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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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Mr Zoat said:
My parents were the first part of my family to live in this part of the country. My father's family come from Ipswich and my mother's family live in Gloucestershire.
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Well, I meant 'your family' as in the particular combination of your mother, father and you and your siblings, living where you did. If one of your grandparents dies before fathering one of the first two, the kids would never have been born...
It's like Dr Manhattan's revelation in Watchmen: The extraordinary combination of events that lead to two particular people coming together to produce a particular offspring are incredibly rare, even if such things happen every moment of every day.
 
Mr Zoat said:
No. The only jewish hero I can immediately call to mind is Ragman, and I think that the only jew the SI knows is Harleen.
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From the pages of Superman, and the Global Guardians, I present to you Seraph, an Israeli school-teacher gifted by the Abrahamic God with the Might of Samson (equivalent to Superman) Mantle of Elijah (invulnerability) Ring of Solomon (teleportation, wisdom) and Staff of Moses (parts water, makes localized earthquakes, turns into a 300 ft. serpent, and summons the plagues of Egypt). IIRC as God's Champion he could from time to time request miracles.

His weakness being if he sinned or broke a Nazirite Vow (no wine, no haircuts, no contact with corpses or graves) his powers would weaken or vanish depending on the severity of his offense, to be restored each Yom Kippur.

Admittedly, he hasn't appeared in the story, and this would be an awkward time to introduce him. Nobody is calling Israel's only superhero in to have a calm and rational discussion about Nazis, with a woman from the Nazi Earth. And I suspect the guy might have complicated feelings regarding the angel invasion thing as well.

Oh well, the Global Guardians haven't really been a thing here outside Dr. Mist, and with him joining the League I doubt they will be. By the same token, he might just be on the Doc's radar.

Ardy said:
He seemed like such a stand-up guy! I mean, this is the dude who killed Hitler after all.
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That's a fair point. An argument could be made that the man who slew Hitler- at the cost of his own life, no less- deserves a statue, or at least a parade.

Then again, that sounds unreasonably complicated.
 
RichardWhereat said:
You know, I can't imagine Plas not putting on a musical for her.
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Preety sure that or something like it would have been made unsarcastically. If you just replace Hitler with a good actor without the proclivities of this one, it would seem very patriotic. It only works because the Nazis tend to seem ridiculous when you think about them. The entire point of the musical in this case is that everyone in the play except Hitler is treating it super seriously, so it comes off like he's the clown and everyone is an idiot for following him. An actual Nazi German would probably think the musical was fine, but the actor for Hitler is horrible.
 
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Surprised they insisted on toughing it out after the Soviets fell and Churchill died. He barely kept Britain in the fight as it was. Maybe if they killed him sooner. If German torpedoes weren't fucking awful in the beginning of the war, they might have been able to get him when he was on the Hood. Take him out there and the British would have thrown in the towel after Dunkirk.

Also . . . If a city was going to be renamed Adolfstadt or Hitlerstadt, it'd probably have been the city of Linz.

The town where Adolf Hitler spent his youth ("Jugendstadt des Führers"), and his planned retirement home after the war. Hitler wanted to turn Linz into a "German Budapest" – a city which, in Hitler's mind, then surpassed German cities of the Danube in beauty. Linz was to be "the new metropolis of the Danube," eclipsing Vienna, a city he hated.

Linz was to expand three or four times from its then current size, with Reichswerke Hermann Göring providing jobs for the laborers relocating from Vienna. The bank of the Danube was to be built up with magnificent private homes, and a new "Hitler Centre" (Hitlerzentrum) was to be furbished with new community buildings.
 
What happened to the Caligula Club after the angel invasion?
Seeing as the atrocities and demonic shitstorms they were commiting would i be correct in assuming that the angels paid them a visit?
Will you be showing the Caligula Club in the future if they are still around?
 
Darko said:
What happened to the Caligula Club after the angel invasion?
Seeing as the atrocities and demonic shitstorms they were commiting would i be correct in assuming that the angels paid them a visit?
Will you be showing the Caligula Club in the future if they are still around?
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The building and more than a few inhabitants were incincerated. However, the angels were only searching for people involved in demonic magic, not in other kinds of immorality.
Ardy said:
He seemed like such a stand-up guy! I mean, this is the dude who killed Hitler after all.
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Not in DC, I'm afraid. That was the first Unknown Soldier.
deccan2008 said:
Actually why is OL even the one handling this? Seems like Superman should be the one most invested.
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Working his day job.
 
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You ever planning on doing a crossover with Astro City?

Wonder how OL would try to convince Infidel to use his intellect to help society?
 
Jacob Tibbs said:
When people say Ipswich i think of the town next to Innsmouth Massachusetts from lovecraft. Do any of your family have a... peculiar look?
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We know at least one of them is peculiar, I hear he's been publishing a thousand words a day for over four years.

I love this arc so much. Hopefully we'll see Earth-10 Paul somewhere during the Crisis.
 
Earth 10 Paul either doesn't exist or if he does then ha may be dead.

Also i never knew that nazi meant ignorant peasant.
I really want to see her reaction to the naizs of the modern era, who more than fulfill the description of being ignorant peasantsx3

Though joking aside i really wonder to how she would react to modern nazis?

Too bad you aren't doing a crossover with Astro City, but are any of your future storylines going to be about a diffrent comic universe, aside from Marvel i mean?
 
With her dna he should be able to find her family.
 
Did Krona -14 not perform his experiment, or at least took precautions when doing it?
I ask because if this is the case then it would explain why the Guardians of that universe went insane with power, the fact that Krona didn't damage the universe probably never had them develop precautions against them going crazy and nearly destroying the universe.

Is Koriand'r -14 a brutal and merciless dictator while her sister Komand'r is a compassionate freedom fighter, or are they both worse than the versions in your story seeing as you gave Komand'r a dose of alternate origin story and adaptational heroism, her being taken a prisoner because of the actions of her brother, not because she betrayed her people like in the comics, and lacking the acidic hatred and murderous intent toward her sister that she had in the comics?

Did Oggar -14 beat Shazam -14 and then just took the same roll as him, that being giving powers to ordinary people, but only for evil and destructive purposes?
Is Oggar the one that gave Teth Adom -14 his powers?

Is Mordru -14 a benevolent mage ruler that came to earth to study its magic only to make an enemy of the Crime Lodge, instead of being the sociopath like in the main storyline?
Are Klarion -14 and Mordu -14 Lords of Order, instead of Lords of Chaos?
Who was the Lord of Order active in universe -14 during this story, assuming there was one?

Can you give us some backstory on Vandal Savage -14 and Ras al Ghul -14 as well as the other -14 counterparts of the members of the Light like Brain, Queen Bee, Satanus, assuming you thought of something for them?
 
Darko said:
Did Krona -14 not perform his experiment, or at least took precautions when doing it?
I ask because if this is the case then it would explain why the Guardians of that universe went insane with power, the fact that Krona didn't damage the universe probably never had them develop precautions against them going crazy and nearly destroying the universe.

Is Koriand'r -14 a brutal and merciless dictator while her sister Komand'r is a compassionate freedom fighter, or are they both worse than the versions in your story seeing as you gave Komand'r a dose of alternate origin story and adaptational heroism, her being taken a prisoner because of the actions of her brother, not because she betrayed her people like in the comics, and lacking the acidic hatred and murderous intent toward her sister that she had in the comics?

Did Oggar -14 beat Shazam -14 and then just took the same roll as him, that being giving powers to ordinary people, but only for evil and destructive purposes?
Is Oggar the one that gave Teth Adom -14 his powers?

Is Mordru -14 a benevolent mage ruler that came to earth to study its magic only to make an enemy of the Crime Lodge, instead of being the sociopath like in the main storyline?
Are Klarion -14 and Mordu -14 Lords of Order, instead of Lords of Chaos?
Who was the Lord of Order active in universe -14 during this story, assuming there was one?

Can you give us some backstory on Vandal Savage -14 and Ras al Ghul -14 as well as the other -14 counterparts of the members of the Light like Brain, Queen Bee, Satanus, assuming you thought of something for them?
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'Pass' and 'no'.
 
Yeah. There's a lot of weird fucking shit with modern Nazism that would absolutely make the original Nazis question if someone was playing a prank on them.

Groups the Nazis targeted have embraced Nazism, with there being Slavic and even Jewish Nazis. There was even an incident in, like, the 80s where some Jewish Nazis exploited the right of return to cause trouble in Israel. I think there were some Brazilian Nazis who openly accepted Afro-Brazilian recruits.

They're usually the ones who deny the Holocaust the hardest, insisting that it's all a spooky conspiracy invented to keep the amazingness that is National Socialism from changing the world for the better.

Though there are some groups out there that claim the Nazis were wrong about which race was the master race, and naturally claim it's their own race. Like with the Mongolian Nazis.

And then there's all the shit in between.
 
Yeah i'm pretty sure when someone accepts the thought that the nazis may have been right about something, common sense, good sense or really any kind of sense just dies a slow and painful death.
 
I'm surprised Paul has held back from pointing out that the name "National Socialist party" is a half-misnomer.
 
Mr Zoat said:
Not in DC, I'm afraid. That was the first Unknown Soldier.
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Bucky / Winter Solider / The Other Captain America got him in Marvel.
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Hey have new gods from New Genesis, aside from Scott Free, Barda and the Forever People, ever visited earth in the past?
I ask because i was reading a fanfic that mentioned a post flashpoint demigod child of Zeus called Milan that was friends with Orion and i was wondering if any other new gods from New Genesis have come to earth in the past?

How are the Forever People doing in the paragon timeline, are they still recovering?

Will we see them in the future paragon storyline?

Is renegade Highfather aware of what the renegade is doing on earth and Vega?
 
Darko said:
Hey have new gods from New Genesis, aside from Scott Free, Barda and the Forever People, ever visited earth in the past?
I ask because i was reading a fanfic that mentioned a post flashpoint demigod child of Zeus called Milan that was friends with Orion and i was wondering if any other new gods from New Genesis have come to earth in the past?
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They've been to lots of places.
How are the Forever People doing in the paragon timeline, are they still recovering?
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They will be for a very long time. However, they are now functional.
Will we see them in the future paragon storyline?
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I have no specific plans, but maybe.
Is renegade Highfather aware of what the renegade is doing on earth and Vega?
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Not in any detail.
 
You know, we are assuming that Paul-10 is dead... which lets be fair is probably true, he would nazi the world he landed on coming.

But he would have a Power Ring... or perhaps a Reach Beetle. Either way, something of sufficient mojo that getting off Earth and to a more stable galactic polity would not be difficult, even if he did need to break in some war time vault to steal a Power Battery first. Heck, there is no reason to assume he isn't kicking it on Mars-10 with M'gann-10.
 
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