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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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BlueMangoAdea said:
I forgot the exact cosmological model here, but wasn't Big Bang everywhere? I guess Mageddon might have just eaten everything in its observable universe.
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It was, the light from the alpha event (aka the Big Bang) reached where Mageddon is, because it reached everywhere. It's just no more light has reached this location since that time, which means it's so far out that no stars are visible from there.

This doesn't really make sense but thats comics for you.
 
BlueMangoAdea said:
I forgot the exact cosmological model here, but wasn't Big Bang everywhere? I guess Mageddon might have just eaten everything in its observable universe.
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Not Necessarily In Earth-16 the DC Universe(s), given Krona mucked about with the thing.

But even leaving him aside, the Big Bang was everywhere. That doesn't give you light, at this point; that gives you the cosmic background radiation. Stars give you light, and Mageddon is far enough out that even with, presumably, stars forming at a regular rate throughout the universe*, he's still so far out that none of their light has reached him.

That's a long, long, LONG ways out.



* Remember that the DC Universe is, presumably, a statically-sized one, not an expanding one, given it's bounded by the Source Wall. Although I suppose the Source Wall itself could be getting bigger too...

(And even if we lowball the size of the DC Universe compared to our own, it is also pants-wettingly terrifying that the Source Wall, which bounds it, is completely filled with the trapped cosmic forms of the universe's worst of the worst who thought 'eh, I can take it'.)
 
BR549 said:
Not Necessarily In Earth-16 the DC Universe(s), given Krona mucked about with the thing.

But even leaving him aside, the Big Bang was everywhere. That doesn't give you light, at this point; that gives you the cosmic background radiation. Stars give you light, and Mageddon is far enough out that even with, presumably, stars forming at a regular rate throughout the universe*, he's still so far out that none of their light has reached him.

That's a long, long, LONG ways out.



* Remember that the DC Universe is, presumably, a statically-sized one, not an expanding one, given it's bounded by the Source Wall. Although I suppose the Source Wall itself could be getting bigger too...

(And even if we lowball the size of the DC Universe compared to our own, it is also pants-wettingly terrifying that the Source Wall, which bounds it, is completely filled with the trapped cosmic forms of the universe's worst of the worst who thought 'eh, I can take it'.)
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In this particular fanfic Universe 16 only has about 7 galaxies if I am remembering things right. I wonder if Paul ever mentioned the difference in size between his home universe and universe 16 to anyone.
 
Jankl said:
In this particular fanfic Universe 16 only has about 7 galaxies if I am remembering things right. I wonder if Paul ever mentioned the difference in size between his home universe and universe 16 to anyone.
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The Malthusians at least understand how much smaller their universe is compared to what it could have been.

I've got to say, the "only seven galaxies because Krona fucked it up" thing has really grown on me. Zoat, if that was your original idea, it's the best explanation I've ever seen for why exactly everyone was so mad at Krona and why what he did was such a terrible crime.
 
Steelplaza said:
I've got to say, the "only seven galaxies because Krona fucked it up" thing has really grown on me. Zoat, if that was your original idea, it's the best explanation I've ever seen for why exactly everyone was so mad at Krona and why what he did was such a terrible crime.
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It's not entirely original. It was mostly due to me misreading something from Arena, where one of the alternate Hal Jordans mentions being the only Green Lantern and being responsible for seven galaxies.
 
Mr Zoat said:
"I'd like to introduce Mageddon, the most dangerous physical object that exists in this universe."
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Mr Zoat said:
That's just what every telepath who's ever been exposed to it and everyone who's ever been infected by its spores starts screaming.
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Obviously Morrison was riffing off the word Armageddon, but the word "armageddon" itself comes from a reference to Megiddo, an ancient city inhabited as far back as the bronze age. Megiddo happened to be perfectly situated in a location along an important ancient trade route that resulted in it being-

Okay, what I'm about to say is unprovable because who could know, but that it could be true is enough.

...resulted in it being the spot where the most battles have occurred in all of human history, with the earliest we know of dating back to the 15th century BCE and the most recent happening during World War I.

I just wanted to note that because it adds to the vibe, that this fictional monster is sort of named after what just might be the most continually fought over location in human history, our own species' shrine to warfare itself. I think that's neat!
 
Mr Zoat said:
"We-" I shake my head. "-don't know."
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is this an Earth royal 'we,' or an intergalactic royal 'we?" it seems like OL should be able to draw on the knowledge of the Controllers via ring, so is he just not at this moment or do the Controllers have such limited information? kind of hard to believe they haven't studied and come to many conclusions millions of years past.
 
BartlettMagic said:
is this an Earth royal 'we,' or an intergalactic royal 'we?" it seems like OL should be able to draw on the knowledge of the Controllers via ring, so is he just not at this moment or do the Controllers have such limited information? kind of hard to believe they haven't studied and come to many conclusions millions of years past.
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Oh, they've tried studying it. The people of Wonderworld dealt with it last time it was active, but there wasn't anyone alive who could explain how it came to be. While a few Maltusians did spend some time trying to work out what was going on, most of them thought that was unwise given how infectious it appeared to be.
 
Mr Zoat said:
Oh, they've tried studying it. The people of Wonderworld dealt with it last time it was active, but there wasn't anyone alive who could explain how it came to be. While a few Maltusians did spend some time trying to work out what was going on, most of them thought that was unwise given how infectious it appeared to be.
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A rare moment where Krona did not stick his hand into the fire to see what happens.
 
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