Tanya’s Hogwarts Adventures (Youjo Senki, Harry Potter)

[veekie]

Well at least the mystery is done with on his end. So long as the confounding actually works

 

[The Unicorn]

Great chapter, and great job showing the "moral" dilemmas of an evil Dumbledore, and a realistically evil Dumbledore

I wonder if there was was a war in 1926 for Tanya to have participated in? Dumbledore seems to be assuming it was simple reincarnation and that she was a normal witch in her previous life, but if he looks into it and finds there was no war what is he going to assume? That Tanya got the year wrong? That the entire thing was an act? Something else?

 

[Imperator Pax]

need to reread the chapter before this I think, b;ut this was good

 

[Imperator Pax]

Great chapter, and great job showing the "moral" dilemmas of an evil Dumbledore, and a realistically evil Dumbledore

I wonder if there was was a war in 1926 for Tanya to have participated in? Dumbledore seems to be assuming it was simple reincarnation and that she was a normal witch in her previous life, but if he looks into it and finds there was no war what is he going to assume? That Tanya got the year wrong? That the entire thing was an act? Something else?

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The Rif war was ongoing in 1926 and fighting in the Russian Civil Wars would exist until 1928, the warlord years in China are still ongoing even after Chiang 'unifies' the republic, Latin America and Mexico are both having stuff and things going on

 

[Phylonemios]

Lmao, it just missed that she was commanding a Mage Company ! Would have been fun if he discover the discrepancy in her history and the history of the world, do a deep-dive and learn about her struggles and to not fuck with her. Just give her slack and keep an eye on her.

Thank you for writing !

 

[The Unicorn]

The Rif war was ongoing in 1926 and fighting in the Russian Civil Wars would exist until 1928, the warlord years in China are still ongoing even after Chiang 'unifies' the republic, Latin America and Mexico are both having stuff and things going on

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I misspoke - I wonder if there was a war with Trench warfare and either aircraft or magical aerial attacks for Tanya to have participated in 1926. Not sure about the Rif war or the Latin America conflicts, but neither the Russian civil war or china's wars at the time involved trench warfare.

 

[Doomsought]

Albus' moral dilemma, written… actually, really well!

This is the ideal "Greater Good" Dumbledore, when not intentionally being a parody.

Hopefully having a clear explanation will trigger Tanya's rational complex so she calms down when she inevitably goes into panic mode about having her mind messed with. Don't remember but with the whole Being X thing, it may be a hot topic button.

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Yeah, with all of the mystery and danger Tanya presents, from a purely pragmatic position it could be argued he did the right thing. At the same time there are many principles that woudl condemn him for it. This is an actual example of a man making a hard decision.

 

[Yoshtar]

I misspoke - I wonder if there was a war with Trench warfare and either aircraft or magical aerial attacks for Tanya to have participated in 1926. Not sure about the Rif war or the Latin America conflicts, but neither the Russian civil war or china's wars at the time involved trench warfare.

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She mentioned the Rhine, specifically, by name IIRC.
Dumbledore's either going to conclude many-worlds theory or something *spectacularly* fucky, because there wasn't Trench warfare that brutal or horrifying around the Rhine River in Western Germany in 1926

 

[zooba]

Ah, good to get confirmation we're dealing with a Dark!Dumbledore.

Looking forward to Tanya killing him.

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This is hardly a Dark Dumbledore. This is an old man feeling nervous about history repeating itself and working up the nerve to check and see if his worries are founded or not when after the last time he had these same worries and ignored them a civil war broke out. He is absolutely in the wrong, but what he did was hardly evil. He asked a few questions, learned that his worst fears are not happening and stopped all questions regardless of how curious he might be.

She mentioned the Rhine, specifically, by name IIRC.
Dumbledore's either going to conclude many-worlds theory or something *spectacularly* fucky, because there wasn't Trench warfare that brutal or horrifying around the Rhine River in Western Germany in 1926

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He could just handwave it as being a colloquialism for the soldiers at the time.

 

[The Unicorn]

Dumbledore's either going to conclude many-worlds theory

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That seems like the least likely explanation of all his available options.

 

[veekie]

She mentioned the Rhine, specifically, by name IIRC.
Dumbledore's either going to conclude many-worlds theory or something *spectacularly* fucky, because there wasn't Trench warfare that brutal or horrifying around the Rhine River in Western Germany in 1926

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I think he would largely not care about the specifics, he finally can file her in a box, especially with verbal confirmation of her motives in Hogwarts, and if reincarnated ex-soldier is a little strange its not the type of strange he's worried about.

 

[Aigloss]

I dearly hope that Tanya remembers that. Because lets face it, her going to school, trying to be good student and kid, just to be mind whamied sounds like something Being X would do.

Also, worth noting that Dumbledore don't know about her life in Japan.

 

[Reynard69]

The thing with Dumbledore many people don't seem to understand is… he's HUMAN. He makes mistakes either short term or long term on occasion, and often for good reasons either be it because he's listening too much to one side of morality or pragmatism. But in the end all he wants is true good for people both muggle and magical.

Edit; It's why I despise evil manipulative Dumbledore in fics because it's so badly misrepresenting the character. Especially when MCs in fics that would arguably be more evil than canonical Dumbledore if this Dumbledore wasn't flanderized to hell and back

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the greatest and most persistent fanfic, is that our leaders and authorities are competent and moral. And when they aren't, it feels like a betrayal, for which they must be punished.

 

[Maleficarum]

the greatest and most persistent fanfic, is that our leaders and authorities are competent and moral. And when they aren't, it feels like a betrayal, for which they must be punished.

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What's worse is, that Dumbledore IS competent and moral. But sadly his competence is tanked both by being a character in a children's book series forcing him to not live to his potential because how else would the protagonist get into the adventures and conflicts they do, and because he's holding too many jobs and positions and if he were to abdicate them sadly the ones to fill them would be immoral.

 

[Reynard69]

What's worse is, that Dumbledore IS competent and moral. But sadly his competence is tanked both by being a character in a children's book series forcing him to not live to his potential because how else would the protagonist get into the adventures and conflicts they do, and because he's holding too many jobs and positions and if he were to abdicate them sadly the ones to fill them would be immoral.

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eeeeeh, debatable.

My view of canon dumbles, is that he's "The Folly of the Experts" in competence. That being, he's so incredible in his field, both he and everyone else have been tricked into assuming his competence in everything else, when really he's kinda a bumbling idiot, outside of his field.

As for his morality... he's very french, when everyone is thinking he should be english, an when it's shown he's not, they assign him as german.

 

[Dissimilate]

eeeeeh, debatable.

My view of canon dumbles, is that he's "The Folly of the Experts" in competence. That being, he's so incredible in his field, both he and everyone else have been tricked into assuming his competence in everything else, when really he's kinda a bumbling idiot, outside of his field.

As for his morality... he's very french, when everyone is thinking he should be english, an when it's shown he's not, they assign him as german.

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Hrmmm, Personally I have never liked the character of Dumbledore, though what I can say is that he was written by the original author as competent. Unfortunately he put his competence to use in the wrong directions. Which is also where I have trouble with his morality.

What's worse is, that Dumbledore IS competent and moral. But sadly his competence is tanked both by being a character in a children's book series forcing him to not live to his potential because how else would the protagonist get into the adventures and conflicts they do, and because he's holding too many jobs and positions and if he were to abdicate them sadly the ones to fill them would be immoral.

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He has always been a staunch "The ends justify everything to get there" as a religion. This is why he got his beau to go rogue evil for the war, to cut off the wizarding world from the muggles (because of what happened to his sister) and to crack down on any type of magic he personally saw as bad. This is why he groomed Tom Riddle to become Voldemort (to finish all those things that he couldn't get out of the war to completely remove the muggle influence that the pureblood houses wouldn't break). This is why he used Harry instead of just doing things himself. He was trying to keep up appearances but putting children's lives at risk just so he was not being seen as "overstepping his authority".

So in my opinion, he is not actively evil per se, but he is certainly not moral and frankly I wouldn't call him good either.

 

[Childe Roland]

Eh, I view Canon Dumbledore as being basically five+ caricatures standing on each others' shoulders and wrapped in a flamboyantly gay robe.

 

[Half_Baked_cat]

Would try commenting to every comment here, but I just finished doing that on SB and that wiped me out.
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Eh, I view Canon Dumbledore as being basically five+ caricatures standing on each others' shoulders and wrapped in a flamboyantly gay robe.

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It is a rather fetching gay robe. And he has several, so always rather stylish. Elton John would have been an incredibly amusing Dumbledore.