Exalted 3E, West Direction

[Alphaleph]

Bugger... Well, down with Athletics and Survival in exchange for 3 Sail and 3 Sail Charms. Can grab the two with XP after my char realize that he oughta get into better shape if he have to run the ship.

Also, is IRC down again?

 

[UrsaTempest]

Bugger... Well, down with Athletics and Survival in exchange for 3 Sail and 3 Sail Charms. Can grab the two with XP after my char realize that he oughta get into better shape if he have to run the ship.

Also, is IRC down again?

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There's still DDoS attack, but it's sporadic. It shouldn't be down, if you use bot - including IRCCloud - you might get blocked.

 

[Alphaleph]

I'm using the link at the top.

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*stares at Ship Claiming Stance*
well...

ok, 3 Sails Charm to grab:
-Salty Dog Method
-Ship Claiming Stance / Shipwreck Surviving Stamina
-Ship Sleeking Technique / Perfect Reckoning Technique

Which should I grab? The left or the right?

 

[Yzarc]

-Shrugs- grab the one you like. There are no right builds in 3E unless you want to do REALLY specific things from the start.

 

[Alphaleph]

The left include stealing the ownership of the ship from Bii though.

 

[Yzarc]

The left include stealing the ownership of the ship from Bii though.

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Don't forget to use evidence disrupting technique on his char sheet too.

 

[Alphaleph]

Don't forget to use evidence disrupting technique on his char sheet too.

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idgi?

 

[Yzarc]

idgi?

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I don't remember the charm off the top of my head but it erases all evidence. I figure Bii can't point to his char sheet and say "See I totally have a Ship" and have weeping return it to him.

 

[Alphaleph]

I don't remember the charm off the top of my head but it erases all evidence. I figure Bii can't point to his char sheet and say "See I totally have a Ship" and have weeping return it to him.

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oh, because part of why I don't get it is because I can't find a charm with that name.

 

[Yzarc]

oh, because part of why I don't get it is because I can't find a charm with that name.

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how is your char coming along? Any sneak peaks?

 

[Alphaleph]

Let's see, discounting the head part of the sheet (name, caste and anima):

Spoiler: WIP sheet

Name:
Caste: Eclipse
Anima: .
Supernal Ability: Socialize
Appearance:
Concept: Disgraced Noble Conman

Attributes
Strength ••
Dexterity •••
Stamina ••

Charisma •••
Manipulation •••••
Appearance •••

Perception ••••
Intelligence •••
Wits ••••


Abilities

Caste
Bureaucracy •••
Larceny •••••
Linguistics ••
Presence •••
Socialize •••••

Favored
Integrity •••
Investigation ••••
Lore ••
Performance ••
Sail •••

Non-Favored, Non-Caste
Archery
Athletics •
Awareness •
Brawl
Craft
Dodge
Martial Arts
Medicine
Melee
Occult
Resistance
Ride
Stealth
Survival
Thrown
War

Merits
Ambidextrous
Direction Sense
Eidetic Memory
Fleet of Foot
Languages (Seatongue and High Realm) + Low Realm

Charms
Bureaucracy:
Frugal Merchant Method
Insightful Buyer Technique
Deft Official's Way
Enlightened Discourse Method

Larceny:
Seasoned Criminal Method
Spurious Presence
Flawlessly Impenetrable Disguise

Socialize:
Mastery of Small Manners
Motive Discerning Technique
Quicksilver Falcon's Eye
Shadow Over Day
Intent Tracing Stare

Sail:
Salty Dog Method
(other 2)

Intimacies

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Bonus Points

2 for Larceny to 5
2 for Socialize to 5
1 for Merit: Low Realm language
4 for INT
4 for PER
1 for investigation
1 for Bureaucracy

I'm definitely bumping Social and Larceny to 5 and grabbed Low Realm, so that's 5 bp used.
that means 10 bp to spend on attributes or charms.
I'm partial on increasing any of the Mental attributes though.

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Specialties, Intimacies and slight other details.
I'm also thinking of taking the points in Investigation so I could have 2 dots in Athletics.

 

[Yzarc]

....you have no combat ability?

you know, you can get occult, that way you can cast spells in a fight and do other things as well. There are some VERY useful spells in Sorcery that you can use as a conman.

If you take Silent Words of Dreams and Nightmares as your control spell, you can remotely convinve people to do whatever you want them to by invading their dreams.

Alternatively you can use Corrupted Words to silence people in addition to your anima power.

Demon/Elemental minions as usual make for great body guards as you don't have any combat ability. It also allows you to fake being what you are not. I mean you walk in flanked on either side, claiming to be a powerful Sorcerer, which mortal will challenge that? And you ARE a Sorceror, just not a powerful one.

Mists of Eventide allows you to mind control people that fall asleep when posioned by it if it is your control spell. It's why I picked it to help me in combat till I get some MA charms.

 

[UrsaTempest]

Yeah.

Gonna have to veto the sheet. Get at least one combat ability you're proficient at.

 

[Alphaleph]

Geh.
Well, I'm not sure which Caste/Favored ability to drop one or two then.
I'd think it up. Dinner.

 

[Yzarc]

Geh.
Well, I'm not sure which Caste/Favored ability to drop one or two then.
I'd think it up. Dinner.

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-Shrugs- you could drop lore and pick up throw. I am planning to make a lot of bombs so you could use them.

 

[Alphaleph]

-Shrugs- you could drop lore and pick up throw. I am planning to make a lot of bombs so you could use them.

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Yeah, I wanted to pick Throw a bit. I'm not dropping Lore, those academic bits might be the bits needed to dupe people.

Taking one dot from Performance and Integrity for two dots in Throw and moving things in Investigation so I also have 2 dots in Athletics.

Specialties....
Larceny (Disguise)
Socialize (Bargain?)
Bureaucracy (Forged documents)

Wait a minute....
"Charms in Supernal ability treat your essence rating as 5."
...dammit.

 

[Yzarc]

Yeah, I wanted to pick Throw a bit. I'm not dropping Lore, those academic bits might be the bits needed to dupe people.

Taking one dot from Performance and Integrity for two dots in Throw and moving things in Investigation so I also have 2 dots in Athletics.

Specialties....
Larceny (Disguise)
Socialize (Bargain?)
Bureaucracy (Forged documents)

Wait a minute....
"Charms in Supernal ability treat your essence rating as 5."
...dammit.

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??? Why would you need Lore to fool people? That is what Larceny is for. Lore is stuff like academic disciplines of history, mathematics, geography, literature, science, philosophy, and similar scholarly pursuits. having 3-5 dots in Larceny is usually more than enough to disguise yourself. Tricking people is generally Presence, Performance and Socialize + Manipulation.

Lore does not come any way near what you want. Lore is largely for mental stuff. Read the Lore charms, they will give you an idea on what Lore actually does.

Having dots in lore is more like a University Degree more than anything. For general knowldge you can easily get away with Lore 0. Just use Manipulation to lie your ass off. That is what you are normally going to do anyway.

 

[Yzarc]

Also throw 2 and unfavored with Dex 3?? You have a total of 5 dice with no charm support. Are you REALLY sure you want to go that way? Most parry or evasion is set at 4-3 range so I HIGHLY doubt you will be doing....anything to contribute in a fight.

Honestly just max out Dex, that way you have 7 dice total. Dex is the God stat anyway so you can even use it to runaway faster.

 

[Alphaleph]

??? Why would you need Lore to fool people? That is what Larceny is for. Lore is stuff like academic disciplines of history, mathematics, geography, literature, science, philosophy, and similar scholarly pursuits. having 3-5 dots in Larceny is usually more than enough to disguise yourself. Tricking people is generally Presence, Performance and Socialize + Manipulation.

Lore does not come any way near what you want. Lore is largely for mental stuff. Read the Lore charms, they will give you an idea on what Lore actually does.

Having dots in lore is more like a University Degree more than anything. For general knowldge you can easily get away with Lore 0. Just use Manipulation to lie your ass off. That is what you are normally going to do anyway.

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Fine then, shifting Lore down from Favored. Considering what to change it with.

Also throw 2 and unfavored with Dex 3?? You have a total of 5 dice with no charm support. Are you REALLY sure you want to go that way? Most parry or evasion is set at 4-3 range so I HIGHLY doubt you will be doing....anything to contribute in a fight.

Honestly just max out Dex, that way you have 7 dice total. Dex is the God stat anyway so you can even use it to runaway faster.

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That's... kinda the point of his character. If he got into a fight, then something's wrong.

Honestly? I'd rather he grow into realizing that he have to fight and learn how to rather than starting able to. Even him learning how to Sail is already a huge weirdness on his bio.

 

[Yzarc]

That's... kinda the point of his character. If he got into a fight, then something's wrong.

Honestly? I'd rather he grow into realizing that he have to fight and learn how to rather than starting able to. Even him learning how to Sail is already a huge weirdness on his bio.

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Umm....you DO realize that weeping wanted you to have some proficiency in a fight right? Problem with your char is that a stiff breeze will kill him, well not really but your char can die to the milita grade enemies and their stats are low. Also Creation is a Dangerous place. So Why wouldn't he learn to defend himself?

To clarify on my previous post, as Throw is unfavored for you, you can't use an excellency in that ability until you buy at least one charm. So you will be using a Dice pool of 5 or 7 with a stunt with no hope of using an Excellency to actually hit the guy. The average defense for most combatants is 3-4. But the actual stats are usually 4 - 2 parry/evasion range. So you will most lightly not be hitting the opponent. At all.

Just favor Throw. That way even if you have only one dot in it, you can use an excellency. So assuming Throw 1 Dex 3. Your pool is 6 with stunt. With Excellency you boost it to 10 and regain the motes with battle respiration. This way you hit things and are doing the bare minimum to get by. Assuming 50% sux and a good weapon (which my char can make).

So just favor Throw and if you absolutely have to drop it down to one dot. Though I wouldn't recommend it. This way he has the potential to get competent quickly once he realizes how dangerous creation is and can pull his weight in a fight. Especially if he arms himself with bombs my char makes.

About sail...

If sail does not fit your char just drop it, others have sail and are probably going to pick up some charms there, so feel free to drop it. See what fits your char more and pick that. I recommend athletics or Awareness. Personally? Pick awareness as it would fit your char.

Fine then, shifting Lore down from Favored. Considering what to change it with.

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Generally you can just stunt knowing stuff. Lore is not necessary for it. Lore rolls are not asked for when you are trying to trick people. Just having a single dot in lore is enough of an excuse to stunt about your char using his knowledge to trick people. You don't even need lore charms to do this. Alternatively, you are going to spend time with people who have lore 5 so that is another excuse to stunt knowledge without any dots in lore.

 

[Yzarc]

Your character is basically a pinata except when they hit you initiative comes out instead of candy and that Screws over every one else. The enemy can raise up a massive amount of Initiative from you and one shot every one else.

Look at your defenses.

Your Evasion (dex+Dodge/2) is 2 and parry (Dex+Melee-MA/2) is 2. Most common enemies throw around 6 dice and assuming 50% sux, they will hit you unless Kinglugia's char defends other you all the time.

 

[Alphaleph]

If sail does not fit your char just drop it,

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Less the char, and more the bio. He was a noble before being forced to be a conman. I got to make more changes with it.

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fuckit, scrambling the abilities dots.

 

[Yzarc]

Less the char, and more the bio. He was a noble before being forced to be a conman. I got to make more changes with it.

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fuckit, scrambling the abilities dots.

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You can take Performance for Awareness if you want. Having 2 Dots in awareness with 4 wits is more than enough to get a decent join battle pool.

Also I would recommend Reed in the Wind over Drifting Leaf Elusion as a better dodge charm. It has the perilous keyword but it only uses 2i per 1 Evasion you raise it by. Combined with an Excellency, they will not be able to hit you and with battle regen and your higher throw pool you will be able to regain the initiative back too.

Alternatively, you can completely dump dodge. you would have low defences but you now have a decent enough attack pool to gain it back. Kinglugia has a defend other build so you can get away with it so long as you get enough Initiative back each turn and using 5m on an Excellency will get it back easily.

 

[Biigoh]

No steal tanuki ship.... Lily stole it from realm mama and got Exalted doing it.

 

[Alphaleph]

Well, I grab the 'navigate safely' Charm and something else then.

 

[Yzarc]

So what is your story Alphaleph ? I know you are a conman but whats his/her background?

 

[Alphaleph]

No specific details as I'm still poking around the ability and Intimacies, but the gist of it is:
Son of a maritime noble family set for captaining his own ship as a Rite of Passage. His family fell into a rough time before that due to his family's fleet started vanishing, which is blamed on weathers and environmental hazards, although there are suspicions of people meddling due to their rivals' encroaching on their business. This lead to the family being shunned and massively in debt. The family also have to figure out alternative means of gathering money as their reputation was in tatters and they effectively cannot work on a ship.

He first worked as an Official (or Book Keeper, whatever) before finding that it's too slow to pay the enormous debt on its own he started to resort to corruption and bribery before started his scam and con career. He faked permits, got people to sponsor bogus caravans, and divert a portion of the gold to himself. He got discovered, bounced away and started again elsewhere.

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Still not exactly sure what con ended up giving him his Exaltation other than that it's one of his con that grow beyond his expectation and planning and he has to improvise.

 

[Yzarc]

No specific details as I'm still poking around the ability and Intimacies, but the gist of it is:
Son of a maritime noble family set for captaining his own ship as a Rite of Passage. His family fell into a rough time before that due to his family's fleet started vanishing, which is blamed on weathers and environmental hazards, although there are suspicions of people meddling due to their rivals' encroaching on their business. This lead to the family being shunned and massively in debt. The family also have to figure out alternative means of gathering money as their reputation was in tatters and they effectively cannot work on a ship.

He first worked as an Official (or Book Keeper, whatever) before finding that it's too slow to pay the enormous debt on its own he started to resort to corruption and bribery before started his scam and con career. He faked permits, got people to sponsor bogus caravans, and divert a portion of the gold to himself. He got discovered, bounced away and started again elsewhere.

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Still not exactly sure what con ended up giving him his Exaltation other than that it's one of his con that grow beyond his expectation and planning and he has to improvise.

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Kinda a repeat of an argument but why didn't he try to contact the local spirits to bargain with them or hire a Sorceror.Your trouble seems supernatural and hiring a sorceror to help you seems the most logical thing to do. I mean they are rare but doable and Sorcerors, even mortal ones make money hand over fist as their services are that valuable. Sure you would have to shell out a crap ton of money to get that guy to agree to help you. Alternatively, you could have flattered the local spirits and have help you in return for worship and other concessions.

 

[Alphaleph]

Combination between actual supernatural and intrigue works actually. Sure, some of them was because of supernatural, but majority of it were mortal handiwork. They just can't get enough evidence proving so.

 

[Yzarc]

We planned for a sea campaign. Ironic, because now I am living it. My whole city is flooded, one month's worth of rainfall in one day and the worst flooding in 100 years. This is after a cyclone that partially flooded the city just a week ago. Forecast is heavy rain for the next week and I am not sure if I will get continued Electricity let alone Internet access, so please excuse any long absences if it happens.

Things will probably stabilize in 2 or so weeks, I hope.