General World of Darkness Discussion Thread QQ Edition

[shadowdice]

I was reading through my copy of the transylvania chronicles for a vtm story and Wow this is railroady

Author: A gangrel with brigand servants should be able to destroy all the wagons of the party and attack them for a full round even if they succeed an alertness check and steal ALL the gold they were given to pay for making a castle, you can let the coterie shine but the brigands will be driven off by Myca Vykos's retinue arriving (which is entirely by coincidence instead of Vykos playing both sides)

Also Author: Myca Vykos will offer to fund the creation of the castle in exchange for each coterie member owing him a major boon because they will not have enough money to fulfill their duty and if they don't take this offer their sires will increase the blood bond they have. (And had a spy in the construction slowing things down which the players are not allowed to suss out)

Me: What if one of the players invested a ton in resources, or they have allies and retainers to fight off the bandits? OR ARE A TREMERE WITH ALCHEMY

Author: I am not going to consider any of these options at all

despite the years, WOD has not gotten much better about this.

The first combat scenario (a bunch of archers are brigands are attacking) is the time for a Brujah to shine. Or a Toreador with Auspex to try and snipe.

 

[Dragon Fire]

Hahaha. I haven't read that far yet but ugh, what got you to write about a Gangrel vamps as a protagonist? Not that I'm complaining mind you, I'm grateful for it. From what I've seen Hyun is like a Malkavian with all her split personas. A little fucky if you ask me. Surprised we don't even get a stat sheet page for Jubal.

Edit: Oh wait, is this a different story?

 

[shadowdice]

Hahaha. I haven't read that far yet but ugh, what got you to write about a Gangrel vamps as a protagonist? Not that I'm complaining mind you, I'm grateful for it. From what I've seen Hyun is like a Malkavian with all her split personas. A little fucky if you ask me. Surprised we don't even get a stat sheet page for Jubal.

Edit: Oh wait, is this a different story?

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I was talking about an official VTM chronicle (one of their effectively campaign books)

they are all remarkably railroady and feel more like the writer wanted to make a novel (which there are VTM books of) but was told to make it into a campaign

 

[Dragon Fire]

Oh damn, my bad man. I can't read very well y'see. I haven't finished reading your story but if the sequel game ever comes out, you ever plan to write a follow-up for your story?

 

[shadowdice]

Oh damn, my bad man. I can't read very well y'see. I haven't finished reading your story but if the sequel game ever comes out, you ever plan to write a follow-up for your story?

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when it comes to the VTMB story i am fairly divided on ever making a real sequel (first because of Gehenna, second because of the mess of a timeline V5 has)

i have played around with doing VTM stories in different areas (Chicago, Miami) and have the setting written up for New Orleans and maybe a dark ages one. though i've also considered doing a different VTMB story with less AU elements and an anarch or autarkis focus.

part of the reasons for those being that writing a non-gangrel story is something i want to do.

None of those however, are necessarily dealing with the same universe as the L.A Hound story (though with some they can have the shrug of god in the form of people going "I remember things being different, and the universe is definitely fucked up now as people are saying that Ravnos don't develop animalism now and that both Salubri and Tzimisce have Dominate of all things")

my favorite explanation for V5's weirdness and retcons is "Ravnos used CHIM to retcon the Kuei-Jin out of the universe" especially as V5 moves the Week of Nightmares to be years after it was in the original universe

 

[Dragon Fire]

What vampire clan you want to write about then? Well, up to you in the end. I'm just want to hop along the ride.

 

[shadowdice]

What vampire clan you want to write about then? Well, up to you in the end. I'm just want to hop along the ride.

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For Dark Ages, Toreador

For Modern Times. Lasombra, Brujah, and the bloodlines are all interesting and would necessitate very different stories.

 

[Dragon Fire]

Hmm, interesting. Why Dark Ages go for Toreador? An Auspex savvy Toreador with firearms would be too overpowered?
What about a True Brujah as the protagonist?

And how would you make it different? Aside from different type of vampire clans.

 

[shadowdice]

Hmm, interesting. Why Dark Ages go for Toreador? An Auspex savvy Toreador with firearms would be too overpowered?
What about a True Brujah as the protagonist?

And how would you make it different? Aside from different type of vampire clans.

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Dark ages is a time where there is a lot of magic and vampires flirting with the idea of chivalry. Both the Byzantine Empire and France are effectively run by the toreador, so a toreador knight of any sort has a lot to play with.

True brujah are not all that interesting to me outside of the power (which can be obtained by other means).

Interesting bloodlines for a modern story (to me). Chicago has a native american brujah that made his own bloodline and a discipline that messes with the Umbra which allows for interaction with both werewolves and the spirit world. Blood Brothers are an artificial bloodline made through a fusion of Tzimisce and Tremere magic for the sabbat where if the use of Dominate and torture for mindbreak indoctrination fails, creates entities that have a lot of reasons to hate the sabbat.

Blood Brothers. Either a lot of humans fleshcrafted and mindbroken while ritualistically tortured to become a hive mind (though different books disagree on that part) of super strong super durable vampires that share senses. That or Children that vicissitude is used to artificially age them to adulthood.

My miami idea involved an elder brujah that has been in torpor since before florida was taken over by the USA waking up and embracing a new child to help acclimate with both being unnerved by the situation. It would largely involve them being involved in crime with the add on of the Elder being outspoken in the fact that she hates the current Brujah for being bomb throwing anarchists that embrace whatever is popular instead of really thinking on it, while also being openly dismissive of most of the "classical" brujah as she follows Diogenes more than any of the other schools of thoughts (humans are basically animals and societal conventions are pretenses. origin of cynicism)

New Orleans is based more upon the concept of an autarkis Lasombra that rules over the city and is directly interfacing with other supernatural factions (Faeries, mages, werewolves) and trying to make a functional faction around himself to make sure the many people he thinks want to kill him can't break through.

Blood Brothers concept is two people who are not sure who they are anymore or if any of their memories are real agreeing "Fuck the sabbat" and going on a personal vendetta on all of them that they can find while they are in Los Angeles.

 

[Dragon Fire]

Whatever the case, I hope you can write one out If you like. I can't speak much cause neither books are something I ever read. I don't think my country were big on Tabletop RPGs.

We're just learning about Warhammer 40K and that's thanks to their online mobile games.

Let's hope White Wolf gets a big celeb to endorse and geeks out over the game

Toreador Knight does sound like a fun idea. The same goes to a Brujah that wants to do things differently.

 

[gereh]

Myca Vykos will offer to fund the creation of the castle

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*sees any mention of Sasha Vykos*

*tries not to to fanboy*

*fails miserably*

SQUUEAAAL

My miami idea involved an elder brujah that has been in torpor since before florida was taken over by the USA waking up and embracing a new child to help acclimate with both being unnerved by the situation. It would largely involve them being involved in crime with the add on of the Elder being outspoken in the fact that she hates the current Brujah for being bomb throwing anarchists that embrace whatever is popular instead of really thinking on it, while also being openly dismissive of most of the "classical" brujah as she follows Diogenes more than any of the other schools of thoughts (humans are basically animals and societal conventions are pretenses. origin of cynicism)

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Isn't Miami Sabbat land, unless we go V5 (fuck V5). Guess they would fit in with "human being animals" there.

 

[Dragon Fire]

*sees any mention of Sasha Vykos*

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What's her whole ordeal?

 

[gereh]

What's her whole ordeal?

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You know how every Clan has a signature character? Sasha Vykos (formerly known as Myca) is the Clan Tzimisce one.

They are basically a fuck ton of trauma in a trenchcoat. Just instead of trenchcoat it is fleshcrafted genderless body. And they are an absolute monster.

Since it would take forever to explain, because they are just so fucked up, here is a video about who they are.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9fVckd5_TE

They are also the protagonist of the Tzimisce Clan book.

 

[Dragon Fire]

I know but what's her specific charm? Beckett is a Noddist scholar. Jack is a brujah who embodies the Brujah philosophy or some shit.

What's her deal? She's a full-on evil sociopath?

 

[gereh]

What's her deal? She's a full-on evil sociopath?

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I don't think you can call her a sociopath, since a sociopath is still a human, he may be a fucked up, egoistical human, but he is still a human. I don't think you can classify Sasha Vykos as human anymore, they have become something alien.

I know but what's her specific charm?

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I'm not sure I would call it charm, because that implies something positive, Sasha Vykos is utterly fascinating, the same way you can't look away from a car crash.

As what Sasha Vykos is?
They are a prolific Noddist scholar. They are Scientist and Doctor. They are (one of) the Sabbat's spiritual leader. They are on the forefront of the war against the Antediluvian. But most of all "They are a monster".

Also while they have been appearing as female for a while I use "they" since Sasha Vykos currently has no gender.

 

[Dragon Fire]

Fantastic, Tzimisce body fuckery performing beyond my expectations. Wonderful. Perhaps we should write a Vampire Tzimisce operating in cyberpunk as a ripper doc. Fucking with the human body for personal inquiries.