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A New Player in the Force (SW/Lite Gamer)

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I for one am just enjoying the story. Also, given they presumedly still have his forearm, couldn't they reattach it? Luke couldn't because his hand fell into a bottomless pit. Not sure what happened to Anakin's arm.
 
Saraphima said:
I for one am just enjoying the story. Also, given they presumedly still have his forearm, couldn't they reattach it? Luke couldn't because his hand fell into a bottomless pit. Not sure what happened to Anakin's arm.
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Nah, you cant reattach a limb cut off with a saber, it vaporizes like an inch of meat, blood vessels and bone
 
1st: Drunk Ruby is best Ruby.

LandWhale172 said:
Trying to keep POV to known actors is definitely an excellent way to mitigate any confusion, at least in my opinion, so that's a good idea, but don't go too far out of your way though, it's your story, and if people have a problem with multiple POVs they can man up and skip forward, I say this in fact as someone who does exactly that at times in order to get to the action before re-reading at a later date to make sure I didn't miss anything.
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The only new to the story POV was Vhonte, and she comes from the EU. She was used for a purpose that comes much later on.
Asta, and Marod were introduced back in book 1.


Still, the point about POV shifting like that has been heard and will be, where it can be, avoided.

LandWhale172 said:
If they want a different story, they can write their own.
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I, for one, would love to see more EU-based Star Wars works.
 
LuciferBael said:
Nah, you cant reattach a limb cut off with a saber, it vaporizes like an inch of meat, blood vessels and bone
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With the level of biotech they have by being able to make full on clones? They should be able to, it'd just be a longer more involved process... which cybernetics is probably faster than... assuming no force fuckery going on.
 
ForgottenSovereign said:
With the level of biotech they have by being able to make full on clones? They should be able to, it'd just be a longer more involved process... which cybernetics is probably faster than... assuming no force fuckery going on.
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Force fucker does go on, cant use cloning cause force rejects the new tissue, and the other methods are long and expensive
 
It is crazy that EU and TCW Maul have diverged to such an extent. But yeah, this addressed my issues with the latest chapter pretty well. Looking forward to future chapters.
 
For clarification: cloning a force user is almost impossible and when it is done the clone comes with multiple problems.

the only way there is to re-attach a cut part is either via sith alchemy/spells (very dark ones) or going to the cloning lizard people, cus they are able to perfectly clone even force users from what i know (but they are not very well known at all, so doubt cam would even know of them)
 
KingNecron101 said:
It is crazy that EU and TCW Maul have diverged to such an extent.
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Not really. Filoni just ignored the lore to make his own, and then when things went bad for his OC, refused to kill her when he should've.

Lord vivec said:
the only way there is to re-attach a cut part is either via sith alchemy/spells (very dark ones) or going to the cloning lizard people, cus they are able to perfectly clone even force users from what i know (but they are not very well known at all, so doubt cam would even know of them)
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Cloning lizard people? I don't know that one, but sure my lore guys do.

As for Sith alchemy, yeah, Cam doesn't know that.
 
Meh, I didn't really have much of a problem with most of these things.... except the arm thing. Still think that sucks entirely. Saying a trope is a trope for a reason, doesn't make it any less of a trope. And the "MC loses an arm" trope is the most tropey trope that ever troped in Star Wars lol just seems incredible lame in an otherwise unique, well planned, and detailed story that takes place in a thoroughly built out world.

There were other ways to give him an injury from fighting Maul, which given the disparity in their skill makes sense. Especially given Maul's saberstaff.... I feel like that weapon lends itself more to torso stabs than limb clips. Also just makes Cam seem like more of an Anakin expy. Plus he's just lost 50% wieldability of his cool lightning powers. Either way, ships sailed, guess I'll just have to get over it..... still sucks though.
 
ClassHole said:
Plus he's just lost 50% wieldability of his cool lightning powers
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Misconception, you can still use force lightning with a mechanical limb, vader didnt because if he lost control and shorted out his shit he was pretty screwed, and it is still more risky because if you lose control the limb can be shorted out but it doesnt make it impossible
 
LuciferBael said:
Misconception, you can still use force lightning with a mechanical limb, vader didnt because if he lost control and shorted out his shit he was pretty screwed, and it is still more risky because if you lose control the limb can be shorted out but it doesnt make it impossible
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Huh, didn't know that. What about Electric Judgement? I'd kind of assume by its very nature, it would glitch out a mech limb?
 
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Force fucker does go on, cant use cloning cause force rejects the new tissue, and the other methods are long and expensive
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More meant that if the biotech is the level where making viable sentients, even if not force sensitives, from cloning works, attaching an arm and inducing new growth is much simpler by comparison.

Although I had thought the cloning issue was more full sentients instead of just cloned tissue.

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For clarification: cloning a force user is almost impossible and when it is done the clone comes with multiple problems.

the only way there is to re-attach a cut part is either via sith alchemy/spells (very dark ones) or going to the cloning lizard people, cus they are able to perfectly clone even force users from what i know (but they are not very well known at all, so doubt cam would even know of them)
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Skin, muscle, bone, blood vessel and nerve grafts already exist here and while getting back to full use would take time a fully biological recovery is possible if the arm still exists... hell inducing new bone to grow to cover a broken gap is an option some people have to be taller. Probably more complicated if it's a joint but reconstruction without cloned tissue would be possible. Probably expensive mind, but possible.
As pretty much every step required to reattach exists here and now I'd argue it's probably more a matter of expediency and potential better quality most sentients go with cybernetics. Cloned flesh if it is a problem isn't even necessary with stuff I know exists here and now... even if they typically aren't all used at once.
 
People are overreacting about all this, Your writing is great
 
Don't let the haters drag you down your story is awesome and a refreshing new take on the galaxy far far away please keep going and don't give up I love how your story is shaping up
 
I personally don't have any issues withthe chapter or story as a whole, thank you for writing and sharing!

But there is one thing I would have liked to see in the last chapter it would be a brief outside perspective of the Maul fight. Having a perspective of how insanely fast the fighters are moving to contrast with Cam's slow, controlled perspective would have helped my immersion and comprehension. I figure it'll be shown later with the helmet recording, but I world have preferred it during the fight itself.

To be fair, we do get this paragraph:
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Her breath quickened as she saw blurred red images from Shan's armour. Hers worked to slow down the images, letting her see that Shan's opponent was a red-skinned Zabrak, using a red lightsaber: as the Sith were known to do. That alone didn't confirm that the Zabrak was a Sith, but given the speed at which the battle was proceeding between it and Shan, it was clear to Vhonte that it was skilled in the Force. At least to the point of challenging Shan.
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But this didn't really convey to me the sheer speed they're fighting at, nor the large distance the fight traveled in a short time. A sentence like tips would have really helped me visualise the fight's true speed: "She watched slowed attacks, feints, and counter attacks fly for a few minutes, limbs almost blurring before her eyes, before realising the time stamp had only advanced seconds."

To be fair, I'm not a star wars fan and its been a long long time since I've seen the movies, so I may be a outlier. But I honestly didn't realize this 20k chapter only covers about 20 mins overall.
 
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But this didn't really convey to me the sheer speed they're fighting at, nor the large distance the fight traveled in a short time. A sentence like tips would have really helped me visualise the fight's true speed: "She watched slowed attacks, feints, and counter attacks fly for a few minutes, limbs almost blurring before her eyes, before realising the time stamp had only advanced seconds."
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I'll keep that in mind for later duels that Cam ends up in.
That said, the pattern of Cam fighting, shall we say logically and thinking everything through has been a common and intentional feature of Book 2.
The reason for that will become clear in Book 3 after the last system upgrade takes place.
 
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That said, the pattern of Cam fighting, shall we say logically and thinking everything through has been a common and intentional feature of Book 2.
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And I have enjoyed it as character growth/building and as a sign of how seriously he takes his goal of changing the course of destiny.

I just was trying to convey that did havee lose track of how fast paced the fight was, though you kept up the intensity amd tension admirably.
 
ForgottenSovereign said:
Skin, muscle, bone, blood vessel and nerve grafts already exist here and while getting back to full use would take time a fully biological recovery is possible if the arm still exists... hell inducing new bone to grow to cover a broken gap is an option some people have to be taller. Probably more complicated if it's a joint but reconstruction without cloned tissue would be possible. Probably expensive mind, but possible.
As pretty much every step required to reattach exists here and now I'd argue it's probably more a matter of expediency and potential better quality most sentients go with cybernetics. Cloned flesh if it is a problem isn't even necessary with stuff I know exists here and now... even if they typically aren't all used at once.
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If it was that easy to simply reattach limbs cut off by Lightsabers everyone would be doing it, the fact that in the entire history of star wars (25,000 years) no one has done that and have to either use dark sith alchemy for a new limb or metal limb proves that simply reattaching limbs that were cut by lightsabers is not possible.
 
Lord vivec said:
If it was that easy to simply reattach limbs cut off by Lightsabers everyone would be doing it, the fact that in the entire history of star wars (25,000 years) no one has done that and have to either use dark sith alchemy for a new limb or metal limb proves that simply reattaching limbs that were cut by lightsabers is not possible.
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Wasn't arguing it was easy or simple, merely possible. In fact I argued it's probably faster, easier, and with possible upgrades to go cybernetic.
 
ForgottenSovereign said:
Wasn't arguing it was easy or simple, merely possible. In fact I argued it's probably faster, easier, and with possible upgrades to go cybernetic.
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Not even possible considering no one in the entire history of the sith nor jedi order ever did what u say is possible. Not even other people that lose limbs to them.
 
Lord vivec said:
Not even possible considering no one in the entire history of the sith nor jedi order ever did what u say is possible. Not even other people that lose limbs to them.
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Darth Krayt AND Darth Nihl both had organic replacements.

Also from a wiki after a lightsaber duel with Cade Skywalker:

"Immediately after Skywalker's escape, Nihl was tended to by Maladi and Wyyrlok, along with Talon and Krayt. Though the latter was not injured, Nihl and his fellow Hand were hurt extensively, and Maladi was put in charge of their healing. Since the Nagai's arm was cleanly cut, Maladi offered to have it reattached, but Krayt refused; Nihl's incompetence had failed the Sith, and Krayt felt that he was no longer worthy of his arm as a result. Instead, Nihl was to receive a Yuuzhan Vong bioform replacement for his severed limb."
 
USSExplorer said:
Never watched Rebels, nor from the clips, do I want to.
I watched Ashoka, and regretted everything about it.

That was not Thrawn. That wasn't even a discount Thrawn.
That... thing...
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You may like the Rebels version of Thrawn, But sadly he only shows up during the third season if I remember right. And only has about 1 - 1 1/2 hours time in the whole series. I don't remember exactly how he was in the books, (been quite a while) but from what I heard others saying its somewhat close to who he was in the books.
 
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As for Sith alchemy, yeah, Cam doesn't know that.
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Contrary to their idea that it is impossible to reattach, Star Wars Legacy Issue #27 "The cut is clean. If we move quickly, there should be no problem reattaching the arm." The arm in question being removed via lightsaber. Just need to do it quickly for it to be No Problem.
 
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