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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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Man, it is nice to see well trained soldiers doing their job. And I include OL in that. He picked his idols and methods very early in this story, and trained himself in those ways well.

If what we seen in the past few arcs is representative of how the Orange Lantern Corps is training their recruits, I think they're going to be more SWAT/secret agent in their manner of operation. Meet up with the local gov, cooperate as much as is reasonable, and then execute the plan with precision. By the book, just as the Controllers want it done.

It contrasts favorably to how the GL Corps does it, which is much more lone sheriff in the Wild West style. Sweep into town only when they decide its necessary to put out fires and crack heads, maybe leave a firm warning behind them of the way out. Building a aura of awe and respect, just as the Guardians will it.

Makes me wonder how the other Corps will design their modus operandi. The indigo's seem to work off of a missionary method, working in spite and detatched from any government or local authority. Which seems ok, but without organisation and oversight it seems like their efforts would be inefficient and patchy. Then again, power rings can overcome a lot of inefficentcies. Blues would seem to fall into the same camp, but more along the disaster relief and recovery aid efforts. Neither of these really speak to any method of law enforcement though. Indigo varying between non lethal and instantly lethal?

Reds would be more avengers/ crusaders, hunting out crimes and injustice that fall under specific interests, being one man "Punisher"-type wecking balls. But it would be cool to see a "Joan of Arc" style revolutionary, uniting a group under the auspices of anger to overthrow corrupt rulers.

I wonder what a productive, positive(?) influence Yellow or Violet Corps would be like?

Man, I went off on a wide tangent there. Sorry about that. One of the reasons I love this story is that it asks hard questions that could never have been answered in the comics. And its great to see the pay off here in the past few arcs.
 
Oglymogly said:
Man, it is nice to see well trained soldiers doing their job. And I include OL in that. He picked his idols and methods very early in this story, and trained himself in those ways well.

If what we seen in the past few arcs is representative of how the Orange Lantern Corps is training their recruits, I think they're going to be more SWAT/secret agent in their manner of operation. Meet up with the local gov, cooperate as much as is reasonable, and then execute the plan with precision. By the book, just as the Controllers want it done.

It contrasts favorably to how the GL Corps does it, which is much more lone sheriff in the Wild West style. Sweep into town only when they decide its necessary to put out fires and crack heads, maybe leave a firm warning behind them of the way out. Building a aura of awe and respect, just as the Guardians will it.

Makes me wonder how the other Corps will design their modus operandi. The indigo's seem to work off of a missionary method, working in spite and detatched from any government or local authority. Which seems ok, but without organisation and oversight it seems like their efforts would be inefficient and patchy. Then again, power rings can overcome a lot of inefficentcies. Blues would seem to fall into the same camp, but more along the disaster relief and recovery aid efforts. Neither of these really speak to any method of law enforcement though. Indigo varying between non lethal and instantly lethal?

Reds would be more avengers/ crusaders, hunting out crimes and injustice that fall under specific interests, being one man "Punisher"-type wecking balls. But it would be cool to see a "Joan of Arc" style revolutionary, uniting a group under the auspices of anger to overthrow corrupt rulers.

I wonder what a productive, positive(?) influence Yellow or Violet Corps would be like?

Man, I went off on a wide tangent there. Sorry about that. One of the reasons I love this story is that it asks hard questions that could never have been answered in the comics. And its great to see the pay off here in the past few arcs.
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You make a very good point. Maybe Yellow Corps could be like a torturer/interrogator kind of thing for anyone who can resist branding. Drawing up a blank on Violet.
 
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should that be "and erase"?
Maybe "appears to be dead"? But its probably fine as is.
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I stride forwards in the temple behind the soldiers.
Should be 'into' unless they're already inside the temple proper?
...powerful enough to punch through he weak shield spell.
Should be 'the' or 'his', depending on preference.
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Thank you, corrected.
Who's the second speaker here? The Thanagarian commander?
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Yes.
I retaliate with pinpoint destructive pulses...
Not 'destruction pulse', or is that the specific command?
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I'm not that precise in my use of terminology.
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TBH for named aliens earth is a place where you get rep for surviving: 'I went toe-to-toe with superman' type rep
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Oglymogly said:
I wonder what a productive, positive(?) influence Yellow or Violet Corps would be like?
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Yellow seems to me like the unit tactics Corps, deploying in pairs or flights of four, and regularly training in platoon-level and company-level actions, in the name of solving problems quickly and overwhelmingly. Essentially they are the "shock and awe" Corps.

Violet might go in for more community- and nation-building, with embedded agents building community structures (and maybe sticking around to start a family).
 
Oglymogly said:
I wonder what a productive, positive(?) influence Yellow or Violet Corps would be like?
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For Yellow, disaster prevention.

Assuming you're using the version where they power up on ambient fear, that means that the worse the situation is, the more powerful they are.

Their ideal scenario is one in which everyone around them is scared shitless, so if you were trying to design a productive version of a YLC, they'd be the most efficient choice to deal with planets facing extinction-level events.
 
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Their ideal scenario is one in which everyone around them is scared shitless, so if you were trying to design a productive version of a YLC, they'd be the most efficient choice to deal with planets facing extinction-level events.
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Of course, you'd have to cultivate an image of being associated with calamitous events, or else yellow flight trails will become a sign of hope which is... rather the opposite of what would be ideal operating conditions for a Yellow Lantern.

"If these guys show up, you're well and truly screwed."
 
Old Knife said:
Is Xor the Sentient war moon/space station thingy?
What ever happened to that thing anyway?
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No, that's Ranx. He's currently operating as a base of operations for the OLC. I don't remember exactly where, but possibly Vega.

Xor is the character who would have been known as Konvikt except for OL putting him on what amounts to a work-release program.
 
Mr Zoat said:
What could go wrong? Ring, scan the soldiers for Man-Hawk mutations.
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Invocation to Murphey, check.

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"Orange Lantern to ship. Mission accomplished."
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The US's own personal version of the Invocation to Murphy since the Iraq War, check.

And both in the same post no less!
...Is he intentionally trying to curse Thanar after having seen what racist, xenophobic, imperialistic, jingoistic douchebags their current government is firsthand?

Unrelated, the story only thread?

Have you considered posting the finished episodes there in one complete post each instead of each daily part in its own post?

Make it easier to read, and to see the full word count of the story.
 
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The US's own personal version of the Invocation to Murphy since the Iraq War, check.
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I.. think I can talk about this. The original banner referred not to the Iraq War in general, but to the ship's tour of duty, which had indeed finished.
Unrelated, the story only thread?

Have you considered posting the finished episodes there in one complete post each instead of each daily part in its own post?

Make it easier to read, and to see the full word count of the story.
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The Story Only thread isn't up to date anyway. I'm.. getting there.
 
Heard a rumor that Mr. Mind is supposed to play a somewhat big part in an upcoming YJ event. I wonder if that's true.

....Annnnd now I'm imagine Sunny Sparkle being used to force villain rehabilitation.
 
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Heard a rumor that Mr. Mind is supposed to play a somewhat big part in an upcoming YJ event. I wonder if that's true.

....Annnnd now I'm imagine Sunny Sparkle being used to force villain rehabilitation.
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How so? Don't think she'd be all that useful?
 
Wing and Dagger (part 21)
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    Ms Parker glares at the gormlessly grinning man inside the interrogation room. "Who is he?"

    Once the commander was convinced that my brand worked as I claimed, he contacted Mr Pul and received a sealed list of questions to pass on to his interrogators. Having reviewed his soldiers' records of events in the temple he didn't feel quite right about throwing me out, so I returned the courtesy by only staying for the parts which related to my own interests. Wouldn't want them to think I was reporting everything to Hyathis, and I hope that voluntarily keeping myself ignorant will engender a little more cooperation.

    "His name is Kartez. He's Thasaro's senior.. 'field priest'. Head of operations. The Blessed One was new, but it was the only one they've been able to.. make?" She nods distractedly. "They use a cell structure. He only knows a few names and faces, but he believes that there are small communities of Seven Devil worshippers throughout Thanagar Empire space. I didn't stay for the details; I'm sure that Imperial Intelligence would rather deal with the Empire's messes in private."

    "This trip-." She shakes her head again, then turns to face me. "It's left me more disconnected and confused than I was on Earth."

    "The memories?"

    "Thanagar… In my day, this sort of… Deceit…" She takes a breath. "We risked everything to rise up against the Seven Devils. Wide scale deceit, enslaving.. aliens…"

    "Didn't happen in your day?"

    "The priests lied to us, so we were honest with one another. The Devils used us as weapons in their wars, so we only fought if we had to. I -Chay-ara- fought in two wars against species who still saw us as the servants of the Seven Devils. We didn't fight aggressive wars at all."

    "Do you really think being honest about the existence of the Seven Devils is a good idea? It would only take a small disaffected group of citizens-."

    "They shouldn't be letting our people live in conditions like that. Why would anyone build a city like that?"

    "It wasn't there in your day?"

    "There was.. probably a town there. Thanagarians have always liked mountaintops. We didn't.. bury our underclass. We didn't even really.. have one."

    "How did that work?"

    "We were a theocracy. Everyone served the Devils." She snorts quietly. "And that ethos of service lasted longer than the beings we served. And they didn't care enough about us as individuals to bother differentiating." She turns away, looking around the prisoner holding area. "I've been an American for three lifetimes. I want to blame the military take-over that happened after the Equality Plague for the stratification, but Bleez told me that it's actually gotten less bad since then. Anyone can join the military now, and that used to be class-restricted." She slumps. "We used to be so hopeful."

    "Now that you have full access to Chay-ara's memories, have you considered writing a biography?"

    "Charlie's been on at me about doing that. I said that we should prioritise the lives we lived in places on Earth no one else wrote about. Now I think I should write about Thanagar." She shakes her head. "Not that I think their government would let a book like that be published."

    "Heh, yeah, the government banning it would totally stop people reading it." I shake my head. "Seven thousand years after Seven Devil worship was banned people are still doing it. I wouldn't overestimate the Thanagarian government's ability to enforce that sort of ban. Particularly if.. someone who could move around without a ship was doing the distribution."

    "That could work. It'll still take me a couple of years to write it… And I can't reference anything. If there were any other records from that era, Thanagar's government would have destroyed them."

    "Ex.. cept the records of the Green Lantern Corps."

    Her eyes widen slightly. "That.. isn't a bad idea. If I could convince them to share them."

    "There aren't any general rules against sharing unclassified historical records. In fact, there are examples of Green Lanterns sharing accurate historical data with researchers which have been ruled 'appropriate' when governments complained to the Guardians about it. We can stop off on Staphis on the way back if you're interested."

    She nods distractedly.

    Okay, it's a little hard to work out what effect this will have on Thanagarian foreign policy. Even if they take the temples apart for their metal content that won't add that much raw material to their building effort. How will it affect their military campaign? They must know that there's no Nth metal to be found on the worlds neighbouring theirs. They've already got more systems than they know what to do with. Certainly more habitable worlds than they've been able to fully settle. The only external threat is Hyathis and she's not exactly imminent, there's no casus belli…

    Internally? Ordinarily I'd say that the opportunity to suppress one group of internal dissenters might spill over onto others not associated with the original justification. But the High Council already rules without external checks on their power. They only really need to justify things…

    The old colonies. The High Council controls Thanagar, anything with 'Imperial' in the name and the new colonies. They don't control the old colonies in the same way. If you were building a cult, you'd want to set it up in a place that wasn't a police state. Somewhere that prided itself on not having military rule. And if.. there are significant cult communities on any of those worlds…

    "Excuse me."

    I stride across the detention area and into the attached briefing room. Bleez turns away from the muted live feed as she hears me walk in.

    "Is now a good time for me to ask for a ride home?"

    "Possibly. I'll have to talk to Mister Pul, but I doubt they're going to want external observers for the next bit. What religions do the old colonies practise?"

    "None, really? I think the biggest religion is the Church of the One. And that got unbanned, like, thirty years ago. And all the native religions." She frowns as she tries to work out what my angle is. "We don't worship the Seven Devils, if that's what you're talking about."

    "I'm a little concerned that the High Council might try and use this as an excuse to reduce colonial autonomy. It might be a good idea for you to encourage your mother to start taking action ahead of a government purge."

    "Oh. Ah, yeah, they.. might. Any idea what to look for?"

    "Isolationist communities. Places with little external contact. Anywhere with this symbol." I generate a construct image of the image tattooed onto the bodies of all of the cultists: a triangle on a circle with seven points radiating from it. "If no one's heard anything and you haven't seen any mutants then they're keeping things quiet. The majority of members might not even realise what they're part of."

    "Right… Yeah…"

    "What's the Religious Education component of your school curriculum like?"

    "There isn't one, really. Education is controlled by individual principalities, there isn't any sort of general rule."

    "You might want to get on that as well."

    "Yeah." She walks past me and out of the briefing room. I follow her. "But I'm not exactly looking forward to living with Mother again."

    "Noblesse oblige." I look around as several interrogators leave the cells. "Do you know what they're going to do with the-?"

    There are flashes of light from the cells as the prisoners are shot dead.
     
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    The old colonies. The High Council controls Thanagar, anything with 'Imperial' in the name and the new colonies. They don't control the old colonies in the same way. If you were building a cult, you'd want to set it up in a place that wasn't a police state. Somewhere that prided itself on not having military rule. And if.. there are significant cult communities on any of those worlds…
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    Oh, that's worrying.

    What religions to the old colonies practice?"
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    What religions do the old colonies practice?"

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    Welp. Not subtle, are they?
     
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    I don't think OL of all people will have much a problem with this. And if he does, someone needs to stamp a certain word into his forehead.
     
    Grimnar said:
    I don't think OL of all people will have much a problem with this. And if he does, someone needs to stamp a certain word into his forehead.
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    He certainly wouldn't have a problem with executions per se, but killing a potentially useful intelligence asset seems a little short-sighted.
     
    Vaermina said:
    And probably the Kryptonian doomsday vault in orbit around Earth.
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    Which one? This seems like something Kryptonians might not have known about since it happened too far away and too far back for them to care. If no one wrote about it in detail, the vault wouldn't have the information most likely simply because it's not considered important.
     
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