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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Wonder if a little Anti-Life was slipped into her body?
It was foolish if them to do this with Grayven over head still.
 
Would be kind of funny if someway somehow this was all set up by Grayven. Like, he's the one that first told Sparta about the ritual and it turns out what it's ultimately going to do is send all this Titan power to Grayven.
 
Would be kind of funny if someway somehow this was all set up by Grayven. Like, he's the one that first told Sparta about the ritual and it turns out what it's ultimately going to do is send all this Titan power to Grayven.
Grayven's not exactly going to be unhappy if it works, because he uses magic and the Reach don't. But he wouldn't give Sparta something like this unless he was sure that she'd stay on-message.
 
Fleet Traction (part 16)
1st January 2013
21:30 GMT


"Five ships, damaged. Cruisers. We were already recalling our patrols."

Ring scans are not entirely reliable at long range, but Pontico doesn't appear to mind me borrowing New Chronos's sensors. New God technology being unaffected by this system's oddities. Reach cruisers, from an inner sphere fleet. Don't know if they're the ones that are fighting around Karrakan, but it seems like a reasonable guess.

"Have you had a chance to go over their combat performance against your ships yet?"

"I'm a physician. And our most capable ship masters are taking part in the ritual. Are you willing to involve yourself?"

"I assume that we shouldn't call Athyns away unless absolutely essential?"

"He is our leader. It must be him who draws Grandmother Rhea's magic into the world."

"Right. Okay. Thing is, as you're not a N.E.M.O. member world, there are certain things I can't do. On the other hand, since you're not a N.E.M.O. member-."

"I heard. We can request the assistance of the Green Lantern Corps."

"And I can get hold of them a lot faster than you can. Do you want me to contact them? They might not be able to get here immediately."

"Their ships appear to be heavily damaged."

"I agree with that assessment."

"Sparta… I prefer being a healer. I don't want to start a fight if I don't have to."

"Perfectly reasonable. Want me to go and have a chat with them while you muster your forces?"

"Yes, I would be grateful."

"Alright. I might be out of contact when I get closer to them."

"I understand. Thank you for trying."

I nod and fly towards the Reach squadron. It's been a few minutes, and destructive as the Absolute Dominion is, damaged and flanked I don't… I don't think it could have destroyed all of its attackers that quickly. And coming here… I should find out how they did that.

Alright, I'm about halfway towards them. If I'm supposed to negotiate their… What's it called when ships are held by a neutral third party? I've never heard of Reachians accepting anything like that, but them being here at all is something…

That's wreckage. Wreckage of one of the Ascendancy ships. That… If it opened a boom tube and got… Overtaken? Jumped?

If there's anyone still alive on there then I should get them off. Getting some sort of intelligence on Grayven's activities would be nice, but if I'm not taking them…

Should be close enough, now.

"Illustres to Reach fleet. Please explain your presence here."

"Illustres. Explain your presence here."

Huh. It is that guy from earlier.

"I'm here because I was invited here by the local government to assist them in a construction project. You?"

"This is a N.E.M.O. world?"

"This is a world that has authorised me -as an independent contractor- to kill all of you if we don't get a satisfactory explanation."

"We will make repairs and then leave. We-."

"N-o. You jumped a group of warships into a neutral system. To my great pleasure, that breaks your treaty with the Green Lantern Corps. You just accidentally started a war that every Green Lantern in the region has wanted since that treaty was signed. And my own superiors will be positively giddy with joy at the prospect."

"We are not invading this system."

"Yeaaaaaah, you are. Maybe you didn't mean to, but taking warships into someone else's space without an invitation is an invasion. If you want me not to inform the Green Lanterns that you've torn up the treaty, you're going to have to do better than 'our bad'."

"… What do you want?"

"Firstly, you will explain how you got here."

"We followed one of Grayven's ships through a portal."

"You didn't know where it was going?"

"Not for certain. I assumed a shipyard."

"And how exactly did you get close enough to it to do that?"

"Short-range faster than light jump as they attempted to withdraw. I believe that the ship's captain was inexperienced."

Possible. If the interdiction systems weren't working… I'm not sure how fragile a system they are on an Apokoliptian warship like the Absolute Dominion. Without me there, and with the N.E.M.O. defence platforms destroyed, they might have been able to do that.

"You appear to be somewhat damaged yourselves."

"Gravyen does not talk to his enemies. We reached his fleet ahead of our reinforcements."

"I take it that he's still fighting, then?"

"That was true when we left."

"Come on, send your sensor logs."

I wait a moment-.

Logs received.

Ah. Yes. Grayven's prow-mounted hyper blaster is a remarkable anti-capital ship weapon when it's pointing in the right direction. When it's pointing in the wrong direction and the Absolute Dominion's manoeuvring systems are damaged, it's irrelevant. And it looks like Reach dreadnoughts are capable of damaging it by themselves. I doubt that they could stop his disengaging if his boom tube generator is still working, but I also doubt very much that he'll want to disengage.

Assuming that these logs aren't doctored to heck, which is a distinct possibility.

"Alright, I've got an offer for you."

"I'm listening."

"Deactivate weapons and slave navigation to my ring. I'll take you in-system. The locals have generously offered the use of their medical facilities."

"We will not surrender to you."

"Didn't I say this isn't a N.E.M.O. system?"

"You did."

"Good news for you is that it's true. Your ships will be held until the conclusion of the war between N.E.M.O. and the Reach, at which point they will either be returned to the Reach government or to the N.E.M.O. occupation authority, whoever won. For you, the war is over."

"And if we refused?"

"Well, in that case, I-"

BOOM!
 
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I miss the boom image used early in the story.

Anyway, I don't know much about the Reach outside of this story, but from the way it's been described it's an absolutely fascinating civilization. Reach citizens are rewarded with physical goods and luxuries I believe was explained? But they are also so dogmatically loyal they will suicide themselves when appropriate as to not risk giving out Reach secrets.

Unless that wasn't them blowing up their own ship(s), and instead was a boom tube opening.
 
Yeaaaaaah, you are. Maybe you didn't mean to, but taking warships into someone else's space without an invitation is an invasion. If you want me not to inform the Green Lanterns that you've torn up the treaty, you're going to have to do better than 'our bad'."
I'm calling bullshit on this.

Because there's no way the Green Lanterns didn't include an exception for damaged vessels in need of repair. If only because there's no way the treaty would have held up for thousands of years if they didn't.
 
1st January 2013
21:30 GMT


"Five ships, damaged. Cruisers. We were already recalling our patrols."

Ring scans are not entirely reliable at long range, but Pontico doesn't appear to mind me borrowing New Chronos's sensors. New God technology being unaffected by this system's oddities. Reach cruisers, from an inner sphere fleet. Don't know if they're the ones that are fighting around Karrakan, but it seems like a reasonable guess.
Welp. Looks like the Reach know about Minosyss now. Though from the looks of it, they're running. So either they lost their pursuers, or other trouble is on the way. But first, OL gets to deal with these guys...

"Have you had a chance to go over their combat performance against your ships yet?"

"I'm a physician. And our most capable ship masters are taking part in the ritual. Are you willing to involve yourself?"
Oh, boy. This is going to be a diplomatic and political hot potato.

"I assume that we shouldn't call Athyns away unless absolutely essential?"

"He is our leader. It must be him who draws Grandmother Rhea's magic into the world."
And that's not just hyperbole. Given the way their spiritual networks are organised, only he would have the metaphysical strength to do the work...

"Right. Okay. Thing is, as you're not a N.E.M.O. member world, there are certain things I can't do. On the other hand, since you're not a N.E.M.O. member-."

"I heard. We can request the assistance of the Green Lantern Corps."
...Hopefully they won't take issue with you moving in to an already occupied system. Because they technically did roll up on the Minosyssian population and went 'Hi, we're your gods now.'

"And I can get hold of them a lot faster than you can. Do you want me to contact them? They might not be able to get here immediately."

"Their ships appear to be heavily damaged."
Hmm... Call the Space Cops now, or after you kick the ass of the Reach? Quite a conundrum.

"I agree with that assessment."

"Sparta… I prefer being a healer. I don't want to start a fight if I don't have to."
And this could turn into quite a fight. Possibly a four- or five-way battle depending on who turns up...

"Perfectly reasonable. Want me to go and have a chat with them while you muster your forces?"

"Yes, I would be grateful."
I'll bet. Kid is totally not paid enough to handle this tango.

"Alright. I might be out of contact when I get closer to them."

"I understand. Thank you for trying."
And if worst comes to worst, he can kick their asses.

I nod and fly towards the Reach squadron. It's been a few minutes, and destructive as the Absolute Dominion is, damaged and flanked I don't… I don't think it could have destroyed all of its attackers that quickly. And coming here… I should find out how they did that.

Alright, I'm about halfway towards them. If I'm supposed to negotiate their… What's it called when ships are held by a neutral third party? I've never heard of Reachians accepting anything like that, but them being here at all is something…
...Confiscation, perhaps? It's one of those things that never seems to come up in military training, I suspect.

That's wreckage. Wreckage of one of the Ascendancy ships. That… If it opened a boom tube and got… Overtaken? Jumped?

If there's anyone still alive on there then I should get them off. Getting some sort of intelligence on Grayven's activities would be nice, but if I'm not taking them…
At least that probably answers how they got here. Ascendants Boom Tube to a known location, they slip through before it closes...

Should be close enough, now.

"Illustres to Reach fleet. Please explain your presence here."
Pity you can't do the Green Lantern thing and flash a giant badge of office. But that would be a big-ass target, not an intimidation method...

"Illustres. Explain your presence here."

Huh. It is that guy from earlier.
Small world. Fella got lucky, then.

"I'm here because I was invited here by the local government to assist them in a construction project. You?"

"This is a N.E.M.O. world?"
...Put a pin in that for now. It's complicated.

"This is a world that has authorised me -as an independent contractor- to kill all of you if we don't get a satisfactory explanation."

"We will make repairs and then leave. We-."
Bud, you don't get to dictate terms here. Ask nicely, and maybe they'll let you have an asteroid or two for materials.

"N-o. You jumped a group of warships into a neutral system. To my great pleasure, that breaks your treaty with the Green Lantern Corps. You just accidentally started a war that every Green Lantern in the region has wanted since that treaty was signed. And my own superiors will be positively giddy with joy at the prospect."

"We are not invading this system."
Not nearly enough force, after all. This is more 'a platoon has blundered into neutral territory during a firefight. What do?'

"Yeaaaaaah, you are. Maybe you didn't mean to, but taking warships into someone else's space without an invitation is an invasion. If you want me not to inform the Green Lanterns that you've torn up the treaty, you're going to have to do better than 'our bad'."

"… What do you want?"
Ah, see? Now that's the attitude you should have started with. Willing or not, you are a guest here. But that's contingent on you not starting shit.

"Firstly, you will explain how you got here."

"We followed one of Grayven's ships through a portal."
Figured as much. Interesting that the Ascendant ship knew to come here, though. I doubt they spotted the funerary flotilla leaving during the fight...

"You didn't know where it was going?"

"Not for certain. I assumed a shipyard."
You took a gamble. And it didn't pay off. That's luck for you.

"And how exactly did you get close enough to it to do that?"

"Short-range faster than light jump as they attempted to withdraw. I believe that the ship's captain was inexperienced."
Nicely done, if risky, I suspect.

Possible. If the interdiction systems weren't working… I'm not sure how fragile a system they are on an Apokoliptian warship like the Absolute Dominion. Without me there, and with the N.E.M.O. defence platforms destroyed, they might have been able to do that.

"You appear to be somewhat damaged yourselves."
"Just minor damage."
"I can see right through that ship's whole hull."
"Experimental ventilation test."

"Gravyen does not talk to his enemies. We reached his fleet ahead of our re-enforcements."

"I take it that he's still fighting, then?"
Gee. guess OL tossed them a little too hard. :cool: Ah well.

"That was true when we left."

"Come on, send your sensor logs."
Now, the test. Will they play nice, or double down on their egotistical arrogance?

I wait a moment-.

Logs received.
Good. They are willing to play nice. Progress!

Ah. Yes. Grayven's prow-mounted hyper blaster is a remarkable anti-capital ship weapon when it's pointing in the right direction. When it's pointing in the wrong direction and the Absolute Dominion's manoeuvring systems are damaged, it's irrelevant. And it looks like Reach dreadnoughts are capable of damaging it by themselves. I doubt that they could stop his disengaging if his boom tube generator is still working, but I also doubt very much that he'll want to disengage.
The hit to his Godhead would be unthinkable. He committed to the assault. He will either succeed or die. And if it's the latter, things get a lot simpler.

Assuming that these logs aren't doctored to heck, which is a distinct possibility.

"Alright, I've got an offer for you."
...And now I'm suspicious of them again. Great.

"I'm listening."

"Deactivate weapons and slave navigation to my ring. I'll take you in-system. The locals have generously offered the use of their medical facilities."
Don't mind the classy bracelets they'll insist on you wearing. Just a precaution.

"We will not surrender to you."

"Didn't I say this isn't a N.E.M.O. system?"
Technically, you're surrendering to the locals. OL is just acting as their representative, since they can't get out here that quick.

"You did."

"Good news for you is that it's true. Your ships will be held until the conclusion of the war between N.E.M.O. and the Reach, at which point they will either be returned to the Reach government or to the N.E.M.O. occupation authority, whoever won. For you, the war is over."
Don't worry, their confinement facilities are surprisingly pleasant if you don't piss them off.

"And if we refused?"

"Well, in that case, I-."

BOOM!
I suppose OL could leave it to whoever's showing up. Depending on who it is.

So... Local Ascendant ships arriving, or part of Grayven's fleet fleeing Karrakan's system? I doubt the Reach ships would scuttle themselves mid-conversation. Which means this will turn into a three-way negotiation. Then four-way when the other party arrives. And OL is not the most diplomatically skilled person to handle this whole fiasco... Things might get lively.
 
Alright, I'm about halfway towards them. If I'm supposed to negotiate their… What's it called when ships are held by a neutral third party? I've never heard of Reachians accepting anything like that, but them being here at all is something…

...Confiscation, perhaps? It's one of those things that never seems to come up in military training, I suspect.

'Internment' is the word you're looking for.

...and, technically, if you're using Hague rules (which the comic writers probably would, given write what you know or can research in five minutes), the Reach ships actually wouldn't have to be immediately interned.

Convention (XIII) concerning the Rights and Duties of Neutral Powers in Naval War. The Hague, 18 October 1907.

Art. 17. In neutral ports and roadsteads belligerent war-ships may only carry out such repairs as are absolutely necessary to render them seaworthy, and may not add in any manner whatsoever to their fighting force. The local authorities of the neutral Power shall decide what repairs are necessary, and these must be carried out with the least possible delay.

The most famous-slash-publically-known case historically was the German 'pocket battleship' Admiral Graf Spee following the Battle of the River Plate, which put in at Montevideo and (thanks to the British leaning on the Uruguayan government...) was given 72 hours to repair. Its captian believed a full British fleet was waiting for him just out of Uruguayan territorial waters (thanks to the British whispering in certain ears) and, not wishing internment, sailed with a skeleton crew at the 72-hour mark and scuttled the ship at the edge of territorial waters.



So here, assuming they could smooth over their "accidentalling" the Ascendant ship that inadvertantly boom-tubed them here, they could request time to repair to spaceworthiness and then leave.

Of course, the actual governing guideline here is the forebearance of the Illustres of the Orange Lantern Corps...
 
I'm calling bullshit on this.

Because there's no way the Green Lanterns didn't include an exception for damaged vessels in need of repair. If only because there's no way the treaty would have held up for thousands of years if they didn't.
Yes, but you don't take an entire war fleet in with a damaged vessel - OL did confirm such an exception existed, but there was sufficient evidence to disprove this was the case
 
You know, I was kind of expecting them to self-destruct immediately. Someone must not be taking their Joy
"Look, I was pooping okay!? Sometimes a guy has to poop! I hit the self destruct button as fast as I could, but even if I was about to die I still needed to wipe and wash my hands!"
 
"I heard. We can request the assistance of the Green Lantern Corps."

"And I can get hold of them a lot faster than you can. Do you want me to contact them? They might not be able to get here immediately."

"Their ships appear to be heavily damaged."

"I agree with that assessment."

"Sparta… I prefer being a healer. I don't want to start a fight if I don't have to."
I don't get this. Calling Green Lanterns wouldn't be an act of war. The Green Lanterns and the Reach have a long standing peace treaty. If the Reach ships are truly here peacefully and in need of emergency repairs then calling the space cops to supervise is only prudent.

Edit: Or is the Orange Illustress purposefully taking advantage of Pontico's inexperience and ignorance of galactic politics in order to better insinuate himself into the situation and spin it to the advantage of NEMO?
 
I don't get this. Calling Green Lanterns wouldn't be an act of war. The Green Lanterns and the Reach have a long standing peace treaty. If the Reach ships are truly here peacefully and in need of emergency repairs then calling the space cops to supervise is only prudent.

Edit: Or is the Orange Illustress purposefully taking advantage of Pontico's inexperience and ignorance of galactic politics in order to better insinuate himself into the situation and spin it to the advantage of NEMO?
I believe the treaty states that they can't go to Green Lantern space without being invited first. The fleet hoped they would end up in Grayven's territory, which isn't covered by that agreement, but instead ended up in Green Lantern territory, which breaches their treaty.
 
I'm sure it's fine that the Reach guy is in system with Paul's backup body and ring. Won't cause any troubles at all.
 
I miss the boom image used early in the story.

Anyway, I don't know much about the Reach outside of this story, but from the way it's been described it's an absolutely fascinating civilization. Reach citizens are rewarded with physical goods and luxuries I believe was explained? But they are also so dogmatically loyal they will suicide themselves when appropriate as to not risk giving out Reach secrets.

Unless that wasn't them blowing up their own ship(s), and instead was a boom tube opening.

I think Zoat has been basically making stuff up as he goes along, the show certainly didn't go into details about the Reach, and I don't think the comics went into that many details either.

And considering Paul thought that Jaime was named Jamie, I don't think Zoat read the Blue Beetle comics anyway.

So you can give the credit to Zoat.
 
Meanwhile on Earth 534834 (part 6)
Earth 534834

8th February 1992
09:32 GMT -5


"…which is all completely legal."

Mr. Schultz doesn't look like he believes me. Though I only know that because I used my ring to look under his mask.

"Okay, but how does that matter to me? Not like I can sell it."

"No, it turns out that the police actually like it when career criminals earn money legitimately."

The Bar With No Name isn't actually the only bar with that name, a name which causes me to metaphorically bite my tongue whenever I hear it due to the inherent contradiction. But in both locales I know about, it serves as a joint drinking den and labour exchange for low to mid-tier supervillains. And it does breakfast, which is nice, because I skipped breakfast in my pre-wedding related… Confusion.

And none of the kitchens in the Genosha resort were open, for obvious reasons.

"Heh."

On the other side of Mr. Schultz, Mr. Myers smirks at his colleague's discombobulation. Mr. Schultz jerks his head around, trying to work out if he actually heard the now innocent-looking Mr. Myers say something that he might feel the need to remonstrate about. Best keep things polite.

"You wouldn't even need to show up in person. You designed your gauntlets yourself, didn't you?"

He jerks his head back around. "Yes."

"Well… Honestly, you could just apply for a patent and wait patiently. Once you've got the patent, anyone can use it if they pay you a percentage. You don't need any further investment so you don't need to negotiate up front investment. On the other hand, if you want me to show your designs to people I know who might be interested, I can do that."

"I don't know. This sounds suspicious."

"Shocker, if I was doing something suspicious, I'd just scan the gauntlets you're wearing now and replicate them myself. I'm suggesting this because I… Think that your talents are wasted in supervillainy when you could make more money legitimately."

"I don't think that's… Plausible."

"Nah, mate." Mr. Myers nudges him with his elbow. "You can do it. I believe in-"

The door bangs open-

"Two steaks, raw and bloody!"

"-you."

-and a man in an orange leotard storms in and doesn't get laughed out of the place, because he would quite cheerfully kill all of them. Most of the criminals here aren't murderers. To be fair, I'm not sure how many of the people he's killed were murder-victims, in the sense that it's not a crime if the government does it.

The barman fishes a plate out from the back shelf and puts it on the bar in front of Mr. Creed Senior. Then he opens a grease-proof paper package and uses metal tongs to move the fresh steaks onto his plate.

Mr. Creed doesn't bother with utensils, and I'm not sure how much of that is an act.

I take out a card with my contact details on it and slide it over to Mr. Schultz. "Give me a call if you're interested, alright?"

He just shrugs, but takes the card and slides it into one of his costume's pockets. I swallow the last of my bacon, put my knife and fork in the at-rest position, pick up my briefcase and walk-. I ignore the frantic head-shaking of Mr. Myers and walk over to the stool next to Mr. Creed.

"Mister Creed."

He stops… 'Eating'.

"You don't smell of anything. No heartbeat. I don't like robots." He turns his face towards me, blood and meat juice covering his mouth and chin. "And it's Sabretooth."

I nod politely. "I apologise. Sabretooth. And I'm not a robot; my force field prevents scent and sound escaping."

He turns his face back to his meal, opting to watch me from the corner of his eye.

"What d'ya-" He bites a chunk out of the meat and I hear bone crunch. "-want?"

"I want to-" I lift up my briefcase and put it on the counter. "-give you ten thousand dollars in non-sequential bills."

"Oh yeah? Who and when?"

"What?"

He smiles. "Oh yeah. 'What?' Like you just wandered up to me with no idea? Just stick the dossier on the bar and get lost."

"I'm not trying to hire you as a hitman. It would be far easier for me to just kill them myself. This is an anti-invitation."

"What?"

"I want you to not be in a certain place at a certain time, and I'm offering you ten thousand dollars to agree. You can be literally anywhere else in the world, just not there."

"Did Wolverine put you up to this?"

"No. But I know that you hate him, and might decide to turn up to try and get the drop on him while he's distracted. Thus…"

I tap the case with my right forefinger.

"What's the occasion?"

"My wedding."

"Hah! You're one of the X-Brats?!"

"No, no x-gene. I'm just a student. So? How about it?"

He chomps down the last of that steak, and then turns fully around to face me.

"And what happens if I say 'no'?"

I take a sharpened iron oval four inches long out of subspace. "Then I shoot you."

"Suuure."

I wiggle it towards his right eye.

"Right through the socket of your right eye. Where there's no adamantium protecting you. It will then go through your brain to the back of your skull, where it will rebound off the adamantium plating and go back through your brain at a new angle. And because adamantium doesn't really bend, it'll keep doing that until your brain is reduced to mush and dribbles out of your empty eye socket. Now, I don't know that you couldn't regenerate from that, but I'm pretty sure that it would completely destroy your short and long term memory. You would have to relearn how to speak. How to control your bowels and bladder."

"And how exactly are you going to do that?"

Ring? Railgun.

The barrel forms over my left shoulder, and keeps forming. I reach up and slide the oval into the end of the barrel and there's a quiet hum as the magnetic field draws it in.

Mr. Creed's eyes fix on the end of the barrel as a cluster of supervillains behind me move out of the way of the now six metre long barrel.

"To be fair, if I hit bone with a gun this big, it would probably liquefy your flesh with the shockwaves alone."

I smile.

"So how about you just take the cash?"
 
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, it turns out that the police actually like it when career criminals earn money legitimately.

Add " at the end.

But in both locales I know about, it serves as a join drinking den and labour

"as a joint"

"Hah! You're one of the X-Brats?!"

"No, no X-gene. I'm just a student

But you're still technically one of them.

. Now, I don't know that you couldn't regenerate from that

"know if you could regenerate"
 
Huh.....

Creed didn't get the adamantium bonded to him in most 'verses I know, at least not at the same time Logan did.

Been a Looooong time since I saw the '92 cartoon...but I'm fairly sure that they cover the fact that Wolverine breaking out of Weapon X is what released the other members, before they could try to do the same to anyone else. There's a whole episode of with Logan and the old crew getting together to figure out things about their modified memories.

[Digs]

 
"And what happens if I say 'no'?"

I take a sharpened iron oval four inches long out of subspace. "Then I shoot you."

"Suuure."

I wiggle it towards his right eye.

...

"And how exactly are you going to do that?"

Ring? Railgun.

Looks like Paul doesn't mess around in this universe.

I don't blame him considering that Marvel universes tend to actively want to make the characters miserable.

I feel like offering someone money to not ruin your wedding has to be violating some kind of law but I can't exactly figure out which one. It's not really extortion since Sabertooth wasn't making a threat and demanding money to not follow through with it.

I wonder how Paul would be received as a Super by the public in a Marvel comic universe.

He does have the benefit that he's not a metahuman or a mutant (seriously, that line between the two is stupid) and his abilities would put him in the big leagues.

The "downsides" to him would be that he's friendly towards mutants and his powers are by greed (well "avarice", but most people will think "greed"). Paul would have to lean into avarice to charge his ring since there isn't a Lantern Power Battery nearby.
 
Huh.....

Creed didn't get the adamantium bonded to him in most 'verses I know, at least not at the same time Logan did.

Been a Looooong time since I saw the '92 cartoon...but I'm fairly sure that they cover the fact that Wolverine breaking out of Weapon X is what released the other members, before they could try to do the same to anyone else. There's a whole episode of with Logan and the old crew getting together to figure out things about their modified memories.

[Digs]


I know what I need to watch tomorrow.
 

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