I will become God-Harem King of the World! [Highschool DxD/Exalted] (CLOSED)

Pipeman · Feb 7, 2014

P_D said:
Found this:
So... What do we want to raise and how much? Linguistics by a dot, Occult as much as possible, martial arts by some, then put some time into learning a charm or two if we have time and EXP?

Only the first dot actually needs training time and the rest is very much XP dependant.
Therefor my general plan is to get the first dot in Occult, Linguistics and Martial Arts, training for Adamant Skin Technique and Irresistable Salesman Spirit and as much XP farming as possible.
If we have a surplus of XP we then buy up more Ability dots in the stuff we have the first dot in (most likely just MA at first), if we have a surplus of XP and time we get more Charms and if we only have a surplus of time we get started on Attribute training.

Eler0 · Feb 7, 2014

We have school on Saturday? What a cruel and uncaring world.

That leaves us with only 106 hours of free time.

106
-18 Linguistics
-9 Occult
-18 Martial Arts
-15 Adamant Skin Technique
-12 Irresistible Salesman Spirit
--------------------------------------------
34 hours for XP grinding

We would need 19 XP for all that and we currently have 6. Depending on how effective the XP grinding is, we may have to wait with one of those charms for later. Honestly, I think we could do without Adamant Skin Technique for now, since we already have lots of Charms to increase our soak so we shouldn't be too easy to take out.

Could we stunt XP grinding to count as training for MA. I mean, it's going out looking for troublemakers to beat up, isn't it?

John At Dawn · Feb 7, 2014

What about time spent with the Occult Club?

staplesdex2 · Feb 7, 2014

So if Issei is pretty much a wizard build as Twilight Cast, what spells can he do, make, is available, etc.? I'm not too familiar with Exalte and the extensive wiki source I know of seems broken.

P_D · Feb 7, 2014

Pipeman said:
Only the first dot actually needs training time and the rest is very much XP dependant.
Therefor my general plan is to get the first dot in Occult, Linguistics and Martial Arts, training for Adamant Skin Technique and Irresistable Salesman Spirit and as much XP farming as possible.
If we have a surplus of XP we then buy up more Ability dots in the stuff we have the first dot in (most likely just MA at first), if we have a surplus of XP and time we get more Charms and if we only have a surplus of time we get started on Attribute training.

Why MA? Wouldn't higher Occult serve us better if we can use DxD magic?

Pipeman · Feb 7, 2014

P_D said:
Why MA? Wouldn't higher Occult serve us better if we can use DxD magic?

Because, if we have XP but little time, odds are we won't have the time to learn spells, which means that we're kind of stuck with a bunch of dots in Occult but nothing to use them for.

Eler0 said:
We have school on Saturday? What a cruel and uncaring world.

That leaves us with only 106 hours of free time.

106
-18 Linguistics
-9 Occult
-18 Martial Arts
-15 Adamant Skin Technique
-12 Irresistible Salesman Spirit
--------------------------------------------
34 hours for XP grinding

We would need 19 XP for all that and we currently have 6. Depending on how effective the XP grinding is, we may have to wait with one of those charms for later. Honestly, I think we could do without Adamant Skin Technique for now, since we already have lots of Charms to increase our soak so we shouldn't be too easy to take out.

Could we stunt XP grinding to count as training for MA. I mean, it's going out looking for troublemakers to beat up, isn't it?

Eh.
We are planning to grind the fuck out of that XP, so meeting something supernatural is a real possibility and, when that happens, we might really want to be able to no-sell harder stuff.
Walking around without a Perfect Defense and rather meh combat stats make me all kinds of jumpy and getting AST quickly is way easier than making us combat capable unless we get really drowned in XP.

Eler0 · Feb 7, 2014

Pipeman said:
We are planning to grind the fuck out of that XP, so meeting something supernatural is a real possibility and, when that happens, we might really want to be able to no-sell harder stuff.
Walking around without a Perfect Defense and rather meh combat stats make me all kinds of jumpy and getting AST quickly is way easier than making us combat capable unless we get really drowned in XP.

Couldn't we use Spirit Strengthens The Skin to no-sell most attacks? I don't think anyone is going to hit us for more damage than we have motes. At that point, the PD would be more mote efficient, but we have no other combat Charms to use them on anyways.

I mean, AST is still a priority, but it ranks after PSS, because having PSS could make the difference between convincing someone of something, while AST just saves us some motes (and draws less attention because no anima banner)

overmind · Feb 7, 2014

Eler0 said:
Couldn't we use Spirit Strengthens The Skin to no-sell most attacks? I don't think anyone is going to hit us for more damage than we have motes. At that point, the PD would be more mote efficient, but we have no other combat Charms to use them on anyways.

I mean, AST is still a priority, but it ranks after PSS, because having PSS could make the difference between convincing someone of something, while AST just saves us some motes (and draws less attention because no anima banner)

Have you included the time where we spend time learning the magic in the occult club?

Eler0 · Feb 7, 2014

overmind said:
Have you included the time where we spend time learning the magic in the occult club?

Yes. It's how I got the 106 hours of free time
It's
7*24-(7.5*6+3*3+2*4)=106
3 times 3 hours.

overmind · Feb 7, 2014

Eler0 said:
Yes. It's how I got the 106 hours of free time
It's
7*24-(7.5*6+3*3+2*4)=106
3 times 3 hours.

Alright then.

I'm voting for youe plan for now, since it seems sensible:

[X] Eler0

Smuthunter · Feb 7, 2014

Eler0 said:
Couldn't we use Spirit Strengthens The Skin to no-sell most attacks? I don't think anyone is going to hit us for more damage than we have motes. At that point, the PD would be more mote efficient, but we have no other combat Charms to use them on anyways.

It's not just a matter of mote efficiency. SSTS is invoked after an attack hits but before damage is actually rolled, so if we underestimate how hard we're going to get hit then damage will get through anyways. If we have AST then we have a reliable "panic button" charm that works regardless of how powerful the enemy's attack is. Even if it's a huge mote sink, the shock of having a powerful attack just bounce off our skin will provide opportunities to either counterattack or beat a retreat.

Nervaqus987 · Feb 7, 2014

Pipeman said:
That aside, how do we have to learn Martial Arts?
Can we ask Bright for intructions or do we have to find some place that gives courses?

Do you mean "How do we raise our Martial Arts rating" or "How do we learn Martial Arts Charms"?

For both of those, Bright is going to be all but completely useless. She's got Martial Arts 1.

To start learning MA, we could just track down a teacher or else go out into the woods and wrestle bears or something. That'll teach us Martial Arts. To get Martial Arts Styles, like Crystal Chameleon or Celestial Monkey, we'd have to recreate them ourselves from Bright's memory or something. That will be a pain in the ass, though.

For Fist of the Daystar, though, since it's our Native Hero Style, we can learn it like we would any other Charm, so we don't have to endure the agony of recreating an entire Martial Art Style.

Unfortunately, we can get Sidereal Martial Arts without a Sidereal to teach us.

Smuthunter · Feb 7, 2014

Nervaqus987 said:
Do you mean "How do we raise our Martial Arts rating" or "How do we learn Martial Arts Charms"?

For both of those, Bright is going to be all but completely useless. She's got Martial Arts 1.

Ddraig's "straightforward fighting techniques" will probably help with that. He's probably not going to be teaching us Wing Chun or anything but he's observed dozens of users and there's probably a few things he can teach us just from memory.

Larekko12 · Feb 7, 2014

Maybe some good old british boxing? Marquis of Queenbury rules.

Smuthunter · Feb 7, 2014

Larekko12 said:
Maybe some good old british boxing? Marquis of Queenbury rules.

Points in martial arts without any martial arts charms just indicates general unarmed fighting proficiency without any particular style attached to it. Solars take that and make it shiny and golden. We're probably going to wind up looking like a Dragonball fighter to some extent, except nobody in Dragonball Z ever punched a guy into hell.

Alexander · Feb 7, 2014

Eler0 said:
Hmm, let's see. That means we have (assuming we have school on 5 days out of seven, and sleep Wednesday and Saturday)

If 3+ hours of training count as one day of training, could we spend 9 hours and have it count as 3 days? Because if we can't then that whole calculation sort of fails.

You have school Saturday, the same as the other days. Only Sunday is totally free.

Yes. 3 hours: 1 day. 6 hours: 2 days. 9 hours: 3 days.

Pipeman said:
That aside, do we have school on saturday as well?
And confirmation on whether training more than 3 hours actually helps us would be appreciated.

Yes.
They help when doubled, so that they count as multiple days.

Pipeman said:
Does anyone know when we need to have the Linguistic dot exactly for Asia?
Because if that's not mid-week I'd delay that for more immediately useful stuff.

You will meet her after the week ends.

Pipeman said:
Also, which weekday do we currently have?

Please explain further what you mean.

Nervaqus987 said:
Do you mean "How do we raise our Martial Arts rating" or "How do we learn Martial Arts Charms"?

For both of those, Bright is going to be all but completely useless. She's got Martial Arts 1.

To start learning MA, we could just track down a teacher or else go out into the woods and wrestle bears or something. That'll teach us Martial Arts. To get Martial Arts Styles, like Crystal Chameleon or Celestial Monkey, we'd have to recreate them ourselves from Bright's memory or something. That will be a pain in the ass, though.

For Fist of the Daystar, though, since it's our Native Hero Style, we can learn it like we would any other Charm, so we don't have to endure the agony of recreating an entire Martial Art Style.

Unfortunately, we can get Sidereal Martial Arts without a Sidereal to teach us.

She can still teach you the basic up to Martial Arts 1. The rest, you need to work it out yourself. Bright can show her memories (and considering who she is, she saw a lot of things).

Silver W. King · Feb 7, 2014

Say, are we going to try and visit Raynare in the hospital? Maybe seduce her?

Heaven Canceler · Feb 7, 2014

Alexander said:
"Thanks for telling me Abe-sempai. One last thing: do you know any Japanese Magic Associations, not hostile to Devils, that I can contact for assistance?"

"Uhm..." She assumes a thinking pose. "My family is very old and proud so we kept mostly to ourselves, but we formally belong to the History Compilation Committee, the main Japanese Association that is in change of keeping the supernatural hidden from normal people. There are other minor but influential associations, but the only two I know are the Urakai ("Shadow Organization") and the Keikain House, the premier Onmyōji Clan that protect Kyoto. There is also the Youkai Yakuza but I advise against it, at least until you're strong enough."

Okay, Champione (History C. Committee), Nurarihyon no Mago (Keikain and Kekkaishi (Urakai) are visible here. The Yokai Yakuza is probably a mix of various Anime and manga with Yokai there. In Nurarihyon, the Nura Clan is only one of the great Yokai clans of Japan, so it makes sense that there would be more.

I wonder how far Ukiyoe Town (From Nurarihyon no Mago) and the City where Kekkaishi Plays are away. Not sure whether there is going to be anything added from Champione Canon aside from the organization. Kusanagi is the Kind of idiot suitable for a shonen series like High School DxD, but the killing gods and getting their powers Thing would be weird. Maybe his Authorities would be modified into a Sacred Gear?

There are many possibilities to get allies here, especially if there are other minor Groups or People from various series that have surprising power and are relatively unkown. (I am looking at Natsume Yujinchou here as an example.)

We should probably work together with the History C. Committee first and then work our through the different groups. We are probably going to form our own magical cabal anyway.

@Silver W. King: Great idea, though we should have something to make sure that she doesn't try to kill us and cannot cut us off from the summoning help from the Occult Club. It is possible that other Fallen Angels are already observing her after she got hurt. The fact that aggravated damage can only heal in normal ways should at least avoid her being out of the Hospital unless the Angels have their own Hospital.

P_D · Feb 7, 2014

Silver W. King said:
Say, are we going to try and visit Raynare in the hospital? Maybe seduce her?

While it would be nice to see how she's doing, I'm hesitant to try recruit someone who tried to kill us recently before we have any means of brainwashing some loyalty into her.

Heaven Canceler said:
I wonder how far Ukiyoe Town (From Nurarihyon no Mago) and the City where Kekkaishi Plays are away. Not sure whether there is going to be anything added from Champione Canon aside from the organization. Kusanagi is the Kind of idiot suitable for a shonen series like High School DxD, but the killing gods and getting their powers Thing would be weird. Maybe his Authorities would be modified into a Sacred Gear?

We should probably work together with the History C. Committee first and then work our through the different groups. We are probably going to form our own magical cabal anyway.

I doubt there are anything like campiones here as killings gods is a lot harder and unnecessary in this setting. Also, our magical cabal will be our harem.
Speaking of magic, i wonder if we can teach Asia some to make her less helpless.

Alexander, a question: do you want us to write a complete schedule for each day or is it enough if we just make a rough plan of how many hours we want to do something like Eler0 has already done?
Also, what day is today?

Alexander · Feb 7, 2014

P_D said:
Alexander, a question: do you want us to write a complete schedule for each day or is it enough if we just make a rough plan of how many hours we want to do something like Eler0 has already done?
Also, what day is today?

You can do both: if you do the latter I would have more liberty to organize the timeline. Both are good. ultimately it's a choice of style.

Today is a Monday. Issei had his date with Raynare on Sunday. Currently (time is the end of Bright and Ddraig's explanation on training) the time is 17:30. I forgot about that, so you can the time until midnight to the training time.

Campione doesn't exist in this setting, the HCC here is a sort of umbrella organization that:
-Keep track of all existing supernatural societies, both legal and non-legal.
-Cover all supernatural incidents that can affect society as a large (like, cities being overrun by monsters).

At the head of the HCC there is the Shinto Pantheon, with gods like Amaterasu and Susanoo.

Eler0 · Feb 7, 2014

Okay, finalized plan, I added spending some time with the Club so we get to know them better

112.5 hours because it's 17:30
-18 1 dot Linguistics
-9 1 dot Occult
-18 1 dot Martial Arts
-15 Adamant Skin Technique
-12 Irresistible Salesman Spirit
-3 Spend some time with the Occult research Club
--------------------------------------------
37.5 hours for XP grinding

Or in voting format. I tried adding some Character appropriate stunts, not sure how good they are :-\

[X] buy 1 dot in Linguistics in whatever Language group English is
-[X] No harem is complete without some exotic beauties, but you need a way to speak with them. You want to be prepared for the onslaught of girls that will surely follow.
[X] buy 1 dot in Occult
-[X] You will show Buchou and Akeno-san that you are the best Magician they have ever seen. That should impress them into joining your harem, right? Right?
[X] buy 1 dot of Martial Arts
-[X] Beating up delinquents, what better way is there to impress girls?
[X] learn Irresistible Salesman Spirit
-[X] Taking part in collective games on the internet called "Quests" and convincing people of your ideas being beneficial to them probably counts as training for this, right?
[X] learn Adamant Skin Technique
-[X] Dragons are supposed to have hard scales, so surely Ddraig knows something about taking hits?
[X] Spend 3 hours with the Occult Research Club, just to get to know them better. This is definitely not an excuse to be in proximity of so many good looking girls.
[X] Spend the rest of the time going out looking for Adventure

P_D · Feb 7, 2014

Seems fine to me.
[X]Plan Eler0

kinglugia · Feb 7, 2014

[X] Eler0

John At Dawn · Feb 7, 2014

I think we should spend a bit more time with them than just three hours a week.

Smuthunter · Feb 7, 2014

[X]Plan Eler0

John At DAwn said:
I think we should spend a bit more time with them than just three hours a week.

We have our training time in Occult with them too, unless we decided to learn from Bright rather than Akeno and Rias.

Eler0 · Feb 7, 2014

John At DAwn said:
I think we should spend a bit more time with them than just three hours a week.

I didn't want to cut into our XP grinding time too much and risk not getting the XP for our Charms, because we have no idea how fast we'll gain XP. We also spend 9 hours with Akeno.

overmind · Feb 7, 2014

[X] Eler0

protoss16 · Feb 7, 2014

[X] Eler0

John At Dawn · Feb 7, 2014

Ah, right. Time with Akeno.
...

[X] Eler0

BobTheNinja · Feb 7, 2014

[X] Eler0

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