I thought we knew for sure that the DoA summoning would not be contested though? It says so in the last update.
A level 4 reagent costs 80 bits.
With an Edge 3 reagent and the Knock artefact, we're at 83% assuming we have Rerolls.
I want the insight into Mareinette that would come from her teaching us her other major Lore. Plus, it's not like any scraps we might get later would be wasted like they would if we got a SH scrap somewhere.
well, I'll wait for those answers before arguing more for anything. THings might change after all.
eh, I think we need bits so much (especially if we try for Biedde NOW, which is actually viable) that Mareinette bits is probably a better idea.I can agree with all of this. For Mareinette i would prefer a Heart lesson of course. Jade to scry the manuscripts. As for Fluttershy... Phrasing man, this is cultist simulator.One of the things I see people disagreeing with is the lack of a Guard action, though I'm willing to take the risk for this turn.
right on the action numbers, I don't know about Biedde.
Are we expecting to use Heart this turn? If not, I'd go scrap, and we can always get the Influence later.
It's not contested because Wrong Key use means that, as long as we succeed, we have priority. But Copper doesn't know about Wrong Key, so she'll presumably still try.
I'm leaning Edge and Knock.
eh, we MIGHT be able to afford them in theory, but... first of all, we quite literally ONLY benefit from expedition books and Heart 3 books. Anything else would be pointless, and most followers can't find better books than those.
there's a "simple" fix.
I'm willing to try with edge 3 and knock artifact, honestly. 83% is nice. though admittedly that extra 10%...
I think that's because we are using a wrong key in the summoning, and if we didn't then the possibility exists. It has been a while since the relevant posts.
The irony in the rich noble Lady not being able to afford books.
The idea of general actions is that "anypony can do it, without any drawbacks, so QM will just pick the most suited".
No, not always.
Soon. During Turn 19. You aren't losing anything by not knowing about it now, so don't worry.
Yes, exactly that. "In addition" is the term that was eluding me while I was writing all those damn descriptions.
We'll address the Mansus when Velvet goes to the Mansus. It is inevitable, so don't worry.
"Nay".
Like I said somewhere else, actions to "just make me money" were never (literally never) picked so far in the quest. So those options were slowly phased out, until they were entirely gone from the voting options for simplicity's sake.
DoA is an exception I am making because she is a known quantity, and the odds of summoning her are high enough.
You have summoned too few Risens during the entire quest for me to want to bloat voting options with them. And you do not have any dead bodies at your immediate disposal.
Wont include him in these voting phases. And I'll decide it depending how the turn goes.
Non-zero chance other characters will help.
They've been marked out, so probably not.
Then again, there's also this:
On the same post on the character sheet. Which… actually, something someone said earlier makes me think, so.
Not quite true. We could benefit by building our Library using them and not have to personally teach our followers any of the Lores. Especially as the new mechanic incentives us to build up our follower count.
At this point I'm fine with Mareinette going
You're telling me Mareinette, A GRAIL NAME, can't scam someone out of the equivalent of one monthly wage?
We have very few REAL Followers, and it's just easier and cheaper to teach them the lvl 3s and 4s personally right now.
| Desired Effect | +10 | +20 | +30 | +40 |
| CD | 60 | 80 | 110 | 150 |
Not relevant to follower's vote. Don't worry.
Wrong Keys give the summoner "priority". So even if someone else tries to summon, and get better results, you will still win. So, this summoning is effectively non-contested, because other contestants will only win if you fail entirely.
Fair on the latter part, but, ah… you seem to be misunderstanding the former. People are worrying that Selene will fail entirely. Or at least, that she's more likely than Velvet to do so. So unless you can give a guarantee that "good enough chances" means it's going to definitely succeed, they have to ask themselves if they're okay running that higher chance of Copper getting DoA.
It should be obvious, I agree, but… well. Even when a QM isn't trying to be mysterious or subtle, there's still plenty of people to whom it isn't, especially when exact words like "effectively uncontested" are used.
is this in any way different from what's in SV?
Maybe Comet can tell us where he hid the corpses from the Catastrophe!
not quite good enough, sadly. If this was next turn, she'd have potentially All-4 and I'd feel much better about it.
That can wait until we're closer to finding that outsider, or at least the turn in which we're searching for him for real.
nice!
but can she do "dream shenanigans" on cultists? You mentioned that Velvet no longer dreamed after learning the lores I think. Or was that only after getting Knock 3?
That is why I want you all to specify the level of legality you want to adhere to.
Narratively? She can do dream stuff. Mechanically, not yet. Let's dip our toes into what Selene can do one hoof at a time.
I believe it was when we basically got the forced Mansus search. Learning the Lores locked off Heartsongs, IIRC.
I keep seeing this but actually, no. Her lessons take effect at the end of the turn, and we can't do the All-4 lesson until after her lessons are done. So the soonest would be turn 21 if that last action resolves differently, or Turn 22 if not.
Turn 19: we do two lores. HOPEFULLY her third training action goes to either +5 or the third lore.
…Ah. I'm seeing the mistake you're making. You're assuming she just needs the Lores. This is incorrect.
All 5 have to be done.