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On a Pale Horse (Umamusume/Youjo Senki)

It's not stealing if she made that money herself.
By the way is it funnier if you take the joke at face value or if take one step further and say she, The Horse, has an accounting gig to pass the time in her retirement?

Take it two steps further and she's running a successful Yen forging operation, bit ooc though.
 
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Doofenshmirtz-backstory-level shenanigans.
"As a foal, my dam didn't even attend my birth - the breeders concluded I had no future in racing and condemned me to a life of meaningless agricultural work better conducted by machines in any sane capitalist market. I escaped the farm they sent me to and lived for a year with a pack of wild tanuki earning money as an actuary and business consultant by mail until I was able to afford DNA testing that proved I was Hokuto Vega's foal and obtained racing certification.

Then I returned to the farm that I had been condemned to. Persuading the farmer of dubious financial acumen via the carrot of a handsome bribe and the stick of my highly trained tanuki commandos should he fail me, I arranged for my sale to an up and coming racing stable with proof of my lineage."
 
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"… gene sequences previously only found in elephants … uniquely high lip motility … abnormally low PH stomach acid … producing C-14 during respiration … What the hell is this 'horse?'"

The scientists trying to figure out Shirogane.
From "My Name is Zushio" Chapter 15:

"Silver is a horse, and he is NOT a horse. To be precise, he is an UMA! Unidentified Mysterious Animal!! AKA Silver the UMA!!"

"IT'S... NOT A HORSE!!!!"

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You previously wrote that the theoretical horse Shirogane stomped a bear to death—perhaps during a uma summer training camp. Could there have been a bear warning in the area that, for some reason, the camp didn't receive?
One of the hunters rushes to the director to warn of the danger in the area, and then they hear the panicked screams and see the students fleeing.
Then someone screams, "Where is Shiro?" The hunter runs over desperately hoping to save the innocent young Uma and finds her with the dead bear.

A week later, the restaurant receives a letter and a box from Shiro; she writes that the training camp was fun and that she has sent a souvenir from the camp. They open the box, and inside is a very fine bearskin rug.
So a normal day for Kawakami Princess? Because she literally does that.
"… gene sequences previously only found in elephants … uniquely high lip motility … abnormally low PH stomach acid … producing C-14 during respiration … What the hell is this 'horse?'"

The scientists trying to figure out Shirogane.
 
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She also writes that bear meat is surprisingly pungent, but prepared right, actually tastes really good.

Eating bear meat is so risky man... It's gamey as all hell, and it's probably teeming with parasites. Somehow, as I got older, bears went from Winnie the Poo to Winnie the tapeworm is hanging out of where you Poo.

Though if it's about killing bears, Shiro should trade pointers with Daring Tact.

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One funny thing is that Shirogane might end up inspiring Vodka (uma Vodka would be around 5 years old at the time) to run for some of the Classic Races.

There's a cute panel in Cinderella Grey where Oguri takes a picture with a young TM Opera O, I imagine Shiro does the same for Vodka. Which makes me wonder if Vodka's idea of cool gets influenced by Shiro beyond the choice of race?

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Actually going beyond that, Shiro has another similarity to Oguri, doesn't she? She trained on a dirt track in her hometown and switched to turf when she went to Tracen. Has Hana lined up any dirt races for Shiro, or has Shiro expressed interest in running dirt races to make even more paper?
 
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Though if it's about killing bears, Shiro should trade pointers with Daring Tact.
Live footage of Daring Tact on a "fishing" trip. Shiro is the one holding the camera:


Which makes me wonder if Vodka's idea of cool gets influenced by Shiro beyond the choice of race?
She's also supposed to be Inspired by Gimlet, her Real World Counterpart's Sire.
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Also that picture just is a reminder that UmaMusume Earth Exists in an acasual atemporal dimension, Opera being a lil foal during Oguri's career and Oguri is still a teenager when Opera begins hers.
 
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Also that picture just is a reminder that UmaMusume Earth Exists in an acasual atemporal dimension, Opera being a lil foal during Oguri's career and Oguri is still a teenager when Opera begins hers.
I've seen a sttory explain that as Oguri Cap joining the student council. ...and Maruzensky is definitely 17, yes.
 
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...and Maruzensky is definitely 17, yes.
She sure doesn't look 17. Rudolf looks like she could pass for 17 especially when she's wearing the school uniform (although her racewear makes her look a lot older). Maru is in the "Adult Supervision" Club with Super Creek and Ramonu where the uniform only makes it more obvious. If anything Maru actually looks old enough to be Chiyo's mother.
 
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She sure doesn't look 17. Rudolf looks like she could pass for 17 especially when she's wearing the school uniform (although her racewear makes her look a lot older). Maru is in the "Adult Supervision" Club with Super Creek and Ramonu where the uniform only makes it more obvious. If anything Maru actually looks old enough to be Chiyo's mother.
Shut up. She's 17. And if you say any more, you'll make her cry.
 
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Shut up. She's 17. And if you say any more, you'll make her cry.
Just tell her Trainer (or whomever) is Legally required to see her as cute and not as a viable partner in any shape or form other then being employed by her and a student of theirs as long as she is underage,

Or just tell her she would be hot if she was an adult but as it is she is merely cute and headpat-able.

She sabotages her efforts to pretend to be a teenager with owning a house. And a car. Which is registered to her license. And driving from one in the other instead of living in the dorms. And has been Publicly seen going out drinking with Tazuna and Ramonu as if she's secretly employed by the Academy.
 
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Just tell her Trainer (or whomever) is Legally required to see her as cute and not as a viable partner in any shape or form other then being employed by her and a student of theirs as long as she is underage,

Or just tell her she would be hot if she was an adult but as it is she is merely cute and headpat-able.

She sabotages her efforts to pretend to be a teenager with owning a house. And a car. Which is registered to her license. And driving from one in the other instead of living in the dorms. And has been Publicly seen going out drinking with Tazuna and Ramonu as if she's secretly employed by the Academy.
Good job, you made an Uma cry. How could you.
 
Y'know, I starting to get why the other Umas are kinda scared of her.

But why? After all...

"There's nothing to fear other than the shame of failure."

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Well, that was the scene that inspired this piece, but Shiro didn't even have her racing outfit yet at this point in the story... So please imagine that she's saying this before entering the starting gates for a big G1 race instead. Also sorry Wrandm, I tried drawing the hat, but it was really fighting me with the messed up perspective, just pretend that there's an unscrupulous hat thief running around Tracen.
 
Also recall that in Season 2 of Umamusame Mejiro McQueen had that moment of hesitation in the race right before that match with Rice Shower. Umas can get surprisingly skittish and if they aren't used to Shirogane from racing her all the time or just by knowing her the people around her can easily get thrown off of their game.
 
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■ Job Experience
Supposedly Shirogane Orezeru had a job before her long career in staked racing...

She was a delivery horse!

That's right, before she was scouted, she was a delivery horse in Fujisawa.

It's said that she never missed a delivery in 3 years
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■ Fearsome Beast Pt.1
During her active years, Shirogane had a reputation for intimidating other horses

In her junior year, there were no less than 9 starting gate incidents.

According to a stablehand that took care of her,

There was very good reason for this intimidating aura

■ Fearsome Beast Pt. 2
"One night we heard the horses freaking out,

so we went to check on them...

...and we found a bear inside the enclosure.

It was dead on the ground with its skull caved in, and Shirogane was just standing next to it like nothing happened."

An illustrated comic in lunaticmonster's style is a lot of work to pull off... Maybe in a couple weeks we'll see.
Omake:
The Japanese Horse Racing Beer League​

Interviewer: "So, what inspired you to create the league?"

Trainer: "Well, it all started in 2005, when Shirogane Orzeł retired."

Interviewer: "She had quite a long career, didn't she?"

Trainer: "Extremely so. Understand, most racehorses start racing when they're two or three years old, and retire after two or three seasons. Shirogane raced for eight years. Frankly, we didn't even want to retire her; she wasn't winning, but she was still showing or placing enough to be a money-maker, and the veterinarian swore she wasn't showing any signs of long-term damage."

Interviewer: "So then why not keep racing her?"

Trainer: *shrugs* "The insurance company categorically refused to cover a racehorse over the age of 10, and none of the major leagues would allow an uninsured competitor.*"

Interviewer: "Most unfortunate. Is that why you founded your own league?"

Trainer: "Not directly. Shirogane didn't take to retirement well. At first it was fine, but as time went on, she started to get depressed. She was barely eating, barely exercising. Nothing was physically wrong with her, according to our vet, but she seemed to have no energy - which, for a mare as tireless as Shirogane, was truly disturbing."

Interviewer: "So what did you do?"

Trainer: "Shirogane's jockey guessed that she was missing the races, so he tried something radical: he put her back on the training regimen she'd been on back when she was competing. And it worked: she came out of her funk almost immediately. It took a couple months for her to gain back the weight she'd lost, but by the end of the year, she was back in racing condition. But that left us with a new problem: Shirogane had always been very smart. Eventually she'd figure out that we weren't training her for anything, and then we'd be back to square one."

Interviewer: "Thus the beer league?"

Trainer: "Effectively, yes. I called up some of the other racing stables and made arrangements for some other retired horses - Still in Love and Haru Urara being the most famous - to meet up for a friendly race. Originally it was just going to be a private event, but the JRA caught wind of it and, since it was the off-season, offered to let us use the Hanshin Racecourse and make it an official no-prize demonstration race. It ended up being such a success that we founded the beer league to keep doing it, with that race retroactively becoming the new league's first event. Besides - we needed more races to keep Shirogane happy."

Interviewer: "And that explains some of the beer league's idiosyncratic rules, doesn't it?"

Trainer: "It's hard to overstate how much Shirogane's needs influenced the structure of the league. We were concerned that, if there were significant prizes, it would turn into just another standard racing league, just with older horses, thus pushing out anyone who, whether for reasons of health or money, couldn't maintain the sort of training schedule expected of an active career racehorse. (Admittedly, Shirogane was maintaining exactly such a schedule, but given she was over 13 years old by then, she was hardly dominating the event.) On the other hand, participating in a race is not cheap, so having no prizes would effectively exclude anyone but the larger stables or those with wealthy private backers. And on the third hand, Shirogane performed better when there was a clear reward for success. So the rule became that every participant got an equal share of the prize pool, except the 3rd-, 2nd-, and 1st-place finishers who got two, three, and four shares respectively, and we fiddled with the overall prize pool until each share was more or less enough to cover a given racer's costs. We also forbade on-track betting, and prohibited trainers and jockeys from betting on themselves to win, in order to limit the financial stakes. There are other things, too: we select our courses and race lengths to minimize the strain on the horses, and our rules on shoving and blocking are even more strict than the rest of Japan."

Interviewer: "Amazing. And all in the memory of Shirogane Orzeł?"

Trainer: "Memory?"

Interviewer: "Wait, are you saying Shirogane is still around?"

Trainer: "I'm saying she's standing right behind you."

Shirogane: *snorts*

Interviewer: "GAHHH!"

Trainer: "Ha! That one never gets old. Here, have a carrot, Shirogane. I'll figure out how you're so quiet one of these days."


* I have no idea if racehorses actually have insurance, let alone if they'd be barred from competing without it, but it seemed like a plausible reason to force a horse into retirement.
These actually remind me of a Webcomic Series on Pixiv that the UmaMusume Reddit has been Translating. The Author taking Interviews from zines and making UmaMusume adaptations with a Citation on virtually every Page of where the Text actually came from. The one time s/he didn't do that was Haru Durarara. That one had the last Page literally be a representative of the Audience shouting at her/him about them only for her/him to point out the Primary Source? The Author themself. S/he interviewed the actual jockey for the Story. S/he's now part of the list of viable Primary Sources as much as those zines are. A Story directly from the horse's mouth.

Although I can't remember the Name of the Webcomic. You probably could find it by Googling "UmaMusume Facts Webcomic" or something like that.

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Here's one for Oguri Cap:


Lunaticmonster, that's the Name of the Author! Also the Pixiv ID on the comic!
 
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These actually remind me of a Webcomic Series on Pixiv that the UmaMusume Reddit has been Translating. The Author taking Interviews from zines and making UmaMusume adaptations with a Citation on virtually every Page of where the Text actually came from. The one time she didn't do that was Haru Durarara. That one had the last Page literally be a representative of the Audience shouting at her about them only for her to point out the Primary Source? Her. She interviewed the actual jockey for the Story. She's now part of the list of viable Primary Sources as much as those zines are.

Although I can't remember the Name of the Webcomic. You probably could find it by Googling "UmaMusume Facts Webcomic" or something like that.

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Here's one for Oguri Cap:


Lunaticmonster, that's the Name of the Author!


Yup, that's the one. I tried my hand at his style, but the charm of it isn't so easy to mimic. To be fair he has been making these comics since 2009, though back then it was for Kancolle.
 
You have barely left the foal age a young an impressionable Uma in her first race, with all the hopes to make it big, your uniform is a happy half-sports half-maid getup, you feel hopeful and giddy, once you get to to race gates see the Uma next to you, its somehow feels like you know her, she reminds you of something The Smoll Death.

Her uniform looks and feels like a real warrior´s gear, armored gauntlets a sword, the leather boots in that uniform doesn't look very comfortable to race, and yet somehow she makes it look good... more than good intimidating, she still a little too still, the only movements of this small Pale Uma is her ears they move from side to side and then back.

They have cute little wings on them... but the ears are mostly pointing back, is she mad... her red eyes withe hair, and pale skin kinda remind you of something primal... A Pale Rider...a Pale Horse.

And for some reason you feel even more conscious of yourself, more stressed out, almost hyperventilating... you start feeling cold sweat and somehow you notice the smell of fear in the Umas close to her.

There's something about the Pale one next to you makes you feel like you're being tested, and making it might be really important for your racing future, and in a choked breath you realize who's on the gate next to you.

There's is a predator next to you this isn´t just a race this is your own test of resolve, you either pass The Silver Standard and meet your mettle, or become part of the mob.

The Goddesses are testing you, if you manage to withstand the fear, the nerves, the anxiety, you will be changed, the more you think about it the more electrified you feel the air around you.

And in a sudden realization you just know, once the race starts you will give it you all, your adrenaline spikes, you just know, run to beat her or break trying.

It ended a little more pretentious than intended, not sure about the last part.
 
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Well at least Shiro's Uma daughter will know that her mom supports her sporting career.
Shirogane's progeny notably perform better if she's present at the race. This might get her owner banned from bringing her.

Really the only issue is whether Shirogane is conceived naturally or not, as this is the only thing that would disqualify Shirogane from competing.
Given the circumstances arky4444 came up with, it would be highly unlikely for her not to be naturally conceived.

A week later, the restaurant receives a letter and a box from Shiro; she writes that the training camp was fun and that she has sent a souvenir from the camp. They open the box, and inside is a very fine bearskin rug.
Shirogane would probably remember fighting the bear as the most enjoyable part of the the summer camp. She would deny this, of course.

Pedigree fraud via embryo implantation exists. I learned WAY TOO MUCH about Thoroughbred breeding shenanigans while researching for this bit.
Yeah...that sounds like something that happen with how nuts some sports competitions can become.

not-so-great farm with a history of seeking foreign studs
Looking at the stuff about Hokuto Vega, who was the last best horse the farm seemed to have produced so far:
She had her most successful racing season in 1996. She won 8 of the 10 races she competed in during the 1996 season. Her wins in 1996 included victories at the Kawasaki Kinen, the February Stakes, the Diolite Kinen, the Gunma Kinen, the Grade-1 Teio Sho, the Grade-1 Mile Championship Nambu Hai and the Urawa Kinen.[3] In November, she attempted to repeat her win in the Queen Elizabeth II Cup, with the race newly being open to fillies and mares of all ages 3 and over, but came up short behind three younger mares, with the first place being Dance Partner. At the end of the year, she was awarded the JRA Award for Best Dirt Horse.

Hokuto Vega's 8 year old season in 1997 started off strong. She repeated her win in the Kawasaki Kinen on February 5,[3][4] becoming the only filly or mare to win the race twice. A couple months later, Hokuto Vega was invited to the second running of the Dubai World Cup, which was scheduled to be her retirement race. She broke well from the gates and settled in the back of the pack, but rounding the corner into the final straight, she suddenly fell, colliding with Bijou d'Inde. She had a poor prognosis, and was euthanized shortly after as a result.[5] Due to quarantine regulations, her body was never repatriated to Japan. As she died before she could become a broodmare, she produced no foals. Shortly after her death, Kawasaki Racecourse established the Sparking Lady Cup, also called the Hokuto Vega Memorial in her honor, which is run over a 1600 meter dirt track.
The farm also lost one of their more promising broodmares around that time due to miscarriage, so it was year of disaster.

This could be an in universe explanation for them pushing the horse Shirogane into racing despite her small size and lackluster speed, since they were desperate for anything to go right.

Hokuto Venus being a mixed dirt/turf runner fits with Shirogane being decent on both as well, and Hokuto Vega winning the Kawasaki Kinen twice sort of makes Steady Distance being Shiro's friend there creates a nod to that.

That would be perfect. Her trainers actually keep some money in a 'secured' display case near Shirogane's stall where she can see it because it keeps her calm.
They realized that this horse seemed to understand that the farm wasn't doing great when she was born, and that winning races made money, so they had to refurbish the stables before she retired, otherwise she would get agitated.

Which makes me wonder if Vodka's idea of cool gets influenced by Shiro beyond the choice of race?
Vodka wearing a trenchcoat jacket instead of a biker jacket?

as Hana lined up any dirt races for Shiro, or has Shiro expressed interest in running dirt races to make even more paper?
Shiro has an interest in running against Steady Distance in an official race at some point, and Steady is dirt racer. Kawasaki is also the race course for her home prefecture, so there's some more local desire for a sort of local hero to run there.

I think this might be your best depiction yet, since it really highlights the relaxed menace Shirogane exudes. Her body language is chill, but that side eye could be viewed as vaguely threatening.

Given the date, is this supposed to be Shirogane before the Kikuka Sho? Somewhat spoilers, but this expression would fit her mindset leading up to the Oka Sho better.

So please imagine that she's saying this before entering the starting gates for a big G1 race instead
Shirogane before the Oka Sho, sticking out like a sore thumb in a gate full of umadol getups.

"That's a cool outfit, but it's way to serious and drab! An umadol is supposed to inspire and bring joy to people!"
"Many of you will be crying when this is over. If you are inspiring joy in anyone doing this, it's in those degenerates who love watching others get torn down and fail."

That could kinda be part of alt-universe umamusume Shirogane's schtick, where she's one of the only umas who will directly address some of the unhealthy aspects of horse racing or idol culture.

Also sorry Wrandm, I tried drawing the hat, but it was really fighting me with the messed up perspective, just pretend that there's an unscrupulous hat thief running around Tracen.
One of her opponents is trying to haze her, it's kind of backfiring.
 
Vodka wearing a trenchcoat jacket instead of a biker jacket?

Wait, there's an obvious answer here: she has a hat! 🪖

"Miss Shirogane!"

"Oh, if it isn't Vodka?"

"Look, I also have a hat now!"

"I can see that... Though perhaps I might recommend a helmet instead? Riding a motorcycle can get dangerous."

"Hrm... But you can't see my face, it doesn't feel as cool..."

"Well, in that case, I have a few recommendations. Perhaps we can go shopping together?"

"...!"

Eureka! I got an idea! This could be useful for Vodka's training!

Gained 4 hint level(s) for Head-On.
Gained 1 hint level(s) for Flustered Late Surgers.
Friendship with Shirogane went up by 10.

I think this might be your best depiction yet, since it really highlights the relaxed menace Shirogane exudes. Her body language is chill, but that side eye could be viewed as vaguely threatening.

I'm glad that the pose gives off the almost languid intimidation that Shiro has, she's basically living out her retirement at this point, but she can give these young bucks a run for their money if they really want to try her. It's good to get the blood pumping now and again.

The side eye expression was from this bit in chapter 15:

Shirogane opened her eyes and flicked her gaze towards the source of the noise, spotting the sandy haired racer, who flinched slightly, before trying to cover for it with more bravado.

Gave me the idea for another omake actually, where the activity for guts training is just a staring contest with Shirogane.

Somewhat spoilers, but this expression would fit her mindset leading up to the Oka Sho better.

Also... Oof... If she were a real horse, Shirogane would definitely become the mare in charge of any group on the farm she was put with, even if unintentionally. Those poor girls...

Shirogane's progeny notably perform better if she's present at the race. This might get her owner banned from bringing her.

"I noticed you were feeling nervous, so I brought this evil and intimidating horse to stare at you!"
 
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