Sneaking His Way into the Multiverse (RWBY Jaune, WC-lite mechanics)

[iamnuff]

Vento. Basic explanation: She magic. Hate her = instant loss.
A bit more: Those who hold hostility towards Vento will be robbed of air in their lungs. Theorized by characters in the novel to have different levels severity, but by the point where they regard her as 'the enemy', they have hit the max level where the air is just barely enough to keep them alive.
Guesses on how Jaune and Tattletale survived their encounter.

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I looked her up. Goddamn her whole gimmick is stupid.
Not because of how her magic works, but the lore behind it.

Her bullshit is 'divine punishment' that follows the logic of 'no-one should bare malice towards god'
Except A: this placed herself in the position of God, which is immensely blasphemous, just right off the bat.
Then there's the fact that she's symbolically attuning herself to Jesus by...carrying the hammer that was used to nail him to the cross, and piercing her body with metal. The piercings thing is cool. It reminds me of Desden Files street-sympathy magic. Or maybe Constantine.

But the hammer... B: That's not the hammer. Fuck off. It's nothing like the hammer. It would have been a regular workman's/carpenter's hammer. Probably made of stone or copper. Not some absurd thorned-spiral as big as a man that looks like a fucking Dark Souls Boss Weapon.
There's no way they would have had something that looked like that just laying around for when jesus showed up, and there's no way you could drive a nail into wood with that, much less through a person.
(I get that she's not saying that this is the original hammer, but as a stand-in it should at least resemble the sort of hammer that might plausibly have been used to crucify Christ)
Also, C: Someone did attack Jesus after he was nailed to the cross. It was a whole big thing, when a Roman Legionnaire stabbed him in the chest with a spear as an act of mercy.

I'm not exactly intensely catholic or anything myself, (I range from agnostic to atheist) but her entire gimmick just screams 'This bitch doesn't know anything about Christianity at all'
Like, actually get smote by lightning you fucking poser.

Also, if your setting has a magic spell calling on the inviolability of Christ to prevent people from attacking you, it should instantly fail if you deliberately provoke people in order to make them trigger it against their will.
You're not going to fool God Almighty with your cheap-ass loopholes, and you're not going to impress Him by trying to be a smart-arse about it.

 

[Faralis]

That's not the hammer

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Hey, that would mean using the wikipedia for a search about hammers. That would mean the author would need to research! And not learnt from other mangas and LN he read some time ago! ^^

 

[Topast]

I looked her up. Goddamn her whole gimmick is stupid.
Not because of how her magic works, but the lore behind it.

Her bullshit is 'divine punishment' that follows the logic of 'no-one should bare malice towards god'
Except A: this placed herself in the position of God, which is immensely blasphemous, just right off the bat.
Then there's the fact that she's symbolically attuning herself to Jesus by...carrying the hammer that was used to nail him to the cross, and piercing her body with metal. The piercings thing is cool. It reminds me of Desden Files street-sympathy magic. Or maybe Constantine.

But the hammer... B: That's not the hammer. Fuck off. It's nothing like the hammer. It would have been a regular workman's/carpenter's hammer. Probably made of stone or copper. Not some absurd thorned-spiral as big as a man that looks like a fucking Dark Souls Boss Weapon.
There's no way they would have had something that looked like that just laying around for when jesus showed up, and there's no way you could drive a nail into wood with that, much less through a person.
(I get that she's not saying that this is the original hammer, but as a stand-in it should at least resemble the sort of hammer that might plausibly have been used to crucify Christ)
Also, C: Someone did attack Jesus after he was nailed to the cross. It was a whole big thing, when a Roman Legionnaire stabbed him in the chest with a spear as an act of mercy.

I'm not exactly intensely catholic or anything myself, (I range from agnostic to atheist) but her entire gimmick just screams 'This bitch doesn't know anything about Christianity at all'
Like, actually get smote by lightning you fucking poser.

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It's idol theory it's not based based around her using the hammer and the nails that were used but using things meant to represent them. Through that connection she has made a equivalence of her being like jesus who in turn is considered god so her spell punishes all human malice cause it is directed at god by way of that connection. WIth her needling and pissing people off working by way of the same logic how Tattletales counter worked, there was no malice involved. Which is also how jesus getting stabbed worked, it wasn't malice it was mercy as the spell targets malice which is a pretty hard feeling to avoid when you attack someone. Honestly how you can both bring it up first and then procceed to completly ignore it in your rand is just plain weird.

 

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I wonder if Tattletale just considers the girl to be a lesser and not worth being an enemy. An immense ego is a blessing and a curse when it comes to mental magics

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Tattletale Escanor'd herself.

You're not going to fool God Almighty with your cheap-ass loopholes, and you're not going to impress Him by trying to be a smart-arse about it.

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There's more than a few Jewish sects that disagree.

Rules-lawyering the Talmud is their whole thing, so...

 

[iamnuff]

There's more than a few Jewish sects that disagree.

Rules-lawyering the Talmud is their whole thing, so...

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Did they get smote for it?

 

[Kenloch]

Did they get smote for it?

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My understanding of the logic of it goes something like-

"The Lord's Law is Perfect.
Therefore, when one finds a Loophole in The Law,
That does not mean The Law is flawed,
It means the Loophole is supposed to be there."

 

[2 Hot Crown Subdues the Sinful]

My understanding of the logic of it goes something like-

"The Lord's Law is Perfect.
Therefore, when one finds a Loophole in The Law,
That does not mean The Law is flawed,
It means the Loophole is supposed to be there."

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"Married women cannot go out with their head uncovered.", so they wear wigs that make them look better than their normal hair wood. Completely missing the point of modesty.

Did they get smote for it?

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Yes, the entirety of their history "that one time they pissed off YHVH & got punished"> Everyone thinks Old Testament God was like super angry or something, but it was that people just could not stop fucking up.

 

[alethiophile]

Note that this is not a thread about the history of Judaism.

 

[Faralis]

Note that this is not a thread about the history of Judaism.

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TBH I can see Tattletale pulling that theme from her ass just to confuse poor Jaune for reasons!

Those two are the most disastrous pair that ever traveled teh multiverse...