.

Come to think of it, has anyone in this universe achieved Violet Enlightenment? I don't think it would be that different from Orange Enlightenment, or anymore difficult to achieve, since Love and Desire are two sides of the same coin (made more literal if we take Desire of the Endless into account, who embodies both all of love and all of desire in the DC Universe).
 
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See, the thing Paul's doing wrong I'd trying to set Alan up with random eligible women, when the only right answer is to set hum up with Diana. She was super happy to see him fit as a fiddle again and according to Paul's own words she's a "closet straight woman." The writing has been on the wall for a looooong time.

Alternately...he needs to set Alan up with these women RIGHT in front of Wonder Woman. Get her gander up so she reflects on it.
 
27th July 2013
01:36 GMT -5


"I could push it!"
With one sentence, you know exactly who is talking, and probably about what. Got to love this story sometimes. Presumably they're working out how to finish extracting and reclaiming the Doomsday from under Texas. Without levelling hundreds of hectares of land...

I sigh, and mentally curse my colleagues for leaving me on Kara-wrangling duty. To be fair, she did destroy the lion's share of the Eradicator androids excavating what Har-Zod tells us is called the Doomsday. For some reason they didn't register her as a kryptonian, which… Given that she appears to be this universe's Power Girl appears to be because kryptonians from her universe are different enough not to match their profile… Or given what ended up happening to Power Girl, it could be because she's slightly out of tune with reality.
Or it's something else entirely. Still, until it truly becomes plot-relevant, it'll be up in the air exactly what the real story is.

Hm.

"I know you could, Kara, and-."

"Supergirl!"
I see the arguments about names are still going on.

I nod. "She could too, but it would take about five million years and that's not accounting for time dilation because she'd be flying through normal space."

"I could do it in half that!"
Well, that or let her turn out to be a Silver-age Kryptonian who can fly faster than Time itself. Seriously, a lot of the Superboy era's time-travel was Superboy going really, really fast.

"Which is still.. two and a half million years, and that's assuming that you don't eat, sleep or relieve yourself, and assuming that you get sufficient sunlight on the way."

She frowns, looking down at the Earth as she considers the issue.
I doubt she wants to be that busy. Personally, I suspect she couldn't maintain that much focus. 😏

"Oh, phooey!"

"You can be the one who pushes it through the boom tube if you want."
Gonna have to be a big Boom Tube. Last estimate I remember of it was a couple of kilometres across?

"That's not the same!"

"No, it-." In the corner of my eye I catch sight of an approaching orange speck. "It wouldn't take millions of years. Lantern Taranna." I raise my right hand in greeting. "What brings you here?"
I assume there's no need for her to serve as overwatch on the Watchtower, so...

"Sir-. Hey Kara!"

"Supergirl!"

"Huh?" Taranna looks around in confusion. "Where?"
Well, if both Karas agree, they could probably switch names. Kara Sixteen did want the 'Superwoman' title, after all.

"Not you too!" Kara turns to me. "This is totally your fault!"

"You snoozed, you lost, Superwoman." She pouts at me. "Lantern Taranna?"

"Did something.. weird.. happen with you and my mum?"
Define weird? Nearly any interaction with OL can be atypical.

Watching Kara's expression is an education on kryptonian facial muscle control. She goes from watching me with a mild frown, to a flattening of her brow when she understands the implication -that takes several seconds- to a gradual widening of her eyes and descending of her jaw in astonished horror. It's like something I'd expect on a melodramatic stage play where expressions had to be exaggerated so that the audience could see them.
But entirely typical of the Gold and earlier Silver Ages, when printing processes for comics were bad enough that insufficiently exaggerated art could be illegible

"She mistakenly thought that I was… Ah, what's the word?"

"Ah…" Lantern Taranna looks me over cautiously. "'Domitoring'?"
Vaguely latin sounding, and that leads me to domitor. Presumably equating the male head of household to a tamer of 'beasts'. Entirely fitting for their old culture. 😒

"Yes. Taking her as a concubine. I'm not, I told her that, so… No."

She doesn't look entirely convinced. "And you didn't say..? Anything else?"
I mean, would OL realise if she took something he said oddly? Until something else came up later?

"Ah, we mostly talking about your brother? Are you going somewhere with this?"

"I… Suppose not?"
Ah, Teenagers. Even if she's technically an adult now, she's still got a lot to learn about actually communicating.

We watch each other for a moment.

"Okay? Ah, anyway, Kara, as one of four kryptonians from Krypton that we have around, what do you think should happen to the Doomsday?"
If only to get the most naive possible suggestion out of the way?

"We should put it back together!"

"And then do what with it?"

"None of us know how to fly it, so I guess we just park it somewhere! Ooh, and we should study it!"
...Yes, a giant Kryptonian battleship, just parked somewhere. That'll never get stolen, no sir!

"To what end?"

"I just think it's neat!"
Because that's off-camera stuff. That won't take up any real time. And that'll let them pull some new gadget or knowledge out of their pocket someday. Ah, childish narratives.

I sigh. "I do too. It's just that it's rather extremely dangerous, and-." My ring shimmers. "Excuse me. Yes?"

Alan's head appears. "Paul, did you say something.. weird.. to Lantern Coutara?"
You too? What, is something going on?

"W-?" I look from him to Taranna, but she doesn't appear to know what he's talking about either. "Could you please define 'weird', because Lantern Taranna asked me the same thing."

"Apparently, you betrothed us. Now, I-."
Time to make a giant orange hand to facepalm with, OL, because clearly this is your own fault. Somehow. 😏

"I most certainly did not. I just gave you a favourable reference!"

Taranna silently mouths 'oh' and nods her head.
I'm guessing Coutara grabbed the wrong end of the stick and is now waving it like a battle standard.

"Okay." He sighs. "Paul, I appreciate what you're trying to do, but I need you to stop. Completely. Do you understand?"

I nod. "Yes. I'm.. sorry for the inconvenience, whatever it is."
Yeah, your matchmaking efforts may be funny, but they're also annoying. Good intentions going awry seems to be a frequent thing these days for him.

He sighs again, nodding. "I can handle it. Just… Not again." I nod solemnly. "Arisia's just about finished talking to the daxamites, if there's anything you want to say to 'em."

"
I'll be right-"
I expect he has some pointed words for Cara Yat.

Using the Ring connection as an aid to speeding his greediport acquisition? Clever.

I nod as Alan lowers his ring, and then walk towards the red-lit cell where Cara Yat is being held. I'm not sure if it's her remaining injuries or her mental state, but her grip on her emotions is much weaker than it was. She sees me, but it seems that I barely warrant a scowl.
It certainly hasn't been a good couple of days for her, certainly.

"Hello there!"

"I have nothing to say to you."
That's fair. But I'm sure this conversation has to be had anyway.

"'No 'thank you for overthrowing our robot overlords'?"

"There were there only because of you."
...Remind me, who activated the old Eradicator AI? (Actually no need, just being rhetorical.) 😏 I don't think OL was anywhere near that button press.

"Oh, take some responsibility for yourself. You say that you don't like aliens or technology and your decision got you more of both. If you were a better person this would be time for self-reflection." Her jaw tightens, but she doesn't otherwise react. "I wanted to let you know that after discussion with Lantern Coutara we won't be pressing charges, because I can't imagine-."
Since she evidently threw the first optical blast. Wonder if she'd claim 'mind control' as a defence.

"'Charges'? From the one who abducted my son?"

"Yes. I've never charged someone with Perfidy before, and it might have been interesting to tick it off-."

"What?"
So does he actually have a list of obscure crimes he keeps somewhere, or is he just funnin'?

"Perfidy. It usually comes up when someone surrenders during a war and then tries to kill the people accepting it. You entered into a negotiation and then tried to kill the people you were negotiating with. I checked and it counts, because if people like you got away with it then no one would negotiate again. But the thing is, your crime doesn't warrant anything-."
Honestly, if they'd played nice, they might have gotten a better result. Then again, they were just a distraction, it seems

"We were prisoners! The Eradicators-."

"Weren't there, yes. You had plenty of opportunity to warn us, and…" I narrow my eyes. "You don't actually want Lantern Yat back."
Honestly, I suspect they were a little surprised when he turned out to be in-system when they turned up.

She scowls. "You know nothing."

"No… I do." I turn away from the cell. "Enjoy Daxam. Hopefully we'll never see each other again."
Naturally there'll be a high chance of him seeing her again sooner or later...

Well, this feels like a beginning to the denouement of the episode. I expect Sodam's status is firmly set now as 'adopted by Coutara' after this little debacle, just to sort out the legalities. His birth parents have certainly proved their fitness... 🤔 Sorting out what to do with the 'Doomsday' is going to be tricky, since how secure can they make it before it inevitably gets yoinked by someone?
 
... Paul.... Even if she doesn't want her kid. You still kinda need to prove it.
But Laws don't allow "Lantern GAZE" as admissible evidence.

Telepath probe?
 
Given that she appears to be this universe's Power Girl appears to be because kryptonians from her universe are different enough not to match their profile… Or given what ended up happening to Power Girl, it could be because she's slightly out of tune with reality.
Well, seeing as Zoat put it up for debate…

I'm betting she's the post Anti-Monitor crisis Power Girl. the one that was Arion's granddaughter and not a kryptonian at all and instead is an atlantean. Not sure about her powers, though. They're pretty kryptonian in this story.
 
Well, seeing as Zoat put it up for debate…

I'm betting she's the post Anti-Monitor crisis Power Girl. the one that was Arion's granddaughter and not a kryptonian at all and instead is an atlantean. Not sure about her powers, though. They're pretty kryptonian in this story.
Would that Power Girl have the mental programming or personal desires to act like Superwoman?

Thanks for the update, Mr Zoat!
 
"Not you too!" Kara turns to me. "This is totally your fault!"

Watching Kara's expression is an education on Kryptonian facial muscle control. She goes from watching me with a mild frown, to a flattening of her brow when she understands the implication -that takes several seconds- to a gradual widening of her eyes and descending of her jaw in astonished horror. It's like something I'd expect on a melodramatic stage play where expressions had to be exaggerated so that the audience could see them.
I do love this episode of Super-female-child and her totally neuro-typical interactions with renowned space autist Illustres "Desires George" Paul.
 
Remove repeated phrase?
No, they're both required.
She appears to be this universe's Power Girl.
It appears to be because kryptonians are different.
I mean, I suppose it's an inelegant run on sentence, but it's alright.
I do love this episode of Super-female-child and her totally neuro-typical interactions with renowned space autist Illustres "Desires George" Paul.
Technically, capital and lower case 'k' can be correct, in that she's a member of the kryptonian species and a product of Kryptonian society. But I think the first is more correct since we're talking about biology.
 
"Which is still.. two and a half million years, and that's assuming that you don't eat, sleep or relieve yourself, and assuming that you get sufficient sunlight on the way."
What does she want to push? The daxamite ship? I thought Oh El was planning to confiscate that, but maybe he changed his mind? Or are they confiscating the Doomsday chunks the Eradicator had collected?

If I am understanding correctly that Old Superwoman wants to push an object between star systems with her flight powers, she should be able to take breaks after a while, because she would just have to accelerate the ship enough for it to reach terminal velocity, then rest while it slowly decelerates from hitting interstellar dust. I'm surprised it would take millions of years though, that makes me think I'm misunderstanding something.
"Did something.. weird.. happen with you and my mum?"

Watching Kara's expression is an education on kryptonian facial muscle control. She goes from watching me with a mild frown, to a flattening of her brow when she understands the implication -that takes several seconds- to a gradual widening of her eyes and descending of her jaw in astonished horror. It's like something I'd expect on a melodramatic stage play where expressions had to be exaggerated so that the audience could see them.
It's no wonder she reacts so badly when you stand there without saying anything for several seconds!
No, they're both required.
She appears to be this universe's Power Girl.
It appears to be because kryptonians are different.
I mean, I suppose it's an inelegant run on sentence, but it's alright.
You could make it more elegant by replacing the second 'appears to be' with 'is apparently'.
 
I appreciate that Alan finally said to the Illustres to 'knock it off' with his matchmaking shenanigans. Arsenal would kinda appreciate it, but it felt like he was trying to pair Alan with whichever female would say yes to meet him, like an enthusiastic but tone deaf friend trying to help another uncharismatic friend that is in a dry spell.

Plus, this fic already has the perfect partner for Alan in Wonder Woman, somebody just needs to point it out in-universe.
 

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