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Coronavirus COVID-19 Pandemic

MadGreenSon said:
I'm not angry. I'm not even annoyed. It's just, the vaccine is a variation on one they've been working on for most of the 21st century thus far. Your infographic was very straightforward, most of that work has been ongoing for about fifteen years.
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The tone sounded very agressive. Enough to piss me off in return.


I came very close to saying something like "You sound like a fundamentalist being questioned about why their faith is wrong."


Ok. That's more understandable. There'd still have to be corners cut, and you told me of one in your rant. So, yes, I'm less worried about it, but I still think it's not as safe as something less rushed.



A while ago, I was working in a factory, and a guy under time pressure, who'd done well for years, cut his fingers off. It made an impression on me. So, now I worry a little more about such things.
 
The thing I don't get is that your own infographic goes from 20 in Pre-Clinical to 10 in the "is it safe" phase of Clinical. That's 50%. Which means even if it was accurate, it's completely disingenuous to use the 99% failure rate as justification for safety concerns. Efficacy concerns maybe, but we know it's effective.
 
Simonbob said:
The tone sounded very agressive. Enough to piss me off in return.


I came very close to saying something like "You sound like a fundamentalist being questioned about why their faith is wrong."


Ok. That's more understandable. There'd still have to be corners cut, and you told me of one in your rant. So, yes, I'm less worried about it, but I still think it's not as safe as something less rushed.



A while ago, I was working in a factory, and a guy under time pressure, who'd done well for years, cut his fingers off. It made an impression on me. So, now I worry a little more about such things.
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I'm not too worried about it personally. Everyone I care about who's likely to die has already died. I'm too poor to get the vaccine very soon, so I'll know one way or the other before I get it and I am not relaxing vigilance until six months after I get it anyway.
 
MadGreenSon said:
I'm not too worried about it personally. Everyone I care about who's likely to die has already died. I'm too poor to get the vaccine very soon, so I'll know one way or the other before I get it and I am not relaxing vigilance until six months after I get it anyway.
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My folks are 80, so in the danger zone, but, well, Mom's gone, mentally, and Dad doesn't care. He'd rather die with his wits.


I'll wait a few years, and see what happens.
 
Aleh said:
So, some sick fuck of an antivaxxer in Wisconsin just deliberately destroyed 500+ doses of the Moderna vaccine.

Just... ugh.
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Aleh said:
The bastard has been arrested, on...

He is also even more of a bastard than I previously thought, as he attempted to hide the destruction so that people would actually get the now-ineffective injections. I shit you not.
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We have new details thanks to released court documents. He is, apparently, an avid conspiracy theorist of the "Doomsday Prepper" variety... and, of course, included antivaccine screeds in that.

Associated Press said:
A Wisconsin pharmacist convinced the world was "crashing down" told police he tried to ruin hundreds of doses of coronavirus vaccine because he believed the shots would mutate people's DNA, according to court documents released Monday.
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Fox News said:
According to an affidavit his wife filed on Dec. 30 -- the same day Brandenburg was arrested in the vaccine tampering -- he had stopped at her house on Dec. 6 and dropped off a water purifier and two 30-day supplies of food, telling her that the world was "crashing down" and she was in denial. He said the government was planning cyberattacks and was going to shut down the power grid.

She added that he was storing food in bulk along with guns in rental units and she no longer felt safe around him. A court commissioner on Monday found that Brandenburg's children were in imminent danger and temporarily prohibited them from staying with him.
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Let me add that the idea that an mRNA vaccine like this can mutate DNA is biologically implausible. It makes no sense, and, if somehow true, would utterly upend our fundamental understanding of how cells work.
 
Aleh said:
Yes. The COVID vaccines are many things, but they were very much not developed in a basement lab by a one-armed doctor named Connors.
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The "m" in mRNA is for messenger, and angels means messenger, therefore every shot contains an angel.

Fight crazy with superior crazy.​
 
Well, I had my 1st shot yesterday and felt like crap for most of today (37.6C, flu-like symptoms), better now. 2nd one in 3 weeks.
 
thomask2 said:
Because of the Covid I can't meet with my family and friends and gather together. It makes me feel really frustrated. We really love play table games, cook together, drink coffee, and watch soap operas in my parents' house. Really miss my old reality.
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Believe me, you are not the only one to think that way.
 
Well my mother was exposed because one of the teachers she works with came in fucking sick. Fuck the New York educational system, fuck it so hard. They should have been exclusively remote at elementary school level but I guess the parents can't live without their fucking glorified daycare.
 
Are you a parent? Because a lot of people actually do have to earn a living in places where you can't take children, or else starve themselves and said children.
 
OverMaster said:
Are you a parent? Because a lot of people actually do have to earn a living in places where you can't take children, or else starve themselves and said children.
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This is no excuse for endangering the lives of others. A sick teacher will potentially expose other teachers, children and parents.
 
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Doing new tasks that can be done at home is hella relaxing in this kind of time. Reading physical books, watch films I usually don't, finish my games, redecorate the house interiors, and learning more cooking recipes helped take my mind off large-scale things.
 
Antivaxxers just gathered at the entrance to a major COVID vaccination site in LA -- the center of America's currently-largest COVID outbreak -- protesting the vaccines with enough vitriol that the place had to be shut down for an hour or so... much to the frustration of the people who were waiting for the life-saving shot.

I... genuinely lack words.

Edit: Apparently, the specific trigger for the place needing to be shut down was the antivaxxers attempting to breach into the area where vaccines were actually being administered, presumably so they could harass and harangue the people actually giving the shots (and/or the people *getting* them).
 
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Aleh said:
Antivaxxers just gathered at the entrance to a major COVID vaccination site in LA -- the center of America's currently-largest COVID outbreak -- protesting the vaccines with enough vitriol that the place had to be shut down for an hour or so... much to the frustration of the people who were waiting for the life-saving shot.

I... genuinely lack words.

Edit: Apparently, the specific trigger for the place needing to be shut down was the antivaxxers attempting to breach into the area where vaccines were actually being administered, presumably so they could harass and harangue the people actually giving the shots (and/or the people *getting* them).
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It's madness.

My inner ITG wants to post that the protesters should also be given shots (of the 9mm variety), but honestly they're not in their right minds and it's uncool to execute people who are effectively insane.
 
So as of about.... ten minutes or so ago, Western Australia has gone into lockdown. Apparently there is going to be more details on the news tonight so I don't know what is going to happen yet.

My job classes me as an essential worker which I am both glad and annoyed at. :V
 
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Check out this psrson's art series called 'Frontliners'. It is a touching set of art pieces of people in medieval European plague doctors outfits as metaphorical representations for the frontliners of the doctors who try and save everyone in the wake of the terribel oandemic of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Warning: some comments had unfortunate politically charged words and sentences and one of the artworks is very much a metaphorical image for the...messy politics of USA. Do understand all these artworks were made in mid-2020.
 
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Thank you for sharing this. If we are talking about the same one when you mention "messy" politics in the USA, I think it is actually well done. To quote tv tropes, "Some anvils need to be dropped"
 
evildice said:
Either things are going well enough in NYC to open indoor dining just in time for valentine's day, or pressure from restaurant groups has worn down the officials in charge.
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NYC is still doing nearly 200 deaths per day from COVID-19, so I'll put my bet on the second one.

It is rather horrifying at how places are racing to re-opened and throw away any mask wearing recommendations, just because a vaccine now exists. Not that it has been rerolled out enough, but just flat out exists and is promised to be available Real Soon Now(tm)
 
And it's not even guaranteed it'll work against the new variants spreading everywhere.
 
litaispe said:
NYC is still doing nearly 200 deaths per day from COVID-19, so I'll put my bet on the second one.

It is rather horrifying at how places are racing to re-opened and throw away any mask wearing recommendations, just because a vaccine now exists. Not that it has been rerolled out enough, but just flat out exists and is promised to be available Real Soon Now(tm)
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It's almost like we're completely disposable as long as the stonks keep stonking.
 
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